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Couple things.

Butch needs to let coach Shoop hire whoever he wants. Even if that means the entire defensive staff goes. This defense has players to be successful and coach Shoop needs full authority to implement what he was hired to do.

Secondly, it is coach Jones offense and he needs to hire whoever he thinks is a good fit and will gel with his team.

If our defense returns to top 30 form and we have a similar offense to the last couple years we will win 10-11 games a year.

As for the administration, this wasn't a shock that Hart stepped down. These idiots have had 6 months to sort this out. Florida was in same position and handled with precision. The leadership on the Hill needs to get moving.

CBJ has done some things well and other things not so much. He however has not had the support or guidance from a competent leadership team at UTK. That is why he has my support. He has only shown cracks in his foundation this year. Time for someone to provide assistance with media, boosters, administrators etc. He can and will be successful with the proper support structure.

My opinions.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Are the people running things at UT completely incompetent?
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I don't know... They look alright to me.
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LA Vol said:
Helfrich is not coming. CBJ wants to keep the offense and the "terminology" the same. All signs point to Scott. The question is, how will Z fit in? Will they make him Co-OC or will some lesser promotion pacify him for another year?
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Gillespie deserves a promotion more than Z or anyone else for that matter.
 
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Butch did well enough to set a scoring record with the pool guy. We lost games in large part because we had a DL consisting of one All American and and some figurines made of paper mâché and empty Muscle Milk bottles. Whether or not you believe Butch is a good coach, it isn't nearly as bad as it's painted.

Mark Helfrich played for the national championship. Is he a good coach? Two years later he went 4-8. What about now?

Brian Kelly played for the national championship. Is he a good coach? Four years later he went 4-8. So?

Gene Chizik won a national championship. Good coach, right? Two years later 3-9. OK.

Gus Malzahn played for the national championship the next year after Chizik went 3-9. Dude must be the awesomeness! Is down to 7-6 in two years. So how good is he really?



QB play was big in most, if not all, of those cases...maybe even bigger than the coach. The quality of Debord's game calling probably correlated very strongly to how well Dobbs did. How well Dobbs did probably correlated to how well the OL performed. So execution matters. A lot. Maybe even more than scheme or who's calling the plays. Our 3* RB made our 5* RB look bad. Did Debord suddenly figure out how to use a RB? Or might execution matter?

We hired a home run DC, who was unable to build a run stopping defense with the aforementioned Muscle Milk bottles. Clearly a loser.

Please allow Butch's OC hire to fail before assuming he will do so. I bet his hire, whoever it is, will look like a freaking genius if one of our QBs has a clue, or will look as woefully lost as our "can't miss" DC with the DB's who are apparently taught to ignore the oblong brown object. Because...you know...execution...
 
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LA Vol said:
Of course there is. When you put someone in a position of power whose vision is out of sync with the university, its alumni and its financial supporters, not to mention at odds with the economic and educational capabilities of the state, dissonance is bound to follow.
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If she is that out of sync then what people think about her being a 100% political hire is true and was a bad hire
 
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LA Vol said:
Of course there is. When you put someone in a position of power whose vision is out of sync with the university, its alumni and its financial supporters, not to mention at odds with the economic and educational capabilities of the state, dissonance is bound to follow.
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Isn't the president over her and can overrule any idiotic thing that she is trying to do?
 
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LA Vol said:
Of course there is. When you put someone in a position of power whose vision is out of sync with the university, its alumni and its financial supporters, not to mention at odds with the economic and educational capabilities of the state, dissonance is bound to follow.
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I'm sure you know more than I do, but how is that the case? Because she wants to have input on the AD search? There's literally 35 posts in this very thread saying "let Shoop hire his own guy" but the President of UTK doesn't get that same benefit?
 
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LA Vol said:
They've passed on Terry Fair, too. Shoop prefers Barlow.
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While I love Fair this is a move I am perfectly fine with. Barlow was Shoops guy at Vandy and is very well respected as a coach. The Vandy corners were mean as hell when he coached them. I haven't watched Nc State but have seen people say similar things about their group.
 
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Hey Bev. Your brand new. We need an AD now and we've got this great candidate. Give his bio a look, give him a call if you want, and unless you have any specific objections we are going to bring him on as soon as we can because we have a serious leadership vacuum that needs filling ASAP.

- DePietro

Why is that so hard?
 
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Kingston Vol said:
I'm sure you know more than I do, but how is that the case? Because she wants to have input on the AD search? There's literally 35 posts in this very thread saying "let Shoop hire his own guy" but the President of UTK doesn't get that same benefit?
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Different completely. She is an academic wanting to make an athletic hire. Shoop is the DC wanting to make hires that directly affect his defense. The AD will affect the university but it won't as directly affect Bev like the D assistants will directly affect Shoop and his career going forward.
 
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Only Tennessee would have the perfect AD who lives the university right in their lap and they insist on not hiring him. He will go on to better things in his career, probably at another SEC school while we continue to mire in crap. And if Davenport was that out of sync, why the hell was she hired?! Who is running this s---show?!
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
While I love Fair this is a move I am perfectly fine with. Barlow was Shoops guy at Vandy and is very well respected as a coach. The Vandy corners were mean as hell when he coached them. I haven't watched Nc State but have seen people say similar things about their group.
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NC State was 12th in the nation in passing yards allowed this year. I'll take Barlow in a second.
 
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glichtenwalter said:
Hey Bev. Your brand new. We need an AD now and we've got this great candidate. Give his bio a look, give him a call if you want, and unless you have any specific objections we are going to bring him on as soon as we can because we have a serious leadership vacuum that needs filling ASAP.

- DePietro

Why is that so hard?
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I can think of a few political reasons
 
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