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If you honestly believe in faith healing and have issues with doctors that's fine... for you. Please don't force that on your kids or anyone else. Let that be a personal decision.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Then stop going to them all together then.
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I go to them because I have to but like I said we've just had bad experiences with most of them.

delfonic said:
If you honestly believe in faith healing and have issues with doctors that's fine... for you. Please don't force that on your kids or anyone else. Let that be a personal decision.
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Didn't I say just a few posts back that I don't force faith/religion on anybody? That does include my family members.

However, as a messenger for God it's my job to try & help people get saved. I do that but I don't force it on any person. If I don't try & do that then the Lord isn't going to reward me for not doing what His word says.

Now, let's get off the faith/religion talk. I had stopped but some of you keep bringing it back up so I continue to do so as well. Thanks!
 
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#1Volfaninmo said:
Darth likes to ridicule and make fun of religion or anything religion related.
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I know what he does. But he is not all bad, that's why out of the dozens I've ignored, Darth is not one of them. I don't know why he does it. I give phony baloney a harder time than anybody, but not about that. If he's being a phony about that, then that's between him and God. Like I said before, the only reason people here know anything about what I do, is because I have shared my testimony, and my experiences with some VN members who were in pain. I've never claimed to be any great thing, and I love VN because it is where I can be a carefree kid again for a minute. I have been in the trenches fighting addiction and suffering for nearly two decades now. We have sacrificed almost everything to do what we do. I need this place to blow off steam, and fraternize with regular guys. I don't really mind people thinking my thoughts are stupid or silly, as it compares to real life, ALL this is stupid and silly. Plus..I'm no genius, I know I'm wrong a lot.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
I know what he does. But he is not all bad, that's why out of the dozens I've ignored, Darth is not one of them. I don't know why he does it. I give phony baloney a harder time than anybody, but not about that. If he's being a phony about that, then that's between him and God. Like I said before, the only reason people here know anything about what I do, is because I have shared my testimony, and my experiences with some VN members who were in pain. I've never claimed to be any great thing, and I love VN because it is where I can be a carefree kid again for a minute. I have been in the trenches fighting addiction and suffering for nearly two decades now. We have sacrificed almost everything to do what we do. I need this place to blow off steam, and fraternize with regular guys. I don't really mind people thinking my thoughts are stupid or silly, as it compares to real life, ALL this is stupid and silly. Plus..I'm no genius, I know I'm wrong a lot.
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That is an excellent post by you Ulysees E. McGill. There is definitely no such thing as normal in this life for sure. Not one single human being in this life is normal.

Having said that, there's some on here at VN that have lost their everlasting last marble! LOL! :eek:lol:
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
I know what he does. But he is not all bad, that's why out of the dozens I've ignored, Darth is not one of them. I don't know why he does it. I give phony baloney a harder time than anybody, but not about that. If he's being a phony about that, then that's between him and God. Like I said before, the only reason people here know anything about what I do, is because I have shared my testimony, and my experiences with some VN members who were in pain. I've never claimed to be any great thing, and I love VN because it is where I can be a carefree kid again for a minute. I have been in the trenches fighting addiction and suffering for nearly two decades now. We have sacrificed almost everything to do what we do. I need this place to blow off steam, and fraternize with regular guys. I don't really mind people thinking my thoughts are stupid or silly, as it compares to real life, ALL this is stupid and silly. Plus..I'm no genius, I know I'm wrong a lot.
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I missed your testimony, so I'm not sure if you're talking about yourself or others fighting addiction. But a personal question for a family member: To conquer your addiction, was there anything that loved ones could do to help, or was it something that you had to do for yourself? I'm at an impasse. I feel like by helping, we're hurting/enabling. It's fine if you choose not to answer by the way. But thanks if you do!
 
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Kristy* said:
I missed your testimony, so I'm not sure if you're talking about yourself or others fighting addiction. But a personal question for a family member: To conquer your addiction, was there anything that loved ones could do to help, or was it something that you had to do for yourself? I'm at an impasse. I feel like by helping, we're hurting/enabling. It's fine if you choose not to answer by the way. But thanks if you do!
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That is right in his wheelhouse
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
The first sentence of your last paragraph is completely ridiculous. You dont trust wny doctors? Do you have any clue as to how difficult medicine is? Do you know how hard being a doctor is? Can you even fathom how intricate and complex the human body is? You make it sound like those conditions you have are just exteremely simple things that any idiot on the street can diagnose. If you dont trust doctors then dont go to them. Every time a doctor does something bad thats all you hear about, but very little is said sbout all the good they do. Pitiful
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Doctors and cops have that in common these days. People wanna **tch and show no appreciation until they NEED one. It's easy to sit back and pick apart faults from the sidelines. If you think you can do better, apply to Med School. Or just do like BOT suggested and don't use them.


Edit. Thanks buddy! 😉
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Come on man lay off him about that. He has plenty of other traits to ridicule..sincerely please.
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#1Volfaninmo said:
Darth likes to ridicule and make fun of religion or anything religion related.
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I have no problem with religion or religious people.


However, when people use their religion, like Tony has, to insincerely condescend other's behavior, I do like to poke fun at them. Especially when there's hypocrisy involved.

Religious or not, Tony saying he's "too Christian" for the ribbing we do on one another here and then telling someone to shove something up their bums is hypocrisy and is fair game.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
I have no problem with religion or religious people.


However, when people use their religion, like Tony has, to insincerely condescend other's behavior, I do like to poke fun at them. Especially when there's hypocrisy involved.

Religious or not, Tony saying he's "too Christian" for the ribbing we do on one another here and then telling someone to shove something up their bums is hypocrisy and is fair game.
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Good grief. I DO NOT use religion/faith very much on here buddy. You just like to respond back to me negatively no matter what I post. Won't you just admit it there buddy? You're trying to make me fold but I don't fold. :)
 
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tonybologna said:
Good grief. I DO NOT use religion/faith very much on here buddy. You just like to respond back to me negatively no matter what I post. Won't you just admit it there buddy? You're trying to make me fold but I don't fold. :)
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Sometimes I wonder if you actually understand what any of the words you use mean. I'm guessing not. Anyway, here's a bunch of posts where you do that thing you say you don't do.
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Didn't I say just a few posts back that I don't force faith/religion on anybody? That does include my family members.

However, as a messenger for God it's my job to try & help people get saved. I do that but I don't force it on any person. If I don't try & do that then the Lord isn't going to reward me for not doing what His word says.
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tonybologna said:
You don't know what my family & I have been through with drs. That's all I'm going to say about this anymore as a Christian man. Thanks!
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What's contradictory? And, you're right! Lyme Disease doesn't mean you are crazy but I can tell you from experience it will drive you crazy. Especially long term neurological Lyme Disease. I'm still standing though thanks to the Good Lord above.

He gets all the credit because I've had renal(kidney failure) twice & the drs. didn't do a thing to help them start working again. It was all done by Jesus & he's my caretaker.

That's why my faith is so strong in Him & I do talk about it on here from time to time. In my opinion, we all need Jesus but I'm not going to force Him on anybody. That's their choice & not mine! I know what he's done for me. Thanks!
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I thought you had placed me on "Ignore". It's ok if you want to do that. Doesn't hurt my feelings because I come on here to tell the truth about things & some people don't like it. I also like to have fun but some people again take it way too seriously like I've been accused of doing.

I have to give it back sometimes even though I'm a Christian man & will not personally attack ANYONE! That's not God's way to live. I love ALL of you whether you like me or not or place me on "Ignore". God is Love & that's the way I work most of the time. Thanks!
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I don't because I already have him living deep inside of me! Thank You Lord!
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Not gonna happen from a Christian man there buddy. It's just this stuff Kristy* kept going on & on about got all over my nerves.

I've been on here posting long enough for you'll to know whether I'm a trusted member or not. I don't care what people think. I'm not on here to tell lies though.

I can tell you that. God would punish the heck out of me for lying. I live for him & don't want to be punished by my maker & creator.

I truly do love all of you on here & only God can do that for you but it doesn't mean I'm perfect or can just set back & be run over without saying anything back to members. Thanks!
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tonybologna said:
I agree there's nothing wrong with having fun on VN. I like to joke around myself. However, there's too many posts where people personally attack other members. There should be penalties for that.

Talking about someone or their family personally is totally wrong. I don't care what forum it is called & subject matter is for. I'm a Christian man & that's what upsets me so much about this. We are supposed to all love each other even though most of us don't personally know each other.

Some of the comments I've seen posted has actually made me cry posted towards other people. It's not the way God intended us to live.

Like I said, kidding & joking is a different story but flat out brutally personally attacking ANY member is wrong & that poster should be temporarily banned or something to send a message it's not going to be allowed. Thanks!
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This one, where you insinuate that people who like the banter aren't true christians is an especially passive-aggressive, condescending use of your faith

tonybologna said:
It's just harder for me as a true Christian man to see some of the stuff posted. It's not abut growing thick skin. It's about me having a god loving heart for ALL people & not wanting to see people talked to in such a way including myself. That's just me & my faith but I'm not pushing faith or Christianity on anybody on here. Thanks!
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tonybologna said:
It was either in this thread or the Matthews thread that was started that two different members stated their sources said it wasn't Chandler.

I'm going to go back through this thread to see if it was in this one. I'm tired of being called a pothead when I don't use any type of drugs guys.

I'm straight & clean as you come. I don't have my reference to Matthew in the Bible in my signature for nothing. I trust & believe in my faith. I don't care if you'll do or not.

It's the best decision I've ever made & the best thing that's ever happened to me & that includes getting married & having a son.

I'll stand up for it too in all situations. I take no offense because so many of you'll love to say things to stir the pot.

But, I also don't allow myself to be run over on here like so many others. I will give it back to whoever wants to say things to me that test my faith but I will handle myself in a godly manner.

You won't see me personally attack anybody by calling them bad names & stuff like that. I can't believe some of the stuff I see posted on here. It's really ridiculous. Thanks!
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That's all from this thread this week. Granted, I don't live in the bible belt anymore, so maybe I've just forgot how common it is. But it comes off as very disingenuous. It seems like you'd get on great with some pharisees, buddy! Thanks!
 
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Kristy* said:
I missed your testimony, so I'm not sure if you're talking about yourself or others fighting addiction. But a personal question for a family member: To conquer your addiction, was there anything that loved ones could do to help, or was it something that you had to do for yourself? I'm at an impasse. I feel like by helping, we're hurting/enabling. It's fine if you choose not to answer by the way. But thanks if you do!
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Sorry for the late response..I've been busy dealing with some things...To answer that question. I will tell you what I told a mother and her 15 year old today when we picked him up from rehab....There is nothing you can do but pray, and show love, and be there when they really decide to change. All you do by providing a safety net, is enable them to keep living that life. A addict has to do it for them self. It is a strange thing...
Both hating and loving something so destructive yet so seductive. It is a lot longer conversation than I can type coherently. I am a very good speaker, but a horrible writer. I have been to hell and back by the mercy of almighty God. I am not now, nor have I ever been strong. God strengthened me. There are soooo many destroying themselves that it is overwhelming at times. Hence the reason I love this silly place. I pray that your family member decides to look up and live...But know this...it is not yours or anybody else's fault. We are all only accountable to God and our self. I will walk through hell for somebody honestly trying. You'll know when they are. Another thing is that you have find purpose. If you take all the trash out of a barrel, and just fill it with trash again, then nothing is accomplished. But if you fill it with something precious..there is no room for trash.
 
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Also Kristy to answer your other question...I started out just going out social drinking on weekends when I was about twenty, Me and my first wife would go out and party, but we started having major trouble about four years in and when we separated the first time, I became an alcoholic and pothead. Then on to meth..then I started speedballing meth and Heroin, sometimes cocaine or crack with heroin or morphine, but mainly always with meth.. I moved a lot of different drugs to be able to afford mine and my wife's habits...It really is the mercy of God that I'm not dead, or in jail for a very long time...Please remember this..as long as there is breath..there is hope...God bless.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Also Kristy to answer your other question...I started out just going out social drinking on weekends when I was about twenty, Me and my first wife would go out and party, but we started having major trouble about four years in and when we separated the first time, I became an alcoholic and pothead. Then on to meth..then I started speedballing meth and Heroin, sometimes cocaine or crack with heroin or morphine, but mainly always with meth.. I moved a lot of different drugs to be able to afford mine and my wife's habits...It really is the mercy of God that I'm not dead, or in jail for a very long time...Please remember this..as long as there is breath..there is hope...God bless.
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Thank you so much for your response! Your story is an inspiration in what you were able to overcome. The work you do, reaching others, is paramount. I feel like God has a purpose for us all; and by helping you through your struggles, he was able to use you to reach many more.

This is the last I will say, because I don't want to go into specifics. But it's truly hard to love someone and 'sit back and watch' what they're doing to themselves. His actions have made it clear he doesn't want help right now. I feel like he would rather fail than win with help, or maybe that he doesn't want to win at all. I will continue to pray for sure. Thanks for your response and again for what you do!
 
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Kristy* said:
Thank you so much for your response! Your story is an inspiration in what you were able to overcome. The work you do, reaching others, is paramount. I feel like God has a purpose for us all; and by helping you through your struggles, he was able to use you to reach many more.

This is the last I will say, because I don't want to go into specifics. But it's truly hard to love someone and 'sit back and watch' what they're doing to themselves. His actions have made it clear he doesn't want help right now. I feel like he would rather fail than win with help, or maybe that he doesn't want to win at all. I will continue to pray for sure. Thanks for your response and again for what you do!
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All honor to God..your welcome and I hope my thoughts are a help. If you ever need to ask me anything, please feel free. Have a blessed day.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
I reaaaaaallllyyyy don't like you, and I don't like when your quoted usually, but I will thank you for this information, and quote you because others that have you ignired might like to know. Thanks for info.
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Please receive this humanitarian award on behalf of VN.
 
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