D4H's 2017 NFL Draft Review (Best Picks, Best Drafts, and Predictions)

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#126
SolidRockGolf said:
No one believes it was a joke! You just had 10 days to think of a way to spin it after we beat FL and GA. You knew that you screwed up and wanted to figure out a way to make it look like you planned it.... which is just dumb and immature.

It was nothing but an excuse.

You look for recognition in likes, thread length and who believes you. You need to find out what life is really about so you can be more fulfilled. This looking to be someone special on a forum isn't working and seems desperate. It's like watching a train wreck. I know I give you hard time but it's because you try to pass opinions as fact, come off as full ego, want attention, are hypocritical, and don't admit you mistakes.

Your either a troll or you want attention badly. Neither is done by a sane person but by someone who has issues.

Just remember the only person you fool is yourself. It's like you start believing your lies and twisted thoughts.
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Ok. Don't care what you think. Go ahead homeboy.
 
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#127
Another sleeper to keep an eye on is WR Kenny Golladay 3rd round pick of the Detroit Lions.

Great size and speed athlete who was productive in the MAC. I got to him late in the process and think he can develop into a really good wide receiver.

Lions in general had a very strong draft. Don't be surprised if they're a contender for the super bowl in the NFC a few years from now. I absolutely loved their picks of:

LB Jarrad Davis
CB Teez Tabor
WR Kenny Golladay
LB Jalen Reeves-Maybin
QB Brad Kaaya

Once they move on from Matt Stafford and start Brad Kaaya, look for the Lions to be a force in the NFC.
 
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#128
Hey guys. Check out my updates to the first post in this thread. It includes a more stream lined list of the elite players from this draft by position. As well as my final rankings of the top 50 players overall in this draft. For those too lazy to go back to the first page, here it goes:

Elite Players in 2017 NFL Draft (by position)

Quarterback
1. Joshua Dobbs (Steelers) – All-Pro Talent
2. Brad Kaaya (Lions) – Pro Bowl Talent

Running Backs
1. Alvin Kamara (Saints) – All-Pro Talent
2. James Conner (Steelers) – Pro Bowl Talent
3. Joe Mixon (Bengals) – Pro Bowl Talent
4. Christian McCaffrey (Panthers) – Pro Bowl Talent
5. Matt Breida (49ers) – Pro Bowl Talent
6. Jamaal Williams (Packers) – Pro Bowl Talent
7. Samaje Perine (Redskins) – Pro Bowl Talent

Wide Receivers
1. Corey Davis (Titans) – All-Pro Talent
2. JuJu Smith-Schuster (Steelers) – Pro Bowl Talent
3. Kenny Golladay (Lions) – Pro Bowl Talent
4. Zay Jones (Bills) – Pro Bowl Talent
5. Amara Darboh (Seahawks) – Pro Bowl Talent
6. Chad Williams (Cardinals) – Pro Bowl Talent

Tight Ends
1. Evan Engram (Giants) – All-Pro Talent
2. David Njoku (Browns) – Pro Bowl Talent
3. Gerald Everett (Rams) – Pro Bowl Talent
4. Jonnu Smith (Titans) – Pro Bowl Talent
5. Jake Butt (Broncos) – Pro Bowl Talent

Offensive Line
1. Taylor Moton (Panthers) – Pro Bowl Talent
2. Jordan Morgan (Bears) – Pro Bowl Talent

Edge Rushers
1. Myles Garrett (Browns) – All-Pro Talent
2. Charles Harris (Dolphins) – Pro Bowl Talent
3. Derek Rivers (Patriots) – Pro Bowl Talent
4. TJ Watt (Steelers) – Pro Bowl Talent
5. Tarell Basham (Colts) – Pro Bowl Talent
6. Tyus Bowser (Ravens) – Pro Bowl Talent

Defensive Lineman
1. Solomon Thomas (49ers) – All-Pro Talent
2. Larry Ogunjobi (Browns) – Pro Bowl Talent
3. Eddie Vanderdoes (Raiders) – Pro Bowl Talent

Linebackers
1. Haason Reddick (Cardinals) – All-Pro Talent
2. Jarrad Davis (Lions) – All-Pro Talent

Cornerbacks
1. Cameron Sutton (Steelers) – All-Pro Talent
2. Marlon Humphrey (Ravens) – Pro Bowl Talent
3. Jourdan Lewis (Cowboys) – Pro Bowl Talent
4. Teez Tabor (Lions) – Pro Bowl Talent
5. Ahkello Witherspoon (49ers) – Pro Bowl Talent
6. Sojourn Shelton (Cardinals) – Pro Bowl Talent
7. Damontae Kazee (Falcons) – Pro Bowl Talent
8. Chidobe Awuzie (Cowboys) – Pro Bowl Talent
9. Quincy Wilson (Colts) – Pro Bowl Talent

Safeties
1. Marcus Maye (Jets) – All-Pro Talent
2. Jamal Adams (Jets) – All-Pro Talent
3. Marcus Williams (Saints) – All-Pro Talent
4. John Johnson (Rams) – Pro Bowl Talent
5. Malik Hooker (Colts) – Pro Bowl Talent
6. Budda Baker (Cardinals) – Pro Bowl Talent
7. Justin Evans (Buccaneers) – Pro Bowl Talent
8. Xavier Woods (Cowboys) – Pro Bowl Talent
9. Eddie Jackson (Bears) – Pro Bowl Talent

Top 50 Players Overall
1. QB Joshua Dobbs (Steelers)
2. WR Corey Davis (Titans)
3. DE Myles Garrett (Browns)
4. CB Cameron Sutton (Steelers)
5. DL Solomon Thomas (49ers)
6. RB Alvin Kamara (Saints)
7. LB Haason Reddick (Cardinals)
8. LB Jarrad Davis (Lions)
9. TE Evan Engram (Giants)
10. DE Charles Harris (Dolphins)
11. S Marcus Maye (Jets)
12. S Jamal Adams (Jets)
13. S Marcus Williams (Saints)
14. OLB Derek Rivers (Patriots)
15. RB James Conner (Steelers)
16. QB Brad Kaaya (Lions)
17. RB Joe Mixon (Bengals)
18. RB Christian McCaffrey (Panthers)
19. S John Johnson (Rams)
20. S Malik Hooker (Colts)
21. DE Tarell Basham (Colts)
22. OLB TJ Watt (Steelers)
23. OLB Tyus Bowser (Ravens)
24. WR JuJu Smith-Schuster (Steelers)
25. CB Marlon Humphrey (Ravens)
26. CB Jourdan Lewis (Cowboys)
27. WR Kenny Golladay (Lions)
28. WR Zay Jones (Bills)
29. TE David Njoku (Browns)
30. WR Amara Darboh (Seahawks)
31. CB Teez Tabor (Lions)
32. S Budda Baker (Cardinals)
33. RB Matt Breida (49ers)
34. CB Ahkello Witherspoon (49ers)
35. RB Jamaal Williams (Packers)
36. RB Samaje Perine (Redskins)
37. TE Gerald Everett (Rams)
38. CB Sojourn Shelton (Cardinals)
39. S Justin Evans (Buccaneers)
40. S Xavier Woods (Cowboys)
41. CB Damontae Kazee (Falcons)
42. CB Chidobe Awuzie (Cowboys)
43. CB Quincy Wilson (Colts)
44. TE Jonnu Smith (Titans)
45. DT Larry Ogunjobi (Browns)
46. S Eddie Jackson (Bears)
47. WR Chad Williams (Cardinals)
48. TE Jake Butt (Broncos)
49. OT Taylor Moton (Panthers)
50. DT Eddie Vanderdoes (Raiders)
 
#133
#133
Dr. Manhattan said:
lol incredible
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Not really. This is a very deep and talent class. Maybe the deepest and most talented in 20 years. In a more typical draft class Barnett would have been in the 25-35 range. He should still have a very good career. He just got pushed down by an abnormal amount of elite players in this year's draft.
 
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I agree about Engram for the giants. I think we got the best tight end in the draft and with Odell,Shepherd, and Marshall out there it'll give him many opportunities to catch passes
 
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#139
Berry4Heisman14 said:
I agree about Engram for the giants. I think we got the best tight end in the draft and with Odell,Shepherd, and Marshall out there it'll give him many opportunities to catch passes
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Yep. That offense will be something special. Yall just need to improve along the offense line. If that happens, the Giants will break scoring records.

That receiving corp is just filthy.
 
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#140
The Lions should move on from Matt Stafford and start brad Kaaya, a 6th round pick.

You don't even troll well anymore.
 
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#141
zjcvols said:
The Lions should move on from Matt Stafford and start brad Kaaya, a 6th round pick.

You don't even troll well anymore.
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Matt Stafford has a 8 year body of work already and he hasn't proven himself to be the type of elite QB that can lead a team to a super bowl. Maybe he can now with this epic talent infusion from the 2017 draft. However, I prefer Brad Kaaya's long term potential. He's a Matt Ryan type QB. And Matt Ryan has proven he's the type of QB that can lead a team to the super bowl.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Matt Stafford has a 8 year body of work already and he hasn't proven himself to be the type of elite QB that can lead a team to a super bowl. Maybe he can now with this epic talent infusion from the 2017 draft. However, I prefer Brad Kaaya's long term potential. He's a Matt Ryan type QB. And Matt Ryan has proven he's the type of QB that can lead a team to the super bowl.
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Truth. When I look at the rest of that Lions roster I think "that's a super bowl team" that Stafford has drug down.
 
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volfanngatorland said:
Truth. When I look at the rest of that Lions roster I think "that's a super bowl team" that Stafford has drug down.
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Their roster is a lot more talented now than it was a year ago. Jarrad Davis and Teez Tabor are immediate impact players on defense. Kenny Golladay is an athletic big play WR. Stafford has weapons on offense and a good defense. If he's actually an elite QB they should be a super bowl contender this upcoming season.

Maybe this is the year he finally puts it together.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Their roster is a lot more talented now than it was a year ago. Jarrad Davis and Teez Tabor are immediate impact players on defense. Kenny Golladay is an athletic big play WR. Stafford has weapons on offense and a good defense. If he's actually an elite QB they should be a super bowl contender this upcoming season.

Maybe this is the year he finally puts it together.
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I completely agree. If there was a threesome of draft picks that could take a borderline playoff team to super bowl contender it would definitely be Teez Tabor, Jarad Davis, and Kenny Golladay.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Matt Stafford has a 8 year body of work already and he hasn't proven himself to be the type of elite QB that can lead a team to a super bowl. Maybe he can now with this epic talent infusion from the 2017 draft. However, I prefer Brad Kaaya's long term potential. He's a Matt Ryan type QB. And Matt Ryan has proven he's the type of QB that can lead a team to the super bowl.
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Stafford is the only reason why the Lions are as good as they are.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Matt Stafford has a 8 year body of work already and he hasn't proven himself to be the type of elite QB that can lead a team to a super bowl. Maybe he can now with this epic talent infusion from the 2017 draft. However, I prefer Brad Kaaya's long term potential. He's a Matt Ryan type QB. And Matt Ryan has proven he's the type of QB that can lead a team to the super bowl.
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Again, you are just not even trolling well anymore. It's kinda sad.
 
#148
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Matt Stafford has a 8 year body of work already and he hasn't proven himself to be the type of elite QB that can lead a team to a super bowl. Maybe he can now with this epic talent infusion from the 2017 draft. However, I prefer Brad Kaaya's long term potential. He's a Matt Ryan type QB. And Matt Ryan has proven he's the type of QB that can lead a team to the super bowl.
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So Kaaya, a 6th rounder is as good as a former Top 3 overall pick?

Makes sense
 
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