To Protect and to Serve II

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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
And there it is....

The guy was having car trouble. He hadn't committed any crimes.
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No he didn't but he put his life and the cops life at risk by not following orders.....the cops don't know what's going on with guy.... I've had guns pulled on me before and I stood as still as can be with my hands up in there bc all it would take is a cop to think something is going on to pull that trigger.
 
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volbeast33 said:
No he didn't but he put his life and the cops life at risk by not following orders.....the cops don't know what's going on with guy.... I've had guns pulled on me before and I stood as still as can be with my hands up in there bc all it would take is a cop to think something is going on to pull that trigger.
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Not following orders....

**** you and their orders.
 
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volbeast33 said:
No he didn't but he put his life and the cops life at risk by not following orders.....the cops don't know what's going on with guy.... I've had guns pulled on me before and I stood as still as can be with my hands up in there bc all it would take is a cop to think something is going on to pull that trigger.
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Last year I posted a poll that asked if it was okay to use deadly force to make someone follow commands. The response was overwhelming against it, yet time and time again the phrase "he should have just complied" is used to rationalize a police shooting.
 
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volbeast33 said:
No he didn't but he put his life and the cops life at risk by not following orders.....the cops don't know what's going on with guy.... I've had guns pulled on me before and I stood as still as can be with my hands up in there bc all it would take is a cop to think something is going on to pull that trigger.
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The police should only draw their weapon when there is an identifiable threat.
 
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volbeast33 said:
No he didn't but he put his life and the cops life at risk by not following orders.....the cops don't know what's going on with guy.... I've had guns pulled on me before and I stood as still as can be with my hands up in there bc all it would take is a cop to think something is going on to pull that trigger.
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He was already tased. I hope she didn't confuse her gun with the taser.
 
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CMvol said:
He was already tased. I hope she didn't confuse her gun with the taser.
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Except she has her side arm out and pointed at him the whole time. Maybe the taser shot caused her to flinch and pull the trigger. Which begs the question why she had it out to begin with.
 
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YorkVol said:
Except she has her side arm out and pointed at him the whole time. Maybe the taser shot caused her to flinch and pull the trigger. Which begs the question why she had it out to begin with.
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I didn't find the reason as to why he was out of his car? his car broke right?
 
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I'll tell you this, until we see a change in malum in se vs malum prohibitum laws, nothing will ever change.

Most of these so called "laws" are completely arbitrary and amount to nothing more than a cash grab.

These cops basically have a license to kill and do so at a moments notice.
 
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YorkVol said:
Last year I posted a poll that asked if it was okay to use deadly force to make someone follow commands. The response was overwhelming against it, yet time and time again the phrase "he should have just complied" is used to rationalize a police shooting.
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You don't get shot for simply not following orders but not following orders can get you shot....// all it takes is a cops perception is that you are going for a weapon.
 
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I'll tell you this beast, it appears from just your anecdotal evidence you've provided, cops are psychopaths. A point I am in complete agreement with. Cops are cowards who show up in packs and go to guns with the slightest perception of disobedience.

If we know this about police,why do we tolerate the abuse? Surely there is a market solution.
 
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volbeast33 said:
You don't get shot for simply not following orders but not following orders can get you shot....// all it takes is a cops perception is that you are going for a weapon.
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Yeah I get that, unfortunate that is the first response as opposed to just talking to a person.

Edit, I should say was their response in this case, other police do talk to those that serve.
 
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Name your political bad actor throughout history and you'll discover, absent cops or military, they would've never attained the level of power they accumulated.

The reason is, they are the tip of the spear for all that is politics. They enforce the edicts of the political bad actor.
 
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CMvol said:
I didn't find the reason as to why he was out of his car? his car broke right?
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Yeah, I haven't heard those details yet. From the 911 calls it appears something happened to his car that caused him to jump out and leave it running in the middle of the street with the door open. That is strange. Police respond to the 911 calls and investigate. He walks up while they are there. We don't know what is said, but just see him enter the frame with his hands up and go to the driver side. The police have their weapons drawn and appear to be talking to him but you can't hear what is said. He made that fatal error of reaching into the car and they tased him and then shot him. I think he was either reaching in to turn off the engine or get his license. That mistake cost him his life, unfortunately.
 
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YorkVol said:
Yeah I get that, unfortunate that is the first response as opposed to just talking to a person.

Edit, I should say was their response in this case, other police do talk to those that serve.
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Watch the videos where they go through shooting training...... It takes a split second to be shot bayou decide to hesitate....it's why this guy and every other person should stand there with their hands up and not move so the cop doesn't have to make that choice. You never know what the cop just came from either which can affect the outcome of this situation.
 
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It's amazing that anybody can watch the footage of a shooting like this and still come to the defense of the cops involved.

This was murder, plain and simple.
 
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volbeast33 said:
Watch the videos where they go through shooting training...... It takes a split second to be shot bayou decide to hesitate....it's why this guy and every other person should stand there with their hands up and not move so the cop doesn't have to make that choice. You never know what the cop just came from either which can affect the outcome of this situation.
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They're peace officers, not grizzly bears. You shouldn't have to consider being murdered if you move simply because Jackboot Johnny is on the scene.
 
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Toujours Pret said:
They're peace officers, not grizzly bears. You shouldn't have to consider being murdered if you move simply because Jackboot Johnny is on the scene.
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That is true if the world was like Mayberry and Barney only needed his one bullet but this is the real world where in Chicago in one weekend. Up to 20 people can die from gun violence.
 
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