The Trump-Russian connection and why both are doing what they are doing

#102
#102
I just gotta laugh at all this banter. You guys blaming everything on the dems and Obama and seem to totally ignore that 90% of the crap out of dumpster's mouth is just that...crap. It seems trump is at the point thinking, "damn, I could win this thing, I don't want this damn job". And he's trying to do and say everything he can to lose, but he keeps going up in the polls. Kinda like the Seinfeld episode where George does completely the opposite of what he thinks he should do and winds up being in a "world spinning on greased grooves".
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#103
#103
n_huffhines said:
I don't know what's in the emails, so I can't say. It could be information that starts WWIII, for all I know, so I can't say it should be revealed.
Click to expand...

As GAVol stated it was a flippant comment and he wasn't seriously suggesting Russia should hack Hillary.

Besides, the FBI says those emails are long gone so how would Russia "find" them anyway.
 
#104
#104
slobberknocker said:
I just gotta laugh at all this banter. You guys blaming everything on the dems and Obama and seem to totally ignore that 90% of the crap out of dumpster's mouth is just that...crap. It seems trump is at the point thinking, "damn, I could win this thing, I don't want this damn job". And he's trying to do and say everything he can to lose, but he keeps going up in the polls. Kinda like the Seinfeld episode where George does completely the opposite of what he thinks he should do and winds up being in a "world spinning on greased grooves".
Click to expand...

In my opinion Trump's comments have disqualified him from the presidency several times over. It's extraordinary that the Democrats have actually managed to put up someone worse.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 4 people
#105
#105
UTCVol said:
In my opinion Trump's comments have disqualified him from the presidency several times over. It's extraordinary that the Democrats have actually managed to put up someone worse.
Click to expand...

Yep. The man talks constantly and it keeps coming out. I'm simply stunned at the reaction to his comments today.
 
#106
#106
UTCVol said:
In my opinion Trump's comments have disqualified him from the presidency several times over. It's extraordinary that the Democrats have actually managed to put up someone worse.
Click to expand...

This............it's been the most amazing thing I have ever witnessed. The Dems should have been able to win this in a no contest.
 
#107
#107
DancingOutlaw said:
When all else fails go for deflection and volume.
Click to expand...

Some of you are acting like the DNC and the media is what drove this story today. Trump's own words are indefensible. He advocated cyber-warfare from one of our enemies. No Republican is defending the absurdity of his statements. Not Giuliani (who has tried to clarify what he thinks Trump meant), not Paul Ryan (who issued a statement through his spokesman denouncing Russia) and not even Mike Pence, his own running mate. Gingrich tried to call it a joke (even though Trump has doubled down on it).

This is yet another example of how Donald Trump's rhetoric is inarticulate, clumsy, impulsive and ignorant. He will backtrack from it later and without admitting a mistake, he will both call it a joke and blame the media for his own lack of clarity.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3 people
#109
#109
BowlBrother85 said:
Some of you are acting like the DNC and the media is what drove this story today. Trump's own words are indefensible. He advocated cyber-warfare from one of our enemies. No Republican is defending the absurdity of his statements. Not Giuliani (who has tried to clarify what he thinks Trump meant), not Paul Ryan (who issued a statement through his spokesman denouncing Russia) and not even Mike Pence, his own running mate. Gingrich tried to call it a joke (even though Trump has doubled down on it).

This is yet another example of how Donald Trump's rhetoric is inarticulate, clumsy, impulsive and ignorant. He will backtrack from it later and without admitting a mistake, he will both call it a joke and blame the media for his own lack of clarity.
Click to expand...

I saw it live and to me it clearly was a joke and the media is hyperventilating about it. So if he calls it that he's right.

I thought his comments about NATO and not defending a country that hadn't lived up to it's commitment was MUCH, MUCH worse. He was being serious. Today he was just riffing on the Hillary email stuff. It's being blown way out of proportion.
 
#110
#110
This seems to be 2005 Germany all over again when Putin's best friend Gerhard Schroeder lost his reelection to Angela Merkel. Just as Putin hates Merkal he hates Hillary it seems. And Trump seems to get an even better match for Trump than Schroeder was for Putin.
 
#111
#111
volinbham said:
I saw it live and to me it clearly was a joke and the media is hyperventilating about it. So if he calls it that he's right.

I thought his comments about NATO and not defending a country that hadn't lived up to it's commitment was MUCH, MUCH worse. He was being serious. Today he was just riffing on the Hillary email stuff. It's being blown way out of proportion.
Click to expand...

He has doubled down on it since then with another one of his tweets.... and how would you explain Mike Pence's statement if it was a joke?
 
#112
#112
carlos86 said:
This seems to be 2005 Germany all over again when Putin's best friend Gerhard Schroeder lost his reelection to Angela Merkel. Just as Putin hates Merkal he hates Hillary it seems. And Trump seems to get an even better match for Trump than Schroeder was for Putin.
Click to expand...

Have you lost you mind or just got your talking points confused?
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#113
#113
carlos86 said:
This seems to be 2005 Germany all over again when Putin's best friend Gerhard Schroeder lost his reelection to Angela Merkel. Just as Putin hates Merkal he hates Hillary it seems. And Trump seems to get an even better match for Trump than Schroeder was for Putin.
Click to expand...

You're such a Putin hater, you're actually falling for this, huh?!
 
#114
#114
BearCat204 said:
This............it's been the most amazing thing I have ever witnessed. The Dems should have been able to win this in a no contest.
Click to expand...

Concurrently, the GOP should be leading by a wide margin right now given the choice of the DNC.
 
#115
#115
hog88 said:
But sadly the same can be said about the republicans.
Click to expand...

Either Kasich or Rubio would have won over 320 electoral votes in November and the popular vote by at least 8 points. I will never understand the Trump thing... and what happens if he does squeak out the election in November? The mid-term elections in 2018 would be a blood bath for Republicans and good luck trying to get him re-elected in 2020 when none of these bold promises have come to fruition and he has a record to defend against a candidate not named Hillary.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#117
#117
lawgator1 said:
George Will raises possible Trump link to Russian oligarchs | TheHill


George Will, who we all know is no fan of Trump's is suggesting that the reason Trump seems to keep announcing policy positions endearing to the Russians is because he is financially connected to and indeed dependent on them. He suggests that one reason Trump won't release his tax returns is that they will show that Trump is indebted to the Russians, and Putin and his allies, in particular.




So let's examine this in a bit more detail, to see if there is any "there" there. And when you look into it, it is quite alarming and ominous.

Why George Will Might Be Right About Vladimir Putin's Hold Over Donald Trump (VIDEO) | RedState




Trump has screwed over US banks and other banks in the West. They won't deal with him. But he and the family are getting tons of money from Russia. And his campaign manager wants him to take a soft line on Russia in the Ukraine. And his campaign made ONE change to the platform -- back off of contesting Putin in the Ukraine.

This is not going away, folks.
Click to expand...

Upset? Just teeny weeny bit? What she did was wrong no matter where it came from. Stop trying to redirect. Wait until the emails about she is in cahoots with.
 
#119
#119
UTCVol said:
In my opinion Trump's comments have disqualified him from the presidency several times over. It's extraordinary that the Democrats have actually managed to put up someone worse.
Click to expand...

Luckily your opinion doesn't mean anything, no offense.(for real no offense).


Age and residency requirements is the name of the game......game on!
 
#120
#120
Look a squirrel...

Sad part is at least half of americans are too dumb to see the obvious attempt at distraction. All they see is facebook headlines and twitter bullcrap. Hopefully that segment is also too dumb to show up and vote.
 
#122
#122
hog88 said:
Have you lost you mind or just got your talking points confused?
Click to expand...

Putin is known for betting on personal relationships with world leaders to help base his foreign policy on. Schroeder and Silvio Berlusconi are no more. Trump is pragmatic, lacks morals, is only concerned with self interest and power for its own is extremely cynical which are traits Putin looks for in partners on the world stage. Which makes Trump a perfect match.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#124
#124
carlos86 said:
Putin is known for betting on personal relationships with world leaders to help base his foreign policy on. Schroeder and Silvio Berlusconi are no more. Trump is pragmatic, lacks morals, is only concerned with self interest and power for its own is extremely cynical which are traits Putin looks for in partners on the world stage. Which makes Trump a perfect match.
Click to expand...

So what state leader doesn't use personal relationships?

Also do you think Hillary is any different? How the hell do you think the foundation is funded?
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#125
#125
hog88 said:
Yet you're ok with having advisors and other political liabilities killed?
Click to expand...

Kenneth Starr, the same guy who basically got Clinton impeached ruled that Foster commited suicide. So let's not go all the way back to 1994
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.
Advertisement

Back
Top