Von Pearson WILL NOT be charged

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jakez4ut said:
i appreciate the insight. and like i said, maybe i'm just stuck on the verbiage. let me ask you this though, given your formal role, if you go thru several months worth of an investigation like this, and you do come to find you can't prosecute either b/c the investigation turned up NO evidence and can't prosecute, or just that you couldn't get enough evidence to prosecute, does that change the way one might interpret a statement like this?
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Interpretation is an inconsequential activity in this. In the eyes of the law, he is innocent. Thats all that needs to be assumed or interpreted by other parties. Jmo. I understand the desire to yearn for a "she lied or he did it and got away with it" indication but that won't happen.
 
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jakez4ut said:
i appreciate the insight. and like i said, maybe i'm just stuck on the verbiage. let me ask you this though, given your formal role, if you go thru several months worth of an investigation like this, and you do come to find you can't prosecute either b/c the investigation turned up NO evidence and can't prosecute, or just that you couldn't get enough evidence to prosecute, does that change the way one might interpret a statement like this?
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So, from a legal standpoint, and I will be corrected if I misstate something, the DA will indict if, based on the evidence, it is reasonable for an investigator to believe a crime was committed. By saying "insufficient evidence," she legally means that based on the evidence, interviews, and all available information, it is UNREASONABLE (based on a reasonable persons standard) in their capacity as investigators and attorneys, to believe a crime was committed by Von.
 
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I suspect a recant by the victim. It did not come down to he said/she said, IMO.
He said/she said has gotten many a person charged.
 
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CWGvol said:
Exactly.....Its so funny watching the exact same arguments being made, its identical to the update thread...
On another note... I bet ole Anita over at the Tennessean is pissed! She has worked so hard!
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Her whole LIFE'S WORK. :lol:
 
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CWGvol said:
Exactly.....Its so funny watching the exact same arguments being made, its identical to the update thread...
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CWG, you know it's not two separate communities of people, right? The "they" over in that thread and the "we" here in this thread are all the same people. :)
 
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sanddune50 said:
Why would they not? Never heard of a guy being suspended from college for having sex with a girl. That's all we are really looking at, at this point.
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They absolutely should reinstate him. I was just saying the ball is in their court. And the time frame is another story. But with the media attention, they may act quicker to get the story to go away. Hopefully.
 
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jakez4ut said:
well, 1st, they didn't say "no evidence", just "insufficient evidence". which, and this is just me, just doesn't instill a ton of confidence that absolutely, nothing happened. i don't know what did or didn't happen. it's just the choice of wording by the DA, and generally, i think they try to choose their words carefully. i would feel alot better about all of this had they said "we found evidence supporting the claims, and will not be pursuing any criminal prosecution" or something along those lines.

2nd point, agreed 100%.

as to the original ?, what's my angle...it's simply that with the current state of affairs on college campuses, specifically in relation to football players and violence against women, the well documented issues in the NFL with the same issue......that i think UT has to tread lightly when deciding what to do next.

in all honesty, i won't have a problem if he's reinstated. but i would expect some, maybe severe, criticism given the current state of affairs.

but i won't have an issue if he's not either, i would completely understand why.
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Understand your points Jake, but what if, as the lack of evidence suggest, Von was completely innocent in this deal...please see BigOrangeTailgate's post 5-6 posts earlier. Prosecutors prosecute and for the DA to not even take the case to a grand jury is very telling IMO. While I would want justice for any young lady where the evidence validates her accusation of sexual assault, I think we're going down a very dangerous road if all she has to do is claim a crime was committed and the life of an innocent young man is put in jeopardy without the necessary proof.....especially in light of the other high profile cases that have come to light in recent years where young men were wrongfully accused.
 
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utvols88 said:
Interpretation is an inconsequential activity in this. In the eyes of the law, he is innocent. Thats all that needs to be assumed or interpreted by other parties. Jmo. I understand the desire to yearn for a "she lied or he did it and got away with it" indication but that won't happen.
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i don't have an issue with that. and look, i'm glad for Von, i don't want that to get lost here. far better for the process to work (as it apparently has) than for him to get wrongfully prosecuted.

i do still think the University and Football Program are in a precarious spot, in how they handle it now going forward.
 
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jakez4ut said:
good point.
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Exactly my point. But he is treated as though he is guilty. Only to save the name of the university. Being separated from the team is one thing. Being told not to continue his education while waiting on investigation to be completed is wrong.
 
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jakez4ut said:
to continue his football career. and as for the finding of wrongdoing, the university could still find that he broke the code of conduct, w/out having been criminally charged.
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Where is the evidence for those findings?
 
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The Vol Colonel
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@TonyBasilio if there's nothing else hanging over Pearson, he should be at practice at 6:30 this evening
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SIAP... I'm also not sure how legit this is, just thought it was worth sharing. :hi:
 
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KBVol said:
Understand your points Jake, but what if, as the lack of evidence suggest, Von was completely innocent in this deal...please see BigOrangeTailgate's post 5-6 posts earlier. Prosecutors prosecute and for the DA to not even take the case to a grand jury is very telling IMO. While I would want justice for any young lady where the evidence validates her accusation of sexual assault, I think we're going down a very dangerous road if all she has to do is claim a crime was committed and the life of an innocent young man is put in jeopardy without the necessary proof.
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agreed. and i appreciated BOT's insight...that was helpful.
 
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The evidence at hand did not support a finding of probable cause a crime was committed.
There are two requirements to bring a charge: Evidence that establishes probable cause that a crime was committed and probable cause that the defendant committed the crime.
In this case there was no doubt who the suspect was so it had to be that the DA felt the evidence did not support a probable cause finding that a crime was committed. In reality its not that simple though.....
 
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Grades, OH Yes being a Wide Receiver in college doesn't exempt you from being a Passer in the classroom
 
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onevol74 said:
Where is the evidence for those findings?
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Where was the evidence that caused Von to not be allowed on campus while Williams was?

Things don't have to make sense or the right thing to do, to take place. I'm leaning with you guys, he will be reinstated. But until that actually takes place, I'm not in full celebration mode.
 
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GBO97 said:
Great news! Now there's absolutely no excuse for him to not be reinstated soon.
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I agree. If a person is guilty of rape or something along those lines they should get what's coming to them. But seeing how he's been cleared of the charges hopefully they will get on the ball getting Vonn back in school and on the field. Its awesome to see Vonn getting cleared of this. Now Vonn can pick up the pieces and get his life and career back on line. GO VOLS!
 
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Aesius said:
Step 1. Get cleared by the Knoxville DA. CHECK!
Step 2. Get cleared by the UT PD.
Step 3. Get cleared by the UT admins.
Step 4. Get cleared by the UT student affairs council.
Step 5. Get cleared by Dave Hart.
Step 6. Get cleared by Butch Jones.
Step 7. Get cleared by Zach Azzanni.
Step 8. Get cleared by teammates.
Step 9. Get cleared by equipment managers.
Step 10. Get cleared by grounds crew.
Step 11. Get cleared by roundtable of SEC coaches.
Step 12. Get cleared by Johnny Majors after 10 whiskey sours.
Step 13. Get cleared by UN Panel on Climate Change.
Step 14. Get cleared by 9/11 Commission.
Step 15. Resume practice with team.

Almost there, fellas.
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Can't see him getting past Majors. :ermm:
 
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SIAP.: Just wanted to add this link in case it hasn't been posted already No rape charges to be filed against Vols WR Von Pearson - GoVolsXtra Story

Now, if only Preston Williams can get cleared from the NCAA. We should have a group of beasts at WR.

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i would be a little surprised if there wasn't already a contingency plan for enrollment and potential reinstatement in place should things turn out the way they have.
 
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