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Grand Vol said:
Honestly, I think it would since the same would apply in both situations. Neither are premeditated.

I don't recall a case (and I'm sure you're going to correct me if I'm wrong) of where a situation as you described ended in the death penalty. And before you start looking it up, not chasing after them down the street either. But exactly as you described.
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Wait... why not? Isn't this exactly what the situation was in SC?
 
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Grand Vol said:
What about safety situations? Violent barricaded suspects taking pot shots at bystanders and someone wants to be the first to capture those militarized cops on film and post it to YouTube?
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I think most (most meaning 95%) would probably be more than willing to forfeit their chance at Youtube fame if live rounds were going off in a situation like that. I also think most people that are critical of cops would respect the yellow police tape a barriers.

However, I can't think of am instance where cameras would need to be turned off or confiscated if the bystanders (as foolish and dangerous as it may be) are a reasonable distance away.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Unfortunately, that's not the case this day in age and you know it. People will file a lawsuit for darn near anything and if they became injured within a police cordon trying to film, you know they'll come after the department.

Doesn't mean they win, but it also is going to cost more of the public's money no matter what.
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If it would make you feel any better, I think corrupt lawyers and judges are just as big of a problem as corrupt cops. Sounds like your beef would be with the ambulance chaser representing the bystander.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I think most (most meaning 95%) would probably be more than willing to forfeit their chance at Youtube fame if live rounds were going off in a situation like that. I also think most people that are critical of cops would respect the yellow police tape a barriers.

However, I can't think of am instance where cameras would need to be turned off or confiscated if the bystanders (as foolish and dangerous as it may be) are a reasonable distance away.
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Hasn't Apple played around with the idea of giving cops the ability to shut down the camera on iPhones remotely? Indeed they have. Scary.

Apple turns ‘Big Brother’ | New York Post
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I think most (most meaning 95%) would probably be more than willing to forfeit their chance at Youtube fame if live rounds were going off in a situation like that. I also think most people that are critical of cops would respect the yellow police tape a barriers.

However, I can't think of am instance where cameras would need to be turned off or confiscated if the bystanders (as foolish and dangerous as it may be) are a reasonable distance away.
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Your faith in the lack of stupidity of some people is touching. Misplaced as it is, but touching.

But you keyed in on a key element here. "Reasonable distance." I won't disagree that from a reasonable (safe) distance from something going on recording shouldn't be hampered. But you do agree that sometimes (your 5%) people can be a hindrance and hamper efforts by attempting to record, correct?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I go back to if this were a civilian.

If a civilian shoots a guy in the back that is leaving his home after a forced entry/break in, will the scales of justice weigh my deed the same as the cops?
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Yes u don't get 1st degree murder unless it's premeditated.....find a case where that has happened
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
If it would make you feel any better, I think corrupt lawyers and judges are just as big of a problem as corrupt cops. Sounds like your beef would be with the ambulance chaser representing the bystander.
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No, I would have an issue with both actually. The ambulance chaser that is trying to make a buck (and likely would) and the idiot that doesn't have enough sense to get out of a danger zone and, in turn, putting cops at risk trying to get them out. All very likely while screaming "police brutality, hands up, don't shoot, don't tase me bro" or equally stupid ****.
 
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Grand Vol said:
No, I would have an issue with both actually. The ambulance chaser that is trying to make a buck (and likely would) and the idiot that doesn't have enough sense to get out of a danger zone and, in turn, putting cops at risk trying to get them out. All very likely while screaming "police brutality, hands up, don't shoot, don't tase me bro" or equally stupid ****.
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Yeah I have issue with all idiots
 
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Dr Dread said:
Don't get your panties in a wad. Used caps to emphasize how strongly I disagree. Would you also suggest that civilians should be able to request officers turn off dash cams?
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Panties are unwadded.

Question would be how many drivers would request such a thing?
 
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#VFL__ said:
SCOTUS: Police can't extend traffic stop for dog sniff - POLITICO.com

"GOP-appointees Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito and Anthony Kennedy dissented, saying that the stop's total duration of about 29 minutes was reasonable, so any delay due to the dog issue did not run afoul of the Constitution."

"Thomas and Alito also said that various other observations—like an overpowering smell of air freshener in the car—meant that the officer had reasonable suspicion to conduct the dog sniff anyway. However, Kennedy did not go along with that point."

Hmmm smells like freedom in here. Let me harass you and search your car. "SMALL GOVERNMENT"
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Cop: So... where you headin'?
Civilian: Am I under arrest?
Cop: You sassin' me, boy?

I'm sure this ruling will stop Buford T. Justice dead in his tracks on a 2 lane road at 2:00 a.m.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Yep, getting harder and harder. For the record, I don't seek this stuff out, it's sent to me. It really wears on a guy who believes in freedom.

EXCLUSIVE VIDEO: Dashcam video shows unarmed man being shot by PBSO deputy - wptv.com

"Stop what you're doing and comply with us,” he told reporters. "There's nothing in the rules of engagement that says we have to put our lives in jeopardy to wait to find out what this is to get killed."
Smdh.
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Saw this one
As it turned out, Stephens had a cell phone, but no weapon.

Lin can later be heard explaining to another deputy what happened.

“He starts backing away,” Lin says of encounter. “I said, ‘Get on the ground, get on the ground.’”
“I got your back man,” the second deputy assures Lin. “I got your back. Hey, you hear me?”
“Yeah, I know,” Lin replies.

In a televised press conference later that day, Sheriff Ric Bradshaw warned suspects to “top what you’re doing and comply with us.”

“There’s nothing in the rules of engagement that says we have to put our lives in jeopardy to wait to find out what this is to get killed,” the sheriff insisted.
Within four days, Lin had been cleared to return to duty. And the State Attorney’s Office and PBSO internal affairs later ruled that the shooting was justified.


Sheriff Bradshaw has refused to address the dashcam video, saying that department policy does not allow him to comment on pending lawsuits.

Since the shooting, Stephens has been paralyzed from the waist down.
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I find it interesting how the police were quick to make a statement the day of the shooting, but now that the video is out they are refusing to comment…
 
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Mentally Ill Homeless Man Severely Beaten By Police Because His Beach Umbrella was Too Big
In the video taken on August 7, 2014, eight officers are seen brutalizing Samuel Calhoun Arrington, 52, who suffers from bipolar disorder. The incident began when he reportedly refused to sign a citation for “items placed on (the) city beach” and “property outside of designated space.”

What horrible items could have had on the beach, you ask? A chair and umbrella, which everyone else brings to the beach all summer long without being targeted for assault.

“He was hospitalized and later charged with felony resisting arrest and remained in county jail for over one month on the charges,” Haysbert wrote in a letter to the FBI.

To throw salt on wounds, the callous officers also left the man’s few personal possessions on the beach and never recovered them, including his clothing, bicycle, bookbag, and medical card.

Haysbert has also stated that Arrington was brutalized by the officers on two other occasions that year.

On January 5, Arrington was tased and beaten by LAPD officers. Several months later, on July 29, less than two weeks before the incident seen in this video, he was hospitalized with neck, back, and shoulder injuries. His lawyer claims these were the very same officers seen on video in the August assault.
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Felony resisting arrest? That really is a thing? Maybe Tim & Co. should move to California
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Cop: So... where you headin'?
Civilian: Am I under arrest?
Cop: You sassin' me, boy?

I'm sure this ruling will stop Buford T. Justice dead in his tracks on a 2 lane road at 2:00 a.m.
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See bold..

correct answer: To church officer I have to pray.

Conclusion? Slow down


See..when you become an a-hole to a cop right away..and lets not forget they are a-holes..you're just gonna get sh!t on.

1. Obey the law
2. Turn that sh!t down
3. Never ride with an angry woman
4. get a white friend
 
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BartW said:
Saw this one

I find it interesting how the police were quick to make a statement the day of the shooting, but now that the video is out they are refusing to comment…
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Lets disband the police and let citizens police themselves!!

I am ALL FOR IT! I look forward to introducing Officer Benelli to many a democrat.
 
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volbeast33 said:
If I see a different video then I might feel diffrently about it......the ones I have seen, she is standing just a few ft behind the cops involved in arresting the gang members. I still find it very interesting that the person that shot the video had it trained on the woman the whole time instead of the cops arresting the gang members.
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Caught On Video: U.S. Marshal Grabs Woman’s Cellphone, Smashes It On Ground « CBS Los Angeles
In the part of the video were the reporter is standing in front of the house were the bikers were being detained, you can't see the house the lady was standing in front of. Not even when they aim the camera about 3 houses down. The reporter even states that the woman was at least 4 houses away.

The woman filming stated that she was filming for a few minutes when the cops noticed her and started moving towards her. At this point she says she started making statements about how she didn't feel safe with them moving so close to her, and how she was feeling threatened.

These comments could have very well got the attention of the other person filming, which could explain why they started filming her.

She appeared to be totally unaware of the cop that snuck up on her and snatched her phone.
 

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FLVOL_79 said:
Lets disband the police and let citizens police themselves!!

I am ALL FOR IT! I look forward to introducing Officer Benelli to many a democrat.
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But then who will arrest all of the rolling stop sign violators, loose cigarette sellers, big beach umbrella carriers and half ounce of dope possessors? This world would go into chaos...
 
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