The Problem of Whiteness

[hog88]

I never said there are no minority scholarships. To act like Black people automatically get free money others get is a lie.

There are foundations and schools that give out scholarships after an interview process that weeds out minorities. Organizations like the Daughters of the Confederacy give out White only scholarships every year. Whites can get "minority" scholarships at HBCUs. You are misinformed like usual.

You sure about this?

 

[RikidyBones]

I never said there are no minority scholarships. To act like Black people automatically get free money others get is a lie.

There are foundations and schools that give out scholarships after an interview process that weeds out minorities. Organizations like the Daughters of the Confederacy give out White only scholarships every year. Whites can get "minority" scholarships at HBCUs. You are misinformed like usual.

DoC does not have a single racial qualification. Quit clinging to horse**** arguments.

 

[Carl Pickens]

All the data available contradicts this. You are going off of emotion and not fact. The largest benefactor by far has been White women.

My information is coming directly from my wife that works in HR at a Fortune 100 company. The number of opportunities may be limited but they do exist..... and I got my first two jobs because TSU was on my resume. They selected me for the interviews because they thought guy I was a black man.

 

[RikidyBones]

Of course you are ignorant on this. Whites can get minority scholarships at HBCUs. Just like they can go to many foundations and organizations that only award their scholarships to White people.

No I just didn't know tsu was a hbcu

 

[RikidyBones]

I will say this..... there were many that didn't particularly care for white boys coming around trashing up their HBCU. The issue came up in numerous classroom discussions during my time there.

Funny how the amount of black kids in a class doesn't become a classroom discussion at a state University.

 

[RikidyBones]

really, here is one that requires a person to belong to the NAACP to apply among other things. NAACP | NAACP Scholarships

I could find literally zero that specifies a recipient/applicant must be white. if there are none that specify white people to limit other races, and there are plenty that limit white people by specifying a minority how is it an equal playing field, and how do we get just as many opportunities?

when filling out any scholarship application it always helps to be able to check that minority box. Middle class white males are at the bottom of the list. heck just being a girl my sister got twice as many scholarship offers and colleges coming after her than I did.

all of this said: there is no plight for white people scholarships. I had to earn every one I got while competing against everyone. thats the way it should be.

I agree with your last paragraph fully

 

[k-town_king]

really, here is one that requires a person to belong to the NAACP to apply among other things. NAACP | NAACP Scholarships

I could find literally zero that specifies a recipient/applicant must be white. if there are none that specify white people to limit other races, and there are plenty that limit white people by specifying a minority how is it an equal playing field, and how do we get just as many opportunities?

when filling out any scholarship application it always helps to be able to check that minority box. Middle class white males are at the bottom of the list. heck just being a girl my sister got twice as many scholarship offers and colleges coming after her than I did.

all of this said: there is no plight for white people scholarships. I had to earn every one I got while competing against everyone. thats the way it should be.

DoC does not have a single racial qualification. Quit clinging to horse**** arguments.

You have to trace a direct ancestor to a member of the confederacy that did not surrender before the end of the war. Then you have to go through a local president. They aren't giving those to Black descendants of confederates. Be real.

White helped start and are members of the NAACP. Being a member a requirement does not exclude White people.

My information is coming directly from my wife that works in HR at a Fortune 100 company. The number of opportunities may be limited but they do exist

Maybe her company has a focus on diversity. At the majority of companies that is simply not true.

 

[RikidyBones]

You have to trace a direct ancestor to a member of the confederacy that did not surrender before the end of the war. Then you have to go through a local president. They aren't giving those to Black descendants of confederates. Be real.

Another statement by you that is not even supported by your silly conjecture.

While you ASSUME this, there are scholarships that actually practice the racial qualifications for Africans

 

[k-town_king]

Another statement by you that is not even supported by your silly conjecture.

While you ASSUME this, there are scholarships that actually practice the racial qualifications for Africans

The minority scholarships were only created because discrimination from places giving scholarships biased policies. Yes, there are some only for minorities. There is a need for them though.

 

[RikidyBones]

The minority scholarships were only created because discrimination from places giving scholarships biased policies. Yes, there are some only for minorities. There is a need for them though.

How it used to be is inconsequential to how it is today. There is no need for them just as there is not a need for white scholarships. Poverty, yes. Race, no.

 

[k-town_king]

How it used to be is inconsequential to how it is today. There is no need for them just as there is not a need for white scholarships. Poverty, yes. Race, no.

Well we just agree to disagree. :hi:

 

[Biopsyman]

Too many people and too many worthless degeeea

 

[AirVol]

I had no idea that so many on this thread was born in Africa.

 

[Vol8188]

You have to trace a direct ancestor to a member of the confederacy that did not surrender before the end of the war. Then you have to go through a local president. They aren't giving those to Black descendants of confederates. Be real.

White helped start and are members of the NAACP. Being a member a requirement does not exclude White people.




Maybe her company has a focus on diversity. At the majority of companies that is simply not true.

Theres an economic price to be paid for discrimination. Markets don't discriminate and people who do end up going out of business

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Hiring? There are laws, LAWS, to force people to hire minorities.

Pay? That's your own fault

Housing? The government gives it to you almost free if you are poor. Programs exist to help minorities get homes. However watch out for another housing crisis as that was created by the government "helping out" with housing..

Loan rates? That's all about personal responsibility. Your own fault if you have bad rates.

Education? Your own fault.

Judicial system? Your own fault.

Everything is in place in this country for everyone to get an equal shot. There will however NOT BE EQUAL OUTCOMES.

You're giving D4H a run for his money on stating the opposite of fact in the name of blatant racism.

I honestly think "racist" is thrown around too often on this board. Not just from the liberal crowd, but some of the so called "conservatives" as well. You, however, are almost shameless about it. You just falter when it comes to nutting up and saying that you believe whites are the supreme race. Even Franklin Pierce's ***** ass does the same thing.

 

[RikidyBones]

Well we just agree to disagree. :hi:

I suppose so. I believe in pure equality.

You want groups of people to get benefits that are not available to other groups of people. 👍

 

[Vol8188]

You're giving D4H a run for his money on stating the opposite of fact in the name of blatant racism.

I honestly think "racist" is thrown around too often on this board. Not just from the liberal crowd, but some of the so called "conservatives" as well. You, however, are almost shameless about it. You just falter when it comes to nutting up and saying that you believe whites are the supreme race. Even Franklin Pierce's ***** ass does the same thing.

I agree with what he's saying about equal outcomes. Equality means an equal opportunity, but not an equal outcome. If you look at east vs west Europeans in American or Europeans vs Asians you'll see larger pay gaps than you do between black and white.

 

[FLVOL_79]

You're giving D4H a run for his money on stating the opposite of fact in the name of blatant racism.

I honestly think "racist" is thrown around too often on this board. Not just from the liberal crowd, but some of the so called "conservatives" as well. You, however, are almost shameless about it. You just falter when it comes to nutting up and saying that you believe whites are the supreme race. Even Franklin Pierce's ***** ass does the same thing.

Racist? Nah. Realist.

I never said Whites are the supreme race. Hell, in America Asians take the number one category for everything that is seen as a positive in Western society.

But bless your heart for thinking that when I say there is equal opportunity but no equal outcome and that somehow becomes racist..well..your soft shell baby helmet as a newborn must have been a little too snug.

 

[FLVOL_79]

I agree with what he's saying about equal outcomes. Equality means an equal opportunity, but not an equal outcome. If you look at east vs west Europeans in American or Europeans vs Asians you'll see larger pay gaps than you do between black and white.

Dont jump on the faux racism train brah.

 

[Carl Pickens]

Funny how the amount of black kids in a class doesn't become a classroom discussion at a state University.

True.... and the discussions weren't exactly positive either.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Racist? Nah. Realist.

I never said Whites are the supreme race. Hell, in America Asians take the number one category for everything that is seen as a positive in Western society.

But bless your heart for thinking that when I say there is equal opportunity but no equal outcome and that somehow becomes racist..well..your soft shell baby helmet as a newborn must have been a little too snug.

I'm referencing the hundreds of posts of yours as well. Again, you're even too much of a ***** to just come out and say it under the guise of anonymity provided on a message board.

 

[RikidyBones]

True.... and the discussions weren't exactly positive either.

Why did you go there? Out of curiosity. Major?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

The minority scholarships were only created because discrimination from places giving scholarships biased policies. Yes, there are some only for minorities. There is a need for them though.

Right, because intellectual equality based on skin color is a noble goal.

 

[PKT_VOL]

All this talk about discrimination, minorities, colleges, scholarships, etc. and no mention of the discrimination against Asians. Quotas based on skin color have ended up rewarding underachieving Blacks and Latino while punishing overachieving Asians.

 

[k-town_king]

Right, because intellectual equality based on skin color is a noble goal.

You are really dumb if you think that is the reason for minority scholarships.