Is Helfrich @ OC a legit discussion?

#427
#427
LWSVOL said:
Mike is only 60 and still really energized.

Helfrich is collecting around 12 million from Oregon and could easily be interested in taking a position job for less money while deciding a direction to go in the future. He might learn to like Knoxville and want to stay longer term or head back out West.

Not anything I've been told. speculating based on bits and pieces of hearing things
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I don't think Helfrich suffers from an overpowering ego, but to drop from former P5 and playoff title game HC to simply a QB coach is a little too steep. Gotta dangle more resume building responsibility and a decent title to lure him to a different situation. The national perspective of Butch is that this is going to be a pivotal year. If he's a big factor in improving Tennessee, he's going to want a piece of the credit and conversely he'd want to have a bigger hand in ensuring that he's not a one year position coach. I've been an advocate for DeBord being judged on his performance...not the fan fiction that he was a geezer hired away from the community pool. From his two years, I've observed his strengths as play design and aligning the OL with the RBs. Any weaknesses stem from the occasional rut on playcall tendencies. DeBord fully replacing Mahoney and implementing the gameplan with Scott transitioning in OL duties whilst Helfrich adds a fresh approach in gameday playcalling, seems to be what Butch needs in changing the status quo. This allows him to afford proper respect to DeBord but also move forward. Only sticking point is his willingness to jettison his most loyal assistant in Mahoney.
 
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#428
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LWSVOL said:
Mike is only 60 and still really energized.

Helfrich is collecting around 12 million from Oregon and could easily be interested in taking a position job for less money while deciding a direction to go in the future. He might learn to like Knoxville and want to stay longer term or head back out West.

Not anything I've been told. speculating based on bits and pieces of hearing things
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I think Helfrich is waiting for a West coast job or maybe there is a position in NFL.

I doubt CBJ will push out DeBord if Helfrich wants an OC job. And I don't see CBJ offering a Co position either.

I think we offered him the QB job with a potential opening for OC if DeBord decides to leave.
 
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#431
#431
BJWeeks said:
Need a real OLine coach. Debord helped with line this year with Mahoney and no improvement
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HELPED last year and it DID improve markedly. Big difference in your input when you're fully in charge. He's coached OL extensively throughout his career including at the highest level...he's "real".
 
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#432
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butchna said:
I don't think Helfrich suffers from an overpowering ego, but to drop from former P5 and playoff title game HC to simply a QB coach is a little too steep. Gotta dangle more resume building responsibility and a decent title to lure him to a different situation. The national perspective of Butch is that this is going to be a pivotal year. If he's a big factor in improving Tennessee, he's going to want a piece of the credit and conversely he'd want to have a bigger hand in ensuring that he's not a one year position coach. I've been an advocate for DeBord being judged on his performance...not the fan fiction that he was a geezer hired away from the community pool. From his two years, I've observed his strengths as play design and aligning the OL with the RBs. Any weaknesses stem from the occasional rut on playcall tendencies. DeBord fully replacing Mahoney and implementing the gameplan with Scott transitioning in OL duties whilst Helfrich adds a fresh approach in gameday playcalling, seems to be what Butch needs in changing the status quo. This allows him to afford proper respect to DeBord but also move forward. Only sticking point is his willingness to jettison his most loyal assistant in Mahoney.
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Good post
 
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#435
#435
Chip Kelly got fired with the niners......I wish UT would go after him but they won't
 
#438
#438
So, anymore information on Helfrich's visit on Thursday? Or was it just because they were in Nashville, and he was already there to visit Mariotta?
 
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#442
He is not going to go from a HC at a power 5 school to QB Coach. Maybe co-offensive coordinator with Debord over DL. Debord as been ok this year, but not good when we needed the offense the most. To predictable. I'd love to get Helfrich here as the OC / QB Coach
 
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Spawn said:
He is not going to go from a HC at a power 5 school to QB Coach. Maybe co-offensive coordinator with Debord over DL. Debord as been ok this year, but not good when we needed the offense the most. To predictable. I'd love to get Helfrich here as the OC / QB Coach
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Why not? Given his buyout, he doesn't need the money, he may see it as a place to be until he decides what he wants to do next. Sometimes a person needs to take a step back and evaluate their situation before going forward again. The stress as a position coach is not going to be the same stress as an OC would be.

And given that Tennessee will be starting a new QB after having Dobbs there for 4 years, I say a good QB coach is needed.
 
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#449
I honestly believe that if we do make these necessary additions we may be to overcome the negative recruiting that has unquestionably swayed some talent that may have been on the fence.
If we are going to make the changes I wish we would do it quickly. Waiting I honestly believe won't help and we reallycould use a couple of second chances this cycle.
 
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