DeBord is coming (merged)

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DaddyChad said:
Everyone is a gamble.

Debord is less a gamble than hiring someone he didn't know and having a more major shakeup of the coaching staff. Both of which would happen if anyone else was the hire.
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Now that I whole heartily agree with you on. Also if the rumors are true about CZA that's plus as well.
 
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sarahliko said:
From a friend who is a Michigan fan: "DeBord is widely disliked by Michigan fans for running the most predictable offenses of the Lloyd Carr era ("When Mike Debord plays rock-paper-scissors, he always picks rock."). He was also the OC when Michigan shredded the Gators in 2007 (when Florida had Tebow and Urban) and that offensive game plan was great. Maybe he's learned?"
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...and that predictable offense during his time netted Michigan a national championship and a 52-11 overall record. :crazy::crazy::crazy:
 
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sjt18 said:
Probably right... but not the smart money.

For the most part, we criticize things that have happened... not things that we speculate.

Hendrix left the program and most likely because of his relationship with the staff. They didn't want to lose him... and he would have contributed. That happened and was worthy of criticism.... as did the Vandy loss and the two UF losses.

DeBord may or may not fail... but none of the handwringers have any way of "knowing" that he will fail.
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Do you have to be classified as a "hand-wringer" for simply wanting someone who has actually called plays in the past year or so (let alone the past 8)? That's too much to ask, is it?
 
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SobeVol said:
Do you want your son to end up with the "comfortable" girl or the prom queen?
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I think the point is Butch wanted the offense to remain his system, and hiring someone else would have meant Butch having to let that O.C. run what he wants rather than what Butch wants. Also making Azzani Co O.C. or passing game coordinator keeps him on staff.

I can understand Butch's thinking and it has a pretty good chance of working seeing as he will just be running the same system.
 
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KCVolLaw said:
reg·u·lar
ˈreɡyələr/
adjective

happening in such a pattern with the same time between individual instances; recurring at short uniform intervals.

done or happening frequently.
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if you have to debate the merits of a hire based upon the definition of "indication" and "regular" then you have already lost.
Regular patterns can have any time between them as long as the duration is constant.... Like the Iceages occur in a regular pattern.
Aren't you a lawyer?
You can do better than this!
 
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GAVol said:
The crowd thinks every throw under 5 yards is a screen and kept Hee Haw on the air for 20 years.
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Mike DeBoring called plays on Hee-Haw? I can believe that.

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SobeVol said:
With a different coach and qb style!
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Perhaps but if you watch that beat down of UF you'll see some definite similarities in their offense and ours. I know it was a close game in score but UM dominated that game offensively; they overcame 4 turnovers to beat UF. That was a revised gameplan because Debord knew they couldn't beat UF with the offense they had run through the regular season. Carr took the shackles off and Debord won that game for UM. I will take a coach like that all day any day. Add to that Debord has extensive experience on the Oline and this is a solid hire.

If we hired Sanford the board would be falling all over themselves to compliment him. The last imported OC from Boise didn't work out for UF and he had a more extensive and impressive resume than Sanford. Guys just have a little patience before you eviscerate someone. At best you're going to have to eat crow at worst you may blow a blood vessel.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Perhaps but if you watch that beat down of UF you'll see some definite similarities in their offense and ours. I know it was a close game in score but UM dominated that game offensively; they overcame 4 turnovers to beat UF. That was a revised gameplan because Debord knew they couldn't beat UF with the offense they had run through the regular season. Carr took the shackles off and Debord won that game for UM. I will take a coach like that all day any day. Add to that Debord has extensive experience on the Oline and this is a solid hire.

If we hired Sanford the board would be falling all over themselves to compliment him. The last imported OC from Boise didn't work out for UF and he had a more extensive and impressive resume than Sanford. Guys just have a little patience before you eviscerate someone. At best you're going to have to eat crow at worst you may blow a blood vessel.
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I pray you are correct!
 
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#567
Good hire? Bad hire? I don't know. It's not my job to know.

So far Butch has impressed in the various parts of being an HC. I'm willing to go along.

I do suspect that it will be more complicated than just hiring DeBord. There will likely be a significant realignment of the staff. I doubt our very promising QBs will be left to the tender mercies of a GA.

There are some posters saying Butch didn't make the announcement to keep from hurting recruiting or some other such nonsense. Bat feces. The recruits and the fans needed to have NSD stand on its own. It needed to be enjoyed on its own. It would be stupid to combine such different news items. They should not have competed with each other for attention.
 
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TVA said:
Good hire? Bad hire? I don't know. It's not my job to know.

So far Butch has impressed in the various parts of being an HC. I'm willing to go along.

I do suspect that it will be more complicated than just hiring DeBord. There will likely be a significant realignment of the staff. I doubt our very promising QBs will be left to the tender mercies of a GA.

There are some posters saying Butch didn't make the announcement to keep from hurting recruiting or some other such nonsense. Bat feces. The recruits and the fans needed to have NSD stand on its own. It needed to be enjoyed on its own. It would be stupid to combine such different news items. They should not have competed with each other for attention.
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I agree the recruiting deserved it's own celebration!
He had two weeks to announce!
He stalled it.
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Debord did have a 1400 yard rusher twice

Thats a positive

He also had 3 passers over 2500 yards

Another positive

He had 1 1000 yard receiver

Another positive
 
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volnpowell said:
I think the point is Butch wanted the offense to remain his system, and hiring someone else would have meant Butch having to let that O.C. run what he wants rather than what Butch wants. Also making Azzani Co O.C. or passing game coordinator keeps him on staff.

I can understand Butch's thinking and it has a pretty good chance of working seeing as he will just be running the same system.
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Yes!!!!! CBJ has worked too hard the last couple of years building this thing up. If he were to hire an OC that would want complete control to run "his" offense, his plan would most likely take a step back. The way you keep moving forward is you stay on the same path. I don't think Debord is the long-term answer, so debating very far into the future is futile. CBJ is looking at these next 2 years as being extremely pivotal in his time here and establishing something. You can't risk one of those 2 years installing a new system.
 
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