The UT admin needs to understand

#76
#76
That "guy" had the benefit of winning with a team Tony Dungy put together. He was a one and done coach. Nothing significant before or after his one and done season with Tony's team. He thanks his lucky stars he has to no longer coach as he was exposed IMO. Bring him back to college football, especially on The Hill would be a massive fail, he knows it and anybody that was in Tampa Bay while he was there knows it.

Dungy is the overrated one. Gruden was the only coach in forever to make the Raiders good, and in fact built the team that he then dominated in the Super Bowl. I bet some of you were the ones saying "Don't worry about Bama hiring Saban, he's overrated."
 
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#78
#78
That "guy" had the benefit of winning with a team Tony Dungy put together. He was a one and done coach. Nothing significant before or after his one and done season with Tony's team. He thanks his lucky stars he has to no longer coach as he was exposed IMO. Bring him back to college football, especially on The Hill would be a massive fail, he knows it and anybody that was in Tampa Bay while he was there knows it.

Again, I am having a hard time figuring out who is being discussed
 
#79
#79
UT is happy with a 8-4, a decent bowl game, and no big scandals. They have never shown the slightest hint that they are willing to pony up and compete with Saban. His program is heads and shoulders above everyone else. They might care if we were the only SEC team that couldn't compete with him, but no one else can either.
 
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#80
#80
that UT fans are tired of losing to Alabama every year

I know some of you youngsters think that Florida is our biggest rival, but it will always be Alabama to a majority of us

Im sick and tired of hearing Bama fans rattle off and having to smell cigarettes and cheap liquor on their breath

I'm sick and tired of hearing Roll Tide and seeing every other redbeck in Tn wearing an Alabama shirt and a frickin gray penis on their head

I'm tired of hearing about how they will never lose again

I'm tired of having to explain to 70% of their fans that before Saban, we owned their ass for 11 years in a row

I'm tired of their smug ass attitudes

Most of all, I'm tired of a UT AD that doesnt recognize how important beating Alabama is to this school and going out and doing everything necessary to see it comes to an end

Go Vols

While you make valid points, you do realize they already know these things and as long as a$$es fill seats on Saturdays this administration couldn't care less about our "feelings."
 
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#81
#81
that UT fans are tired of losing to Alabama every year

I'm tired of having to explain to 70% of their fans that before Saban, we owned their ass for 11 years in a row

Go Vols

Ya gotta' understand that while Alabama was hiring a national championship coach, Tennessee was busy firing theirs. It is what it is.
 
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#82
#82
Sorry I don't agree, we need to drop the Bama game and meet them in the championship. It puts us at a disadvantage every year by playing them, even Steve Spurrier understood that, why you think Florida makes the championship. Even LSU is complaining that Bama has an advantage playing Tennessee every year. DROP THE GAME, BEAT THEM IN ATLANTA!
 
#83
#83
Ya gotta' understand that while Alabama was hiring a national championship coach, Tennessee was busy firing theirs. It is what it is.

Actually they played multiple times and Saban beat ours like a rented mule
 
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#84
#84
Sorry I don't agree, we need to drop the Bama game and meet them in the championship. It puts us at a disadvantage every year by playing them, even Steve Spurrier understood that, why you think Florida makes the championship. Even LSU is complaining that Bama has an advantage playing Tennessee every year. DROP THE GAME, BEAT THEM IN ATLANTA!

As much as I hate to say it - I agree. The other option would be to determine the division champs based on games within the division.
 
#85
#85
Awesome.
"Just" hire the coach with the proven ability to dethrone Alabama. When anyone sane points out that no coach has that resume', insult other Vols by claiming they "don't want to win".

Oh,I forgot, Gruden is basically a guarantee. He will leave his current job and come here because... some fans post "This is Tennessee". No entitlement issues there.
Of course if he would come, apparently his success is also guaranteed. Afterall, his 1 championship in a different league, also guarantees college success. Heck, ask Spurrier and Saban, it always translates from one league to the other.
Maybe a proven champion like Chizick? Because no way 1 championship could be the result of talent instead of coaching right guys?
I truly have nothing against Gruden and if he ever was to come here, I would give him support. But just like with Shoop, as soon as the 'splash hire' saber rattlers realize that he is a man and not a god, they will turn on him also. Those who don't, will once again be accused of wanting mediocrity.
 
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#87
#87
You obviously have no clue how any of this works...

Every single agent who represents every coach out there sends out feelers after every season. Most of the time you never hear about them and most of the time the sole purpose of doing so is to get your client a raise/extension.

I'll guarantee you Butch Jones did not actively himself contact Purdue or inquire about that job.

I could believe that he actvily persued that job. Less stress I thought everybody knew Jones wanted out
 
#88
#88
Something tells me since UT is an academic school the administration is more focused on the everyday on running the school, the student body and their teachers, and football is just secondary. Can't say I disagree.
 
#89
#89
Not all together true

Nope I'm 42 and it's still Bama. As long as they count overall conference record then it's just as important as the Florida game. The idea of ducking Bama is a defeatist attitude. Also makes me sick.
 
#90
#90
Something tells me since UT is an academic school the administration is more focused on the everyday on running the school, the student body and their teachers, and football is just secondary. Can't say I disagree.

When did UT turn into Harvard or even Vanderbilt for that matter. I missed that deal..
 
#91
#91
I understand your anger, but dang man they have a NFL minicamp over there in Tuscaloosa. I hate Alabama as much as anybody, and I am also tired of Tennessee not getting its share of respect and success, but what do you do? Alabama has built a dynasty. Six years in a row with the #1 recruiting class and it seems like no matter who gets injured or is drafted they always have another stellar playmaker to step up. They aren't just beating up on Tennessee, they are beating up on the country. I feel like the only thing we can do is sit and wait until it ends. I hate them, but I respect Nick Saban.

Anyways I assume you're alluding to the fact that we need to open the bank and go pay whatever it takes to get a proven winner and staff. I agree. We need somebody who can give us a Xs and Os advantage until our depth and talent level can catch up. Then create our own dynasty and go on a run of our own.

Yes and we need a coach that can take blue chip players and make them into 1st round draft choices. That's what future recruits want to see happening before they commit.
 
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#96
that UT fans are tired of losing to Alabama every year

I know some of you youngsters think that Florida is our biggest rival, but it will always be Alabama to a majority of us

Im sick and tired of hearing Bama fans rattle off and having to smell cigarettes and cheap liquor on their breath

I'm sick and tired of hearing Roll Tide and seeing every other redbeck in Tn wearing an Alabama shirt and a frickin gray penis on their head

I'm tired of hearing about how they will never lose again

I'm tired of having to explain to 70% of their fans that before Saban, we owned their ass for 11 years in a row

I'm tired of their smug ass attitudes

Most of all, I'm tired of a UT AD that doesnt recognize how important beating Alabama is to this school and going out and doing everything necessary to see it comes to an end

Go Vols

So is every other team in the SEC
 
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#98
#98
Fixed

:whistling:
Young fella wants to erase history. He probably doesn't realize Florida was trash before Spurrier got there. Oh well. Unless they start taking division records the game with them counts just the same as the Gators.
 
#99
#99
they're committed to being a contender in the conference instead of a pretender. I doubt it though.

“Kids judge you by your car,” Jones told the Knoxville newspaper. “It’s crazy.”

A pretender ?? I like that.

The HC of Tennessee Football shouldn't need a Mercedes sports car, to impress recruits, Butch.

Sadly, I see Butch Jones driving up to a group of recruits in his nice Mercedes -- "Hey guys, see my new car / are you impressed with my Mercedes, guys? Oh, by the way, don't worry about the fact we just lost to Vandy and South Carolina this year / just wait 'til next year guys."

"Hey guys, who would like a ride in my shiny new Mercedes?"

Come up Butch -- Ditch the Mercedes. Go Vols.

https://www.seccountry.com/tennessee/report-tennessees-butch-jones-drives-220000-foreign-car-to-impress-recruits
 
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