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He said something similar in his Monday press conference. "It starts with me."

I honestly don't know what some people are looking for in these things. Are you hoping he goes up there and wallows in his guilt and inadequacies for 30 minutes?

He has to put on the front like nothing's wrong. We're in year 4 now. These are his players, this is his system. This is what he's selling to recruits. If he admits there are problems, opposing coaches will have relayed the quote to recruits before he finishes talking. So he spouts his cliches, because they can't be used against him in any meaningful way.

At this point we don't know what he's actually thinking with regards to scheme and coaching changes. And we won't until he gets rid of somebody. I kind of think that's how it should be.

I think where he gets himself in trouble with "some" fans is when he says some things that can be perceived as minimizing the loss. Things like being proud that we were going to be bowl eligible. It's like some of the times he's trying to lower the bar. Not saying that's the case but I can see how some would take it that way.
 
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Since this is technically a recruiting forum, any word on how this latest debacle is affecting our recruiting situation? Any updates on when the TE recruit's father said they were nervous about keeping their spot because there was 5 higher tier prospects giving heavy interest?
 
Heard Chris Landry on Atlanta radio yesterday. He said its hard for him to see Butch at UT in 2-3 years. He also said as a scout, he would have a hard time recommending a team draft Hurd.

If that's the case then this is the pinnacle. Enjoy it folks.
 
Heard Chris Landry on Atlanta radio yesterday..

Was not impressed with his insight when he was on 104.5 several years ago. Tends to throw things against a wall to see if it would stick. Did he give any context on why he didn't think CBJ would be here in 2 -3 years?
 
Was not impressed with his insight when he was on 104.5 several years ago. Tends to throw things against a wall to see if it would stick. Did he give any context on why he didn't think CBJ would be here in 2 -3 years?

Not really. Just a general impression the team was underachieving this year. He's on every week, but it's the first time I've heard him talk Vols. He's definitely better discussing player evaluation or team tendencies than big picture stuff. His Vol stuff was pretty thin on analysis.
 
Do you need him to open up a vein or something? Maybe stage a crucifixion like they do in the Phillipines? He either fixes this or he doesn't. Grousing about him using words to take responsibility will definitely speed up the process.

If Butch could stick a knife in his heart
Suicide right on the stage
Would it be enough for jave36's lust
Would it help to ease the pain? Ease your brain?
 
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Heard Chris Landry on Atlanta radio yesterday. He said its hard for him to see Butch at UT in 2-3 years. He also said as a scout, he would have a hard time recommending a team draft Hurd.

It's hard for me too. But I'm also keeping in mind the 10 million dollar buyout that looks almost as stupid as Dooley's buyout. They're not paying that 10 million in full. It will be 2 years at least until we see a change, unless he just completely bombs next year. Or option 3 being he gets his head out of his butt and makes a couple good hires. Doubtful. And yes, Hurd was a mid round pick to start with, not sure anyone will touch him now.
 
If Butch could stick a knife in his heart
Suicide right on the stage
Would it be enough for jave36's lust
Would it help to ease the pain? Ease your brain?

All I said was I want to see meaningful changes instead of "this is on coaches" every single week with 0 actual changes being made. Team comes out exactly as flat every single week as it did week 1. You sensationalists just can't handle someone saying anything with which you disagree without responding with asinine levels of hyperbole.

Look at your post, does it really match the intensity of my casual comment that CBJ needs to do more than verbally own problems and instead make actual changes?
 
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I just remember lots of people clamoring for him and afraid we'd lose him.

Fans make knee jerk reactions based on fear/nothing.

Most I've seen on here have been hoping he'd leave, not be promoted. Maybe we both just remember people who agree with us lol
 
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I just remember lots of people clamoring for him and afraid we'd lose him.

Fans make knee jerk reactions based on fear/nothing.

I remember it completely different. A small segment thought if we didn't at least name him co-OC, he'd leave and we would lose Preston Williams.

I'd say even 10 percent is high, but whatever fits your narrative I suppose.
 
It's days like this I'm proud to be a Vol. Sitting at a Chick Fil A in Gainesville and watching all these smug college kids walk in and out with their blue and orange on.

I love the fact that we spanked these fools. 38-28 and GBO!
 
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