To Protect and to Serve II

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#626
haha, it's about a militia made by a doctor and they go hunting cartel members. It's nuts
 
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n_huffhines said:
We can't do anything about Aguilar at this point. He's dead. Why are you so worried about the lesson we learned from his side of things? Let's get these dangerous, terrible cops off the streets.

Your focus is in the wrong place because you are a cop apologist.
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I'm not a cop apologist... I'm just more concerned with the Noel aguilars of the world than I am about the police.
 
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n_huffhines said:
fyp
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Had my house broken into twice... My lawnmower stolen from my shed.... Had to take away needles away from kids that found them in the field across from my house..... I care about what affects my family and people I care about.... I have never ever had a problem with the police.
 
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volbeast33 said:
Had my house broken into twice... My lawnmower stolen from my shed.... Had to take away needles away from kids that found them in the field across from my house..... I care about what affects my family and people I care about.... I have never ever had a problem with the police.
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Probably has something to do with your demographics.

I care about everybody, not just my own self-interest. Cops don't kill people like me, but I still want them to behave. Weird, I know.

Conservatives tend to distrust government. IRS, EPA, etc. is all wasteful, it's corrupt, and it's unwanted (or at least they want it severely limited).

Why suddenly all this trust for government when it comes to law enforcement? My best guess is that we all know cops that we respect and admire, so it's hard for us to see the grave problems in the criminal justice system.

The IRS and EPA is filled with good people with good intentions. It's the system and the corrupting power that creates bad outcomes. It's the same thing with law enforcement. Environmentalists turn a blind eye when the EPA ****s up, and that's part of why it's hard to exact change. Conservatives turn a blind eye when law enforcement ****s up, and that's part of why it's hard to exact change.

Please apply your conservative skepticism of government to the criminal justice system, for the love of God.
 
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Funny that there isn't a word about the two cops murdered the other day. I guess that's OK with some... carry on.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Are there any crimes you can commit where you can lose your freedom of speech or freedom of religion?

Are there any crimes where you can be denied their 5th Amendment rights/self-incrimination?
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Why take away the right of a habitual criminal to carry a gun? Gang bangers and thugs should be allowed to carry guns.... So should convicted armed robbers , rapists and various other violent offenders.
 
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#635
For those that hate the cops......let the thugs be thugs and run the streets as they please and what do you get?...... Detroit.....parts of Chicago.....Memphis.... You get the idea
 
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#636
I'm so f'ing tired of this narrative.

You ***** and moan but you offer no solutions. You say there's injustice and corruption but don't get any more involved to try and actually make a difference, other than to sit behind a computer and cry foul about those who actually do. You take exceptional situations and apply them as rule, only when it falls in line with your narrative.

And just to offer my response to the upcoming debate...

Corruption within law enforcement: it exists, it's ugly and those involved should be held accountable.

There are bad shootings. They're horrible, some much more than others. Again, accountability to those involved.

There are most definitely bad laws. We all know it. Officer discretion...we can choose to not to enforce them.

There is no race conspiracy within the criminal justice system. I've seen the statistics, I've done the research, I've worked the job. I've dealt with turds of all backgrounds, races and creeds...a turd is a turd is a turd.

You preach injustice and cry for accountability...so let's apply that principle across the board, to everyone. You're responsible for your actions and their corresponding consequences. You can't choose your family but you can choose your friends, morals and work ethic. That doesn't make it easy and I won't begin to say that it is.

One of my best friends grew up in the projects of Chattanooga. He's a retired 25 year veteran, a minister involved in the community, working on his 15th year in LE, and is currently contemplating whether he should get a master's degree.

There have been 7 LEO's killed in the line of duty in the last week, one of whom was attempting to disarm a teen by using a taser...pardon me if I seem a bit touchy this morning.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Everyone go watch the doc Cartel Land right now on Netflix. I was on the edge of my seat.
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I started watching this today and it is an amazing documentary. It is very graphic and shows decapitaed heads in Mexico. It also has interviews with victims of the cartels. It is very eye opening.
 
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orangeblood79 said:
There have been 7 LEO's killed in the line of duty in the last week, one of whom was attempting to disarm a teen by using a taser...pardon me if I seem a bit touchy this morning.
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Eric Garner died for selling loose cigarettes.

A law enforcement officers life is no more valuable than a civilian's life.

Sorry about your loss, though.
 
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#642
Eric Garner died for selling loose cigarettes.

He died because he was obese.

A law enforcement officers life is no more valuable than a civilian's life.

True statement. Who has said otherwise?

Pretty sure it was the cop that had the Taser, not the teen. Non lethal force attempt and he died for being a good guy. I can understand why his fellow cops would rather shoot lead than trons. You never know what somebody is hiding under their shirt. Eric Garner hid fat rolls.
 
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I don't agree with the Young Turks on the majority of issues, but they make good points here.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz9rT0Fh40[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwYrhcQQTSU[/youtube]
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Eric Garner died for selling loose cigarettes.

A law enforcement officers life is no more valuable than a civilian's life.

Sorry about your loss, though.
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That was never referenced nor inferred in my post.

What was, however, is accountability, several times. The officer(s) involved are currently being held accountable by the justice system. We'll see how it turns out...
 
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Carl Pickens said:
Give that neighbor of yours a couple of 1911s.... Who cares if he's shot someone while committing a crime? He won't do it again. He's been rehabilitated.
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Odds are that neighbor didn't serve a long enough sentence on his/her original charges, but had to be released early because of prison overcrowding. If we get all of the nonviolent drug offenders out of there, we may be able to cage up the real criminals.
 
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orangeblood79 said:
That was never referenced nor inferred in my post.

What was, however, is accountability, several times. The officer(s) involved are currently being held accountable by the justice system. We'll see how it turns out...
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I think it was inferred. You start off with "I'm so f'ing tired of this narrative", but then go into how many LEOs were killed last week. We can shed tears for cops, but the narrative around civilians getting killed is getting old.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I think it was inferred. You start off with "I'm so f'ing tired of this narrative", but then go into how many LEOs were killed last week. We can shed tears for cops, but the narrative around civilians getting killed is getting old.
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It wasn't.
 
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