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IBlvNTmWrk said:
Where's volprof to call out these violent protesters like he was doing for those who supported Trump???
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I've never once applauded the counterprotesters or said I support them. That's you and one or two other posters putting words in my mouth.

What we're witnessing is the natural reaction of people to a candidate who has made his campaign one of "us v. them" narratives. Did you really expect the "them" part of that equation to roll over and play dead?

Trump's created this, as have his supporters, and they love it, because it plays into their idiotic narrative of being persecuted, while they're among the biggest damn persecutors of the entire lot.
 
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Kasich has now came out and placed the blame on the Trump Rhetoric for this uproar in Chicago.

Most on here say this will not harm Trump, however Cruc, Kasich and Rubio are using this against Trump. Some of the media is also saying Trump is blame.

We shall see what the political outcome of this is.

I am in the minority on the forum, or was last night. I still think this this hurts Trump. IMO, this shows the division his presidency could bring to America. Being blamed for rioting in America cannot be good for a presidential campaign, however the 2016 election is like no other election the ole man has ever seen.
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
Please. Chicago is the murder capital of the world. This was violence funded by George Soros
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So, I guess by that logic, we can say definitively that the violence committed by Trump supporters is funded by Trump.

Well, whether he's funded it or not, Trump has asked for it, and now he's getting it. He loves it, because it gives you more people to hate.
 
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vols4sure said:
Might have missed it but what has Trump or his supporters done in an effort to silence different political opinions?
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1. Trump has made several questionable comments concerning the First Amendment and the Constitution, indirectly.
2. He has openly advocated for his supporters to commit acts of violence against protesters to silence them. He condones these actions. (It's not that big of a stretch to claim that such behavior may make some unscrupulous Trump supporters think they are justified in using violence elsewhere as well, especially since he has fueled their paranoia.)

So, to sum up, Trump and his supporters are just another shade, often quite literally, of some of the same folks who compose groups like Black Lives Matter. The catch, however, is that the two groups are so alike, they can't realize how alike they are.
 
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Gramps said:
Kasich has now came out and placed the blame on the Trump Rhetoric for this uproar in Chicago.

Most on here say this will not harm Trump, however Cruc, Kasich and Rubio are using this against Trump. Some of the media is also saying Trump is blame.

We shall see what the political outcome of this is.

I am in the minority on the forum, or was last night. I still think this this hurts Trump. IMO, this shows the division his presidency could bring to America. Being blamed for rioting in America cannot be good for a presidential campaign, however the 2016 election is like no other election the ole man has ever seen.
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Trump's campaign is about putting everyone back into their rightful place after eight years of Obama. They was all getting too uppity. Republican's don't want to be associated with that and I don't blame them.
 
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JCP201 said:
Trump's campaign is about putting everyone back into their rightful place after eight years of Obama. They was all getting too uppity. Republican's don't want to be associated with that and I don't blame them.
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If your statement were correct Trump would not be way out in front in the primaries. The leaders of the party do not want to be associated with Trump, problem is they are not the party. The Republican voters are the party.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I blame the hillbilly in North Carolina. He made it fashionable to cross the line and punch a dude, then threaten to kill him.
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If a sanders supporter punched a member of Westboro baptist church, would you be defending the guy from Westboro? Or would you call him an antagonist?
 
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Vol8188 said:
If a sanders supporter punched a member of Westboro baptist church, would you be defending the guy from Westboro? Or would you call him an antagonist?
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I'm a Baptist. The Bible says you can tell a tree by the fruit it bears. The only fruits I see coming from Westboro is hatred. That is not Baptist doctrine nor is it anything Jesus taught.
 
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Gramps said:
If your statement were correct Trump would not be way out in front in the primaries. The leaders of the party do not want to be associated with Trump, problem is they are not the party. The Republican voters are the party.
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You are proving his point. Trump has actively courted angry white voters, who want more done to reassert their dominance over racial minorities and the poor. He highlights those divisions and echoes and promotes the resentments.
 
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Gramps said:
If your statement were correct Trump would not be way out in front in the primaries. The leaders of the party do not want to be associated with Trump, problem is they are not the party. The Republican voters are the party.
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There are many Republicans who would never vote for him, and the leaders do not want to be associated with that hate, but you are correct it is not the majority.

I don't know what this is. I just dont' feel like he represents the Republican Party, or at least what I thought it was.
 
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lawgator1 said:
You are proving his point. Trump has actively courted angry white voters, who want more done to reassert their dominance over racial minorities and the poor. He highlights those divisions and echoes and promotes the resentments.
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A Donald Trump presidency will make whatever it is that people think Obama has made race relations and political tensions in this nation look like an episode of "Sesame Street."
 
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JCP201 said:
There are many Republicans who would never vote for him, and the leaders do not want to be associated with that hate, but you are correct it is not the majority.

I don't know what this is. I just dont' feel like he represents the Republican Party, or at least what I thought it was.
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People want change. Why else would Trump and Cruz be standing at this primaries as the top two?

Same can be said about Sanders on the Dem side.

I am at a loss for words as why Hillary is still standing so strong in the primaries.
 
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volprof said:
A Donald Trump presidency will make whatever it is that people think Obama has made race relations and political tensions in this nation look like an episode of "Sesame Street."
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Seriously question prof.

It appears that Trump, Cruz or Hillary will be the next POTUS.

Which one can bring America together ?
 
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Gramps said:
Seriously question prof.

It appears that Trump, Cruz or Hillary will be the next POTUS.

Which one can bring America together ?
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None of them.

One preys upon our most base motivations and fears for his own personal gain (and appears that will be his method from here on out), another can't even bring two people who agree on the same thing to come together and actually agree on the same thing, and the other is more of the bad status quo and should probably be in prison.

All the unifiers' chances are dead now. But, the more I watch, the more I wonder if Americans honestly want unity, or if it's kind of like what I was saying about Americans' thoughts on infrastructure earlier: they claim to want it but are always unwilling to do what it takes to get it. At some point, we have to also blame ourselves for this mess, instead of deflecting all the blame on to our politicians.
 
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golfballs said:
People act surprised. The left tries to pull this **** all the time
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Trump supporters act surprised when their own rhetoric and methods get turned against them. Now, they're crying foul and complaining about persecution after having the "sissy *****" slapped out of them.
 
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Gramps said:
People want change. Why else would Trump and Cruz be standing at this primaries as the top two?

Same can be said about Sanders on the Dem side.

I am at a loss for words as why Hillary is still standing so strong in the primaries.
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IT's not that hard to figure. She represents no OTT change. For the most part, our Allies would feel comfortable if she was elected. Her husband has his issues, but overall he was a good president.
 
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