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So just to be clear, when you say all time greats. Are you saying 20-30 years from now we will be talking about Dobbs in the same sentence as Montana, Brady and Manning? Davis in the same breath as Rice, Sharpe, Largent, Ownes, Moss and Calvin Johnson? And lastly, will we be mentioning Garrett along the likes of White, Smith and Watt?

It is going to be a minute for him to respond to this, he is quickly looking for all these players Wikipedia pages to learn who they are and then trying to find 30 second YouTube highlights
 
What? Tape is the only thing that tells us how good a player is. As the Joey Bosa sack tape showed, you can get 10 sacks in a season and 5 of them can be lucky.

Watching tape is the only way to tell who can play and who can't. The stat sheet doesn't tell you whether a guy is making plays or just getting lucky.

Except every player gets lucky, as you describe it. you can't just take away from one player.
 
So just to be clear, when you say all time greats. Are you saying 20-30 years from now we will be talking about Dobbs in the same sentence as Montana, Brady and Manning? Davis in the same breath as Rice, Sharpe, Largent, Ownes, Moss and Calvin Johnson? And lastly, will we be mentioning Garrett along the likes of White, Smith and Watt?

Yes.

(1) Josh Dobbs will win at least 3 super bowls and set many passing/rushing records in the NFL. He will go down as the best dual threat QB in NFL history.

(2) Corey Davis will go down as one of the greatest WRs in NFL history. He will finish top 5 all-time in receiving yards and TDs.

(3) Myles Garrett will go down as one of the best pass rushers in NFL history. He will also be top 5 in sacks.
 
"I don't make excuses. Here's an excuse."

The truth is not an excuse. An excuse is for example saying Dak Prescott's success as a rookie can be attributed mainly to his supporting cast and not his greatness. That is an excuse. This was simply a FACT.
 
The truth is not an excuse. An excuse is for example saying Dak Prescott's success as a rookie can be attributed mainly to his supporting cast and not his greatness. That is an excuse. This was simply a FACT.

It's always wonderful to claim something is "fact" when you are the only person who can vouch for its validity. Your own posting history makes it impossible to believe you. Even if you meant it as a joke, and were going to admit as much before getting banned, the only reasonable thing to do was say "My bad; shouldn't have gone there." Because even if it was a joke, it was a bad joke.
 
I don't watch every game a prospect plays. I only watch a select number of games and try to identify traits that can translate to the next level. I don't care if Myles Garrett did not dominate every game he played in college. I don't care if he didn't dominate in the SEC.

How do you decide which games to watch? Why not watch every game, or at least as many games as you possibly can? Do you make an effort to watch tape of a prospect's poorer performances so you can more easily identify the flaws in his game?
 
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It's always wonderful to claim something is "fact" when you are the only person who can vouch for its validity. Your own posting history makes it impossible to believe you. Even if you meant it as a joke, and were going to admit as much before getting banned, the only reasonable thing to do was say "My bad; shouldn't have gone there." Because even if it was a joke, it was a bad joke.

I don't care what's funny or not funny to you. I thought it was hilarious cause I sparked a long thread that got all of you thinking I turned on Dobbs.

My history of posting on here should have made the joke obvious. In fact if you read back over that thread several people thought I was intentionally trolling. I was kinda mad at the time that they figured it out so quickly. Its also probably why Freak banned me as well. The troll attempt that day was too obvious.

If I was this guy who just turns on Dobbs at the first sight of him struggling (as some have tried to imply), wouldn't I have turned on him many other times? Shouldn't I have turned on him after South Carolina? Or even App State to open the year?

It would have been funny if Freak didn't ban me and fuel this fraudlent idea I somehow turned on Dobbs and left the site. That couldn't be farther from the truth.
 
I don't care what's funny or not funny to you. I thought it was hilarious cause I sparked a long thread that got all of you thinking I turned on Dobbs.

My history of posting on here should have made the joke obvious. In fact if you read back over that thread several people thought I was intentionally trolling. I was kinda mad at the time that they figured it out so quickly. Its also probably why Freak banned me as well. The troll attempt that day was too obvious.

If I was this guy who just turns on Dobbs at the first sight of him struggling (as some have tried to imply), wouldn't I have turned on him many other times? Shouldn't I have turned on him after South Carolina? Or even App State to open the year?

It would have been funny if Freak didn't ban me and fuel this fraudlent idea I somehow turned on Dobbs and left the site. That couldn't be farther from the truth.

For someone who doesn't make excuses, you sure do a lot of excuse-making.
 
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I don't care what's funny or not funny to you. I thought it was hilarious cause I sparked a long thread that got all of you thinking I turned on Dobbs.

My history of posting on here should have made the joke obvious. In fact if you read back over that thread several people thought I was intentionally trolling. I was kinda mad at the time that they figured it out so quickly. Its also probably why Freak banned me as well. The troll attempt that day was too obvious.

If I was this guy who just turns on Dobbs at the first sight of him struggling (as some have tried to imply), wouldn't I have turned on him many other times? Shouldn't I have turned on him after South Carolina? Or even App State to open the year?

It would have been funny if Freak didn't ban me and fuel this fraudlent idea I somehow turned on Dobbs and left the site. That couldn't be farther from the truth.

This is why nobody takes you seriously.
 
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Yes.

(1) Josh Dobbs will win at least 3 super bowls and set many passing/rushing records in the NFL. He will go down as the best dual threat QB in NFL history.

(2) Corey Davis will go down as one of the greatest WRs in NFL history. He will finish top 5 all-time in receiving yards and TDs.

(3) Myles Garrett will go down as one of the best pass rushers in NFL history. He will also be top 5 in sacks.

Troll job is full on at this point. At least you don't try to mask it.
 
The truth is not an excuse. An excuse is for example saying Dak Prescott's success as a rookie can be attributed mainly to his supporting cast and not his greatness. That is an excuse. This was simply a FACT.

Good God, not only did you make excuses, you're making excuses as to why your excuses aren't excuses.
 
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Yes.

(1) Josh Dobbs will win at least 3 super bowls and set many passing/rushing records in the NFL. He will go down as the best dual threat QB in NFL history.

(2) Corey Davis will go down as one of the greatest WRs in NFL history. He will finish top 5 all-time in receiving yards and TDs.

(3) Myles Garrett will go down as one of the best pass rushers in NFL history. He will also be top 5 in sacks.

Troll job is full on at this point. At least you don't try to mask it.

Put the phone up and pay attention in class. Algebra 1 final exam is Wednesday.
 
I don't care what's funny or not funny to you. I thought it was hilarious cause I sparked a long thread that got all of you thinking I turned on Dobbs.

My history of posting on here should have made the joke obvious. In fact if you read back over that thread several people thought I was intentionally trolling. I was kinda mad at the time that they figured it out so quickly. Its also probably why Freak banned me as well. The troll attempt that day was too obvious.

If I was this guy who just turns on Dobbs at the first sight of him struggling (as some have tried to imply), wouldn't I have turned on him many other times? Shouldn't I have turned on him after South Carolina? Or even App State to open the year?

It would have been funny if Freak didn't ban me and fuel this fraudlent idea I somehow turned on Dobbs and left the site. That couldn't be farther from the truth.

Oh wait, you mean games like these may have contributed to him not even getting invited to the Heisman ceremony, much less winning it? I thought it was all the beat up defense and Butch Jones?
 
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Oh wait, you mean games like these may have contributed to him not even getting invited to the Heisman ceremony, much less winning it? I thought it was all the beat up defense and Butch Jones?

Butch Jones is the main reason the App State game was close. He intentionally kept Dobbs under wraps and it nearly cost us the game.

South Carolina was the only bad game of Dobbs career. It happens.
 
Josh Dobbs will be an all time great but he couldn't hit a receiver more than 10 yards downfield before this past season
 
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No one believes it was a joke! You just had 10 days to think of a way to spin it after we beat FL and GA. You knew that you screwed up and wanted to figure out a way to make it look like you planned it.... which is just dumb and immature.

It was nothing but an excuse.

You look for recognition in likes, thread length and who believes you. You need to find out what life is really about so you can be more fulfilled. This looking to be someone special on a forum isn't working and seems desperate. It's like watching a train wreck. I know I give you hard time but it's because you try to pass opinions as fact, come off as full ego, want attention, are hypocritical, and don't admit you mistakes.

Your either a troll or you want attention badly. Neither is done by a sane person but by someone who has issues.

Just remember the only person you fool is yourself. It's like you start believing your lies and twisted thoughts.
 
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