Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXIV

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I don't mean to sound uncaring and I completely understand that there are more important things in life than football...but in relation TO football, just how worried should we be about this?
 
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BigOrange15 said:
I don't mean to sound uncaring and I completely understand that there are more important things in life than football...but in relation TO football, just how worried should we be about this?
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Not nearly as concerned as ole miss should be about their program
 
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Volnerd said:
This lawsuit will be almost impossible for the plaintiffs to prove. First they need to prove that sexual assaults actually occurred. (That will be determined by the trials currently in delayed status). Then for the ones who were not tried, all they have is allegations by females. So each of those would need a trial also. Even if they were successful in proving that assaults actually occurred, then they would need to prove that UT administrators knew about them and ignored them. That would be almost impossible, especially since the facts are probably just the opposite.

Bottom line is that this is a money grabbing scheme by some people that are hoping UT will settle out of court to make this go away. Personally, I hope they fight it!
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They would likely have a much better case against vanderbilt...
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Nice guys do stupid things sometimes when they fall for bad women..
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And sometimes they do the honorable thing when it is the most unpopular thing to do and has extreme consequences


If I had to bet which side is correct I would take the side of the kid that was well documented a leader off the field regarding character
 
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BruinVol said:
And sometimes they do the honorable thing when it is the most unpopular thing to do and has extreme consequences


If I had to bet which side is correct I would take the side of the kid that was well documented a leader off the field regarding character
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In his testimony, he said he gave her a ride home that night but that she never told him about a rape. That's what he told the Grand Jury and lying under oath is a crime so I'm fairly sure a whole lot of the speculation surrounding that night and Drae's actions and motives may well be just that - speculation.
 
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UTProf said:
In his testimony, he said he gave her a ride home that night but that she never told him about a rape. That's what he told the Grand Jury and lying under oath is a crime so I'm fairly sure a whole lot of the speculation surrounding that night and Drae's actions and motives may well be just that - speculation.
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Interesting.

So IF the physical altercation happened with the team and himself it perhaps wasn't even "justified"
 
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BruinVol said:
Interesting.

So IF the physical altercation happened with the team and himself it perhaps wasn't even "justified"
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He denied that any assault ever happened. My guess is that there was some kind of confrontation but nothing more than pissed off teammates.
 
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utvols88 said:
Yeah I'll believe DB on what happened to DB over some clowns who are not DB.
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Especially since there's no one to protect by lying about it and he'd be able to sue/press charges if it happened.

That suit is alleging it happened because that would strengthen their case for a 'hostile environment.' Civil cases don't have to prove things the same way criminal cases do and not to the same standard of proof either. They're banking, probably correctly, that UT will settle rather than go through a long drawn out process. It won't do UT a lick of good to win the case and unfortunately the bad press isn't worth fighting it even if UT is right/innocent.
 
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UTProf said:
Especially since there's no one to protect by lying about it and he'd be able to sue/press charges if it happened.

That suit is alleging it happened because that would strengthen their case for a 'hostile environment.' Civil cases don't have to prove things the same way criminal cases do and not to the same standard of proof either. They're banking, probably correctly, that UT will settle rather than go through a long drawn out process. It won't do UT a lick of good to win the case and unfortunately the bad press isn't worth fighting it even if UT is right/innocent.
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Aren't there tort reform measures that could limit this very kind of nonsense?
 
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UTProf said:
Especially since there's no one to protect by lying about it and he'd be able to sue/press charges if it happened.

That suit is alleging it happened because that would strengthen their case for a 'hostile environment.' Civil cases don't have to prove things the same way criminal cases do and not to the same standard of proof either. They're banking, probably correctly, that UT will settle rather than go through a long drawn out process. It won't do UT a lick of good to win the case and unfortunately the bad press isn't worth fighting it even if UT is right/innocent.
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Good post Prof. The Moshak, Debbie Jennings gender suit got settled out of court and now UT is an open target for $$.

UT will settle out of court and put this mess behind us.
 
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