2016 Election

[Grand Vol]

Since I truly think we are ****ed regardless of who wins I am coming around to the Trumpster. At least we would have entertainment as we burn.

I wonder if that wall would stop people from heading south?

 

[hog88]

I wonder if that wall would stop people from heading south?

Being that it would be imaginary I doubt it.

 

[DC_Vol]

Since I truly think we are ****ed regardless of who wins I am coming around to the Trumpster. At least we would have entertainment as we burn.

Couldn't be worse than the last seven.

 

[mrorange211]

Trump has said we should kill jihadists family members. That's a war crime.

Why is this controversial?

 

[Grand Vol]

Why is this controversial?

For real?

 

[hog88]

Couldn't be worse than the last seven.

No it couldn't.

 

[Vol8188]

Why is this controversial?

If you commit a crime, should we then kill your parents, wife, and kids for your crime?

 

[Carl Pickens]

Are you claiming they have to make things up about trump? He gives them plenty of ammo. They have years worth of material already. No need to make things up.

Here's a prime example of what I'm talking about.

http://www.nydailynews.com/complete-guide-fleeing-president-donald-trump-america-article-1.2549397

 

[Gramps]

Sad but 100% true. Trump has tapped into the anger people have towards both parties while the Republican establishment just angers their base. They didn't learn from 2008 or 2012.

IMO, Trump should not be mentioned in the same sentence as losers McCain and Romney. Trump has a movement going that continues to grow pulling from both sides similar to what Reagan did. That is not comparing the policies of Reagan and Trump. It is a comparison of the movement.

 

[Carl Pickens]

Couldn't be worse than the last seven.

This is exactly how I feel about the whole thing right now.

I didn't vote yesterday because I still can't decide which candidate to vote for and I figured Trump would win TN anyway.

 

[Grand Vol]

IMO, Trump should not be mentioned in the same sentence as losers McCain and Romney. Trump has a movement going that continues to grow pulling from both sides similar to what Reagan did. That is not comparing the policies of Reagan and Trump. It is a comparison of the movement.

I wouldn't be so sure on that one. The DNC has been happily watching the GOP rip itself up thus far into the election cycle since they haven't had to go after anyone in particular. However, once the convention is over, I'd bet you see an all out assault on the leader.

Just because one percent of the DNC membership in Massachusetts changed over to independent to vote doesn't mean swarms of people will be flipping to the Trump campaign.

 

[Carl Pickens]

it's not that hard to figure out. trump was made possible by ineffective, dishonest, and arrogant leadership inside the GOP ranks.

voters delivered for the gop in two big elections that should have carried a very clear message. the leadership gave the voters who did all the groundwork to deliver two majorities the finger.

now they are dealing with the consequences. my state hasn't voted yet, and trump will not get my vote. i don't, however, find his support baffling.

Do you think the GOP establishment has figured this out yet? They're nothing but a bunch of scared apologists that refuse to stand up for anything. It's almost as if they're double agents for the democrats.

 

[1972 Grad]

The man leading the field in the GOP primaries makes your statement false.

Trump could very easily be running on the Dem ticket.

He would have to change his message considerably. The wall and the mass deportation wouldn't go over that well with Dems.

 

[Carl Pickens]

I wouldn't be so sure on that one. The DNC has been happily watching the GOP rip itself up thus far into the election cycle since they haven't had to go after anyone in particular. However, once the convention is over, I'd bet you see an all out assault on the leader.

Just because one percent of the DNC membership in Massachusetts changed over to independent to vote doesn't mean swarms of people will be flipping to the Trump campaign.

It's already starting.....everywhere you look there is someone bashing Trump and doing their best to stretch the truth and fabricate a story.

 

[DC_Vol]

Do you think the GOP establishment has figured this out yet? They're nothing but a bunch of scared apologists that refuse to stand up for anything. It's almost as if they're double agents for the democrats.

Not yet. I think they have spent a long time in denial. They are in the bargaining stage now.

 

[hog88]

I wouldn't be so sure on that one. The DNC has been happily watching the GOP rip itself up thus far into the election cycle since they haven't had to go after anyone in particular. However, once the convention is over, I'd bet you see an all out assault on the leader.

Just because one percent of the DNC membership in Massachusetts changed over to independent to vote doesn't mean swarms of people will be flipping to the Trump campaign.

Since I cannot see Hillary garnering much excitement in the youth, minority or blue collar segments and definitely not the AARP crowd it might not take much flipping.

 

[hog88]

It's already starting.....everywhere you look there is someone bashing Trump and doing their best to stretch the truth and fabricate a story.

Which I think is actually helping him.

 

[***RoadVol***]

IMO, Trump should not be mentioned in the same sentence as losers McCain and Romney. Trump has a movement going that continues to grow pulling from both sides similar to what Reagan did. That is not comparing the policies of Reagan and Trump. It is a comparison of the movement.

Hard to compare when one has no policy to speak of.

 

[OldandStillaVol]

This is a reasonable article about what Trump has said he wants to do:

Build a giant wall, cut Education Department. What a President Trump would do - Yahoo Finance

I don't agree with some of the things he proposes re: immigration/illegal immigrants but I do agree with others (reduce EPA, DOE) and repatriation of corporate holdings outside of US. People should be discussing these issues as opposed to whether he repudiates the KKK.

I used to think he was in the race just for the attention but I no longer believe that. I haven't decided whether I would vote for him or not but I'm not immediately writing him off.

 

[Grand Vol]

Since I cannot see Hillary garnering much excitement in the youth, minority or blue collar segments and definitely not the AARP crowd it might not take much flipping.

Give it time.

 

[Carl Pickens]

Which I think is actually helping him.

I was thinking the same thing this morning on the drive in to the office. I think a large number of Americans are sick and tired of all the media bias BS and political correctness and are throwing their support to Trump in protest. The more the liberal media bashes him the more support he gets......It's like Trump is a big "F YOU" to the establishment.

 

[theFallGuy]

The man leading the field in the GOP primaries makes your statement false.

Trump could very easily be running on the Dem ticket.

I don't think it does. Voting for Trump is essentially a big FU to the GOP even if he does not prove to be ultra conservative.

 

[hog88]

Give it time.

I think once she actually has to answer real questions and face confrontation her true self will come out. And that will turn people off.

 

[n_huffhines]

I can't believe Rubio is losing to these guys. He should have been a shoe-in.

 

[n_huffhines]

I don't think it does. Voting for Trump is essentially a big FU to the GOP even if he does not prove to be ultra conservative.

I don't really get this position. What exactly are they repudiating about the GOP by voting for Trump? People say vague things like he's an outsider, but I see few ideological differences between him and the rest of the GOP.