Von Pearson WILL NOT be charged

#201
#201
jakez4ut said:
i would be a little surprised if there wasn't already a contingency plan for enrollment and potential reinstatement in place should things turn out the way they have.
Click to expand...

Exactly, you would think the University already has a policy in place during student athlete investigations to make the transition back into or out of the school and program an easier and faster one.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#204
#204
jakez4ut said:
i appreciate the insight. and like i said, maybe i'm just stuck on the verbiage. let me ask you this though, given your formal role, if you go thru several months worth of an investigation like this, and you do come to find you can't prosecute either b/c the investigation turned up NO evidence and can't prosecute, or just that you couldn't get enough evidence to prosecute, does that change the way one might interpret a statement like this?
Click to expand...

So, if the DA says there is no evidence or indication of guilt what would be your litmus test for allowing an innocent person to continue their freedom?

And my other question is what are you fishing for in this conversation? It seems that you are trying to push some assumptions that no one else here has privilege to. Tell us what we should know that apparently you know.

If you are saying that UT had better be careful in how it handles this situation because of the EEOC then I submit the DA's statement that this was totally handled in the proper way and based on that determination he can be enrolled and placed back on the team.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#205
#205
KBVol said:
Understand your points Jake, but what if, as the lack of evidence suggest, Von was completely innocent in this deal...please see BigOrangeTailgate's post 5-6 posts earlier. Prosecutors prosecute and for the DA to not even take the case to a grand jury is very telling IMO. While I would want justice for any young lady where the evidence validates her accusation of sexual assault, I think we're going down a very dangerous road if all she has to do is claim a crime was committed and the life of an innocent young man is put in jeopardy without the necessary proof.....especially in light of the other high profile cases that have come to light in recent years where young men were wrongfull
Click to expand...
 
Last edited:
#206
#206
jakez4ut said:
i seriously don't get why everyone is so excited. "insufficient evidence" just means they couldn't find enough proof to prosecute. it doesn't mean that nothing happened, and he's completely innocent of all accusations.

there's a bigger picture folks.
Click to expand...

Really? So our judicial system is flawed huh? Yes it does mean nothing happened. So what's the bigger picture? Quit with the political correctness bs. Maybe the girl lied. When it doesn't go your way there is always a "what if."
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#210
#210
Now maybe NIKE can recommend a lighter model of shoes for the KPD & D.A.'s office for all the foot-dragging that's been going on in the criminal justice system! :whistling:
 
  • Like
Reactions: 5 people
#212
#212
TheBigOne10 said:
Exactly, you would think the University already has a policy in place during student athlete investigations to make the transition back into or out of the school and program an easier and faster one.
Click to expand...

It's actually the opposite. Athletes get no preferential treatment from the university review process. In fact, sometimes it works against them that they are athletes because some on the review committees have a disdain for the athletic side of the university. We're a university that has athletics, not a university that exists solely to field a football team. I feel there are people (cheek) that purposively slow things down to remind people of this fact.
 
#213
#213
I really am curious now. Does anyone have a theory on why - Williams (actually charged) was allowed to continue his education. While VP (insufficient evidence) was not?
 
#214
#214
onevol74 said:
So, if the DA says there is no evidence or indication of guilt what would be your litmus test for allowing an innocent person to continue their freedom?

And my other question is what are you fishing for in this conversation? It seems that you are trying to push some assumptions that no one else here has privilege to. Tell us what we should know that apparently you know.

If you are saying that UT had better be careful in how it handles this situation because of the EEOC then I submit the DA's statement that this was totally handled in the proper way and based on that determination he can be enrolled and placed back on the team.
Click to expand...
what? no.

i think i've spelled out my concern. and it has nothing to do with the actual process of the investigation. i've said, the process worked. he will not be charged, and there wasn't enough evidence to do so. that in and of itself is not a bad thing, and i'm happy for Von, that this can be put behind him. and we should all be glad that the process did work itself out. that shouldn't be lost here.

my questioning here is only involving the perception of the football program and university regarding reinstating Von. and i've said several times, that it may just simply be verbiage used by the DA.

i just think it's a bit naive of us to look at this situation and not think that there won't be those that will look at us unfavorably given the 121 investigations currently going on, the incidents in the NFL, the incidents at FSU and the recent incidents we've had at UT.

i don't think it's a stretch to say that given all these factors, how the university and program responds to this news will get some attention.

make sense?
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#217
#217
My prediction is that the university won't reinstate VP before January. The real question is whether he will be back for spring practice next year...
 
#218
#218
Volstylexx said:
It's actually the opposite. Athletes get no preferential treatment from the university review process. In fact, sometimes it works against them that they are athletes because some on the review committees have a disdain for the athletic side of the university. We're a university that has athletics, not a university that exists solely to field a football team. I feel there are people (cheek) that purposively slow things down to remind people of this fact.
Click to expand...

I see what you mean, but that is such a messed up logic for a University to have. Punish a kid by making a kid wait longer just because he is an athlete? There should be a consistent policy regardless of situation.
 
#221
#221
Minibull said:
My prediction is that the university won't reinstate VP before January. The real question is whether he will be back for spring practice next year...
Click to expand...

If he isnt reinstated for this season, you can basically kiss his ass goodbye to the NFL
 
#222
#222
chargervol said:
I really am curious now. Does anyone have a theory on why - Williams (actually charged) was allowed to continue his education. While VP (insufficient evidence) was not?
Click to expand...

If he isn't reinstated ASAP the answer to this question will become very important.
 
#224
#224
chargervol said:
I really am curious now. Does anyone have a theory on why - Williams (actually charged) was allowed to continue his education. While VP (insufficient evidence) was not?
Click to expand...

I believe Williams' accuser left the university. So, there would be no issue of an unsafe learning environment for her. :dunno:
 
#225
#225
jakez4ut said:
what? no.

i think i've spelled out my concern. and it has nothing to do with the actual process of the investigation. i've said, the process worked. he will not be charged, and there wasn't enough evidence to do so. that in and of itself is not a bad thing, and i'm happy for Von, that this can be put behind him. and we should all be glad that the process did work itself out. that shouldn't be lost here.

my questioning here is only involving the perception of the football program and university regarding reinstating Von. and i've said several times, that it may just simply be verbiage used by the DA.

i just think it's a bit naive of us to look at this situation and not think that there won't be those that will look at us unfavorably given the 121 investigations currently going on, the incidents in the NFL, the incidents at FSU and the recent incidents we've had at UT.

i don't think it's a stretch to say that given all these factors, how the university and program responds to this news will get some attention.

make sense?
Click to expand...

It makes sense to me, I just feel you may be over-analyzing it a little bit. To 90% of the people out there, the verbiage used will be taken as "he is innocent", and his reinstatement will be expected.
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.
Advertisement





Back
Top