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Grand Vol said:
The only reason to pick up the Taser was to secure it.

And yet, he put it back down right next to the body. You don't mess up anything within a crime scene. And all deadly force situations become automatic crime scenes. You leave all the evidence where it is (unless it poses an immediate threat to the public) to be recorded, cataloged and tagged.
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Exactly.
 
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The only question that needs to be asked in the Slager case is, which form of Capitol punishment he prefers. Injection or electricity.
 
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Grand Vol said:
The only reason to pick up the Taser was to secure it.

And yet, he put it back down right next to the body. You don't mess up anything within a crime scene. And all deadly force situations become automatic crime scenes. You leave all the evidence where it is (unless it poses an immediate threat to the public) to be recorded, cataloged and tagged.
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Oh I agree....I was just saying there was a version not that I believed it
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
How silly of me to suggest one of the states enforcers would be subjected to the same treatment given to us.

I should know better you'd think.
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It is a valid point. At best, it'll be voluntary manslaughter. I'm not sure of the applicable SC laws for 2nd degree murder, but it could go that way as well. It will be hard to justify premeditation for that.

One thing for certain, I doubt it will be any kind of reduced sentence.
 
#5,966
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Grand Vol said:
It is a valid point. At best, it'll be voluntary manslaughter. I'm not sure of the applicable SC laws for 2nd degree murder, but it could go that way as well. It will be hard to justify premeditation for that.

One thing for certain, I doubt it will be any kind of reduced sentence.
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They won't go easy on him
 
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volbeast33 said:
Who said it was a rolling stop and the guy ran bc he wasn't legally allowed to be driving at all.
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I don't know where you got that the guy couldn't legally drive, but here is the story.

High-Speed Pursuit Ends With Karate Kick | Officer.com

Steven Gaydos didn't see anyone when he blew through a stop sign on his motorcycle "out in the middle of nowhere" just past midnight on Dec. 23, 2012. But parked in the shadows of the intersection in unincorporated Chambers County was a Texas Department of Public Safety trooper. He pulled in behind the 25-year-old's Suzuki 750 and started following.

"I knew it was a cop," Gaydos said later. "I took off, thinking I could easily lose him." Nearly 40 miles later, however, after a hair-raising chase over Chambers and Harris county highways that reached speeds of 130 mph, Gaydos lay on the side of a residential road just outside of Houston -- shot in the thigh and then karate kicked off his bike by another state trooper who'd joined the chase.

The trooper, Abraham Martinez, last year received a minor penalty for the incident -- three days off without pay. Yet the fact that a traffic infraction could escalate into a lengthy, high-speed motorcycle pursuit ending in gun shots provides graphic illustration of how DPS's relatively permissive use-of-force restrictions during pursuits is out of step with evolving national standards, experts said. The nation's leading researcher on police pursuits, University of South Carolina criminal justice Professor Geoffrey Alpert, called the agency's policy permitting troopers to shoot at fleeing vehicles "stupid."
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Grand Vol said:
See above. Plus the potential tainting of a jury could come into play at that point as well. Or potential destruction of evidence by someone that just "has" to record everything going on.

Just some generic situations. I'm curious if the police should have the ability to request video not be taken in certain cases. Not a blanket coverall and certainly not tossing down a camera phone and destroy it, but in some cases should it be allowed?
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NO
 
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volbeast33 said:
I think it's got to be premeditated to be eligible for capital punishment
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I go back to if this were a civilian.

If a civilian shoots a guy in the back that is leaving his home after a forced entry/break in, will the scales of justice weigh my deed the same as the cops?
 
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Grand Vol said:
Different situation entirely, although in principle I agree what a major Charlie-Fox that was from tip to tail.

And the same reason I won't ever buy any HS Precision products. Ever...
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It's still execution by the state any way you look at it. I knew you'd get the reference.

lon horiuchi is trash plain and simple.

For those unaware.

Lon Horiuchi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I go back to if this were a civilian.

If a civilian shoots a guy in the back that is leaving his home after a forced entry/break in, will the scales of justice weigh my deed the same as the cops?
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Honestly, I think it would since the same would apply in both situations. Neither are premeditated.

I don't recall a case (and I'm sure you're going to correct me if I'm wrong) of where a situation as you described ended in the death penalty. And before you start looking it up, not chasing after them down the street either. But exactly as you described.
 
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Grand Vol said:
See above. Plus the potential tainting of a jury could come into play at that point as well. Or potential destruction of evidence by someone that just "has" to record everything going on.

Just some generic situations. I'm curious if the police should have the ability to request video not be taken in certain cases. Not a blanket coverall and certainly not tossing down a camera phone and destroy it, but in some cases should it be allowed?
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Give a valid reason why the police would NEED (not WANT) to make such a request?
 
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