The Problem of Whiteness

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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Not socially.

We are genetically the same race. But white supremacists have spent the last 500 years convincing the world we are different races. So that is how we know behave.

Until we rectify the inequalities created by this system of white supremacy we can't move beyond the SOCIAL CONSTRUCT that is race.
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You blame white supremacists for promoting racial differences, yet you've spent all of your time in this thread lecturing us on phenotypes and racial differences.

You claim white supremacists control the scientists who disagree with the they came before Columbus nonsense, yet scientists claim race doesn't exist.

If scientist are controlled by white supremacists as you claim, they would never deny the existence of race
 
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SergeantVol said:
+1 You are slowly changing my opinion of you!
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You know when you are at someone else's house and they ask if you want something and to be polite you say yes? I'll flat out tell them no to pumpkin.

"Utvols88, you want some pie?:
What kind?
"Pumpkin"
Hell no. Don't ever ask me that question again.
 
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utvols88 said:
You know when you are at someone else's house and they ask if you want something and to be polite you say yes? I'll flat out tell them no to pumpkin.

"Utvols88, you want some pie?:
What kind?
"Pumpkin"
Hell no. Don't ever ask me that question again.
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Same here. Wife love it though. I always tell her she can eat it by herself then.
 
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#479
My wife has about a dozen pumpkin spice coffee creamers in the chest freezer right now. She stocks up during the holidays.

(Our PF regulars will recognize the triple-subject combo and award the bonus points, especially considering that the above is true, as well as pertinent to the conversations.)
 
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Orange_Crush said:
My wife has about a dozen pumpkin spice coffee creamers in the chest freezer right now. She stocks up during the holidays.

(Our PF regulars will recognize the triple-subject combo and award the bonus points, especially considering that the above is true, as well as pertinent to the conversations.)
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I still don't get what's funny about a chest freezer.
 
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hog88 said:
I still don't get what's funny about a chest freezer.
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Not socially.

We are genetically the same race. But white supremacists have spent the last 500 years convincing the world we are different races. So that is how we know behave.

Until we rectify the inequalities created by this system of white supremacy we can't move beyond the SOCIAL CONSTRUCT that is race.
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Without mentioning reparations, what do you propose?
 
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volprof said:
On a tangential sidenote, I have stopped using the hyphen for any American subgroup. If you're black, you're black to me now. No more African-American. If you're Hispanic or Latino, you're Hispanic or Latino to me now. No more Mexican-American, Colombian-American, Puerto Rican, etc. If you're Irish-American, you're just white. Even if you're Native American, it doesn't matter to me anymore; you're now either Indian or First Nations people. (I've always liked First Nations best anyhow, because it sounds mythic and cool; I have no clue why we haven't adopted that like Canada did long ago.)

I don't like the way we keep pigeon-holing our identities as a culture today. While it may make some of us - especially the historically disenfranchised - feel good about ourselves today, it will only create further room for divisiveness in the future. Going the way of identity politics never ends well.
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Cool. I am an African American. Can I get all the bennies and preferential treatment you get now?
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All the preferential treatment like discrimination against you in hiring, pay, housing, loan rates, education, and the judicial system?

No sane or realistic person thinks minorities get special treatment. The only ones who say that are mediocre to below average White guys who are mad others are doing better. They wish it was like when their fathers and grandfathers worked with no competition from any other demographics and being a average or below average White guy set you up to have a decent living and make more than other groups in America. Work hard and stop whining. You still have the advantage in America. You just actually have to try a little now.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Do it! How's business?
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As far as the dream venue? Well, 33% of the LLC died in a motorcycle accident about 2 weeks ago, so that's been put on hold even further.

As far as my beverage direction LLC, I'm still having to turn away contracts, so that's cool.
 
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k-town_king said:
All the preferential treatment like discrimination against you in hiring, pay, housing, loan rates, education, and the judicial system?

No sane or realistic person thinks minorities get special treatment. The only ones who say that are mediocre to below average White guys who are mad others are doing better. They wish it was like when their fathers and grandfathers worked with no competition from any other demographics and being a average or below average White guy set you up to have a decent living and make more than other groups in America. Work hard and stop whining. You still have the advantage in America. You just actually have to try a little now.
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lol
 
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utvols88 said:
lol
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Second that lol. Would love to let my son check the AA box and apply for all the minority scholarships. We would have so much grant and scholly money left over i could pay off my house. My little sister had nearly perfect gradeS like my son, but not the SAT or ACT scores, and she gets about 25,000 a year in grants and schollies. She chose to attend a private school that is quite pricy and it is costing far less than in state tuition to UTK. I am glad she gets the help...but since we are all Africans my son and eventually daughter should get equal help. Thanks d4h.
 
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Wonder if I could apply for all of that insisting my son was African and when they tried to deny it just tell them "we are afrocentrists and if you deny our heritage and our beliefs we will have to file suit for the oppression. Which way to the safe space? We are feeling a little threatened by you."

Of course, I could never look myself in the mirror again...but why not surrender our dignity for a few bucks? It's sadly becoming the American way.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Second that lol. Would love to let my son check the AA box and apply for all the minority scholarships. We would have so much grant and scholly money left over i could pay off my house. My little sister had nearly perfect gradeS like my son, but not the SAT or ACT scores, and she gets about 25,000 a year in grants and schollies. She chose to attend a private school that is quite pricy and it is costing far less than in state tuition to UTK. I am glad she gets the help...but since we are all Africans my son and eventually daughter should get equal help. Thanks d4h.
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My daughter is in college at MTSU. She doesn't get a bunch of "Black" scholarships. She gets academic scholarships and grants available to all. There are also several scholarships that only White people can get just like there are some Black people can get. Black people don't get thousands of dollars for free automatically when you go to school as some of you seem to wrongly think.
 
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k-town_king said:
My daughter is in college at MTSU. She doesn't get a bunch of "Black" scholarships. She gets academic scholarships and grants available to all. There are also several scholarships that only White people can get just like there are some Black people can get. Black people don't get thousands of dollars for free automatically when you go to school as some of you seem to wrongly think.
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What scholarships are only available to white people. And no a golf scholarship doesn't count.
 
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k-town_king said:
All the preferential treatment like discrimination against you in hiring, pay, housing, loan rates, education, and the judicial system?

No sane or realistic person thinks minorities get special treatment. The only ones who say that are mediocre to below average White guys who are mad others are doing better. They wish it was like when their fathers and grandfathers worked with no competition from any other demographics and being a average or below average White guy set you up to have a decent living and make more than other groups in America. Work hard and stop whining. You still have the advantage in America. You just actually have to try a little now.
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Hiring? There are laws, LAWS, to force people to hire minorities.

Pay? That's your own fault

Housing? The government gives it to you almost free if you are poor. Programs exist to help minorities get homes. However watch out for another housing crisis as that was created by the government "helping out" with housing..

Loan rates? That's all about personal responsibility. Your own fault if you have bad rates.

Education? Your own fault.

Judicial system? Your own fault.

Everything is in place in this country for everyone to get an equal shot. There will however NOT BE EQUAL OUTCOMES.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Not socially.

We are genetically the same race. But white supremacists have spent the last 500 years convincing the world we are different races. So that is how we know behave.

Until we rectify the inequalities created by this system of white supremacy we can't move beyond the SOCIAL CONSTRUCT that is race.
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See kids, this is what happens when your degree's textbooks are filed in the science fiction section..
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Hiring? There are laws, LAWS, to force people to hire minorities.

Pay? That's your own fault

Housing? The government gives it to you almost free if you are poor. Programs exist to help minorities get homes. However watch out for another housing crisis as that was created by the government "helping out" with housing..

Loan rates? That's all about personal responsibility. Your own fault if you have bad rates.

Education? Your own fault.

Judicial system? Your own fault.

Everything is in place in this country for everyone to get an equal shot. There will however NOT BE EQUAL OUTCOMES.
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Do t be trying to get people to be responsible. We can't have that.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
As far as the dream venue? Well, 33% of the LLC died in a motorcycle accident about 2 weeks ago, so that's been put on hold even further.

As far as my beverage direction LLC, I'm still having to turn away contracts, so that's cool.
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I'm sorry to hear about your partner.
 
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