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Like I asked, where do you draw the line? So we can't make any reference to last year at all? What about the offseason?
It's all jmo and not my line to draw for others. Just sayin the talk about failures of the previous years has no bearing on success or failure in 2012 and is a fruitless topic. I mean, how often does the ky game need to be discussed?
The offseason is key to 2012. 2011 isn't.
Yeah makes sense now that I think about it. Why watch those films and risk losing confidence you have worked all spring to build up. :hi:
No. With the exact same group of players. I'm not making a sweeping generalization here. I referenced a specific instance.
I'm confused. Are you talking about DD, Wilcox, and other staff along with the 3 sr leaders in Poole, Malik, Austin and freshmen db's and lb's and the 5 soph OL not making adjustments in 2011?
Or are you talking about DD, Sal, and 6 other new staff members along with upperclassmen in the OL, at wr, at qb, at DL and more experienced young talent not making adjustments this fall?
Totally different team man and we will all find out if it's going to work out or not.
I wasn't talking about any of that. I referenced a specific instance about last season. You are the one who started throwing around generalizations about dwelling in the past.
To help you out, my OP was sourcing the inability of the offensive staff (mainly Chaney) to adapt to the circumstances that faced the team prior to the UGA game. I stated that is was worrisome that after 3 weeks of preparation, we made no attempt to do anything on offense that would be considered adapting to the situation.
-we didn't bring in 4 sr badass OL to block during the game?
-we didn't put Trent Richardson in the backfield instead of Poole?
-we didn't throw it to #11 on crutches
-our backup qb's couldn't get it done with no blocking, no running back and Z Rogers as the only open man?
And btw, I really haven't liked Chaney and some of his game plans anyway, but I would like to know what you expected him to do against Ga with worley/simms finishing the game, poole in the backfield, Stone snapping snaps on the ground, d rogers getting doubled and z rogers and true freshmen on the outside. What adjustments does he make. We were outmanned and outgunned, which is why we couldn't put it in the endzone.
I wasn't talking about any of that. I referenced a specific instance about last season. You are the one who started throwing around generalizations about dwelling in the past.
To help you out, my OP was sourcing the inability of the offensive staff (mainly Chaney) to adapt to the circumstances that faced the team prior to the UGA game. I stated that is was worrisome that after 3 weeks of preparation, we made no attempt to do anything on offense that would be considered adapting to the situation.
-we didn't bring in 4 sr badass OL to block during the game?
-we didn't put Trent Richardson in the backfield instead of Poole?
-we didn't throw it to #11 on crutches
-our backup qb's couldn't get it done with no blocking, no running back and Z Rogers as the only open man?
And btw, I really haven't liked Chaney and some of his game plans anyway, but I would like to know what you expected him to do against Ga with worley/simms finishing the game, poole in the backfield, Stone snapping snaps on the ground, d rogers getting doubled and z rogers and true freshmen on the outside. What adjustments does he make. We were outmanned and outgunned, which is why we couldn't put it in the endzone.
And btw, I really haven't liked Chaney and some of his game plans anyway, but I would like to know what you expected him to do against Ga with worley/simms finishing the game, poole in the backfield, Stone snapping snaps on the ground, d rogers getting doubled and z rogers and true freshmen on the outside. What adjustments does he make. We were outmanned and outgunned, which is why we couldn't put it in the endzone.
Wasn't it 6-6 at the half and we had two pretty good drives? Both of you are 1st class posters, play nice!
We ran the exact same offense as if Justin Hunter was still playing. The only difference was that Zack Rogers isn't Justin Hunter.
We had three weeks to focus on a way to move the ball without JH in the lineup, but we didn't change anything.
We had the same OL and RB as the year before, when Poole went for over 1000 yards. We had the necessary personnel to do something other than run the same offense as if nothing had happened. Chaney failed to adapt the the new changing circumstances and had nearly a month to do it.
The offensive failures was with the starters, minus JH11. The game was lost when we failed to move the ball more than 20 yards on 5 straight possessions. Simms wasn't playing then yet.
We ran the exact same offense as if Justin Hunter was still playing. The only difference was that Zack Rogers isn't Justin Hunter.
We had three weeks to focus on a way to move the ball without JH in the lineup, but we didn't change anything.
We had the same OL and RB as the year before, when Poole went for over 1000 yards. We had the necessary personnel to do something other than run the same offense as if nothing had happened. Chaney failed to adapt the the new changing circumstances and had nearly a month to do it.
The offensive failures was with the starters, minus JH11. The game was lost when we failed to move the ball more than 20 yards on 5 straight possessions. Simms wasn't playing then yet.
I don't disagree with anything you said. My question is, what should he have done?
I think we could have dinked and dunked them a little, but with the OL and lack of outside depth, you are probably looking at a turnover or two trying to throw quick across the middle with a confused line, or a screen or 2 with a slow Poole getting hit 7 yds deep.
The OL issues will be fixed with upperclassmen on the field. Those guys had noone to lead them in the trenches during the game because noone had confidence to lead. If it looks the same, Dooley should leave.
It won't.
To reiterate. I don't disagree with your assessment because I had the same one for awhile. But, it's hard to change your offensive plan for the year, the plan you've been trying to perfect since spring practice, during the game or even 3 weeks prior, especially when you have very little that you can go to. You saw Poole run last year. He missed cut after cut and just didn't run well when he did have a little space.
Chaney gets paid good money to find things that work. When one player, a WR even, gets injured, your entire offense should not collapse. He HAS to change something. The situation has changed, so there has to be some adjustment.
I can't answer what he should have done, because I'm not qualified to make that assessment, but he HAD to attempt to do something. Yet, he kept trotting out the same thing for the rest of the year. Even, to an extent, when Bray went down. Chaney stuck with the offense he wanted to at the beginning of the year, injuries be damned. It is easy to see that we didn't have the personnel to run what he wanted, so figure something out.
And I won't get into it again, but the change of OL blocking scheme from year 1 to 2 has to go down as one of the stupidest decisions of the Dooley era so far. Not saying that it was CDD decision, but whoever made that choice should have been slapped when they suggested it.
So, you are not qualified to offer solutions, but you are qualified to offer criticism?
I'm just asking questions here.
But what you are saying is: "I'm do not understand the comlexities of the offense, what he had at his disposal, the amount fo pre-season work that they had done working on x, y, or z, or what his remaining personnel was capable of. He just needed to change something."
I must say, I was intently interested in your answers to these questions because these were the exact answers that I expected.
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