The (many) indictments of Donald Trump

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luthervol said:
21% of liberals and 15% of conservatives believed that.
That's what you're hanging your hat on?
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Remember conservatives are the uneducated ones and liberals are the smart ones....so using basic logic, shouldn't conservatives be falling for the misinformation like this at not only a higher rate but I'd argue much given our lack of education.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Remember conservatives are the uneducated ones and liberals are the smart ones....so using basic logic, shouldn't conservatives be falling for the misinformation like this at not only a higher rate but I'd argue much given our lack of education.
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What's the misinformation here? People believe a lot of things that are not factual. SEE MAGA.
 
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luthervol said:
21% of liberals and 15% of conservatives believed that.
That's what you're hanging your hat on?
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I think the bigger takeaway is the further right you went, the closer to an accurate representation of reality was found. Now apply that to Trump generally or 1/6 in particular and you will find the same thing.
 
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volgr said:
I think the bigger takeaway is the further right you went, the closer to an accurate representation of reality was found. Now apply that to Trump generally or 1/6 in particular and you will find the same thing.
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To a degree - but nowhere near the same degree.
www.nbcnews.com

Almost a third of Americans still believe the 2020 election result was fraudulent

There's no evidence widespread fraud affected the outcome of the 2020 election, but Trump and allies have spent years undercutting the election's legitimacy.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

Virtually all Democrats (93%) say Biden won the election fairly, a view shared by 58% of independents. Just 21% of Republicans believe Biden won his election fair and square, while 68% say he won "due to voter fraud."
 
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luthervol said:
Virtually all Democrats (93%) say Biden won the election fairly, a view shared by 58% of independents. Just 21% of Republicans believe Biden won his election fair and square, while 68% say he won "due to voter fraud."
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That is a boatload full of delusion going on there.
 
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luthervol said:
Virtually all Democrats (93%) say Biden won the election fairly
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Again, this directly correlates to media creating a false reality. Biden didnt fairly win the 2020 election. He fulfilled the Constitutional requirements to be President amd thus is the President, but he didnt win a fair election. No rational person believes that.
 
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volgr said:
Again, this directly correlates to media creating a false reality. Biden didnt fairly win the 2020 election. He fulfilled the Constitutional requirements to be President amd thus is the President, but he didnt win a fair election. No rational person believes that.
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Sure he did. And only the delusional victims of gaslighting believe he did not.
You're continually proving my point.
 
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volgr said:
Again, this directly correlates to media creating a false reality. Biden didnt fairly win the 2020 election. He fulfilled the Constitutional requirements to be President amd thus is the President, but he didnt win a fair election. No rational person believes that.
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Trump's base....MAGA....are the rational people?
 
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volgr said:
Again, this directly correlates to media creating a false reality. Biden didnt fairly win the 2020 election. He fulfilled the Constitutional requirements to be President amd thus is the President, but he didnt win a fair election. No rational person believes that.
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The only irrational people are those stupid enough to be conned by the gangster. There are irrational morons in America, and the go by MAGA.
 
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volgr said:
And Democrats who tried to keep Trump off the ballot wouldnt be trying to fraudulently steal an election. Come on.
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Of course they wouldn't.
Attempting to legally keep someone off of a ballot and trying to fraudulently steal an election are worlds apart.

What kind of mind would believe that a willingness to do the first would naturally indicate a willingness to do the second?

That's kind of telling,.... don't you think?
 
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luthervol said:
Of course they wouldn't.
Attempting to legally keep someone off of a ballot and trying to fraudulently steal an election are worlds apart.

What kind of mind would believe that a willingness to do the first would naturally indicate a willingness to do the second?

That's kind of telling,.... don't you think?
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Weird how you excuse one as a legal attempt but not the other.
 
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volgr said:
Weird how you excuse one as a legal attempt but not the other.
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Nothing weird at all. The challenge to the gangster's candidacy in the state was a fair legal challenge--so much so that the original court case was won. There was nothing legal or valid about the gangster's court cases--nearly all of which were promptly thrown out and were only pursued in the first place because a handful of feckless lawyers were either happy to follow the gangster's lies and orders because it meant more money (via legal billings) for them, and more they were just brainwashed and stupid. Their careers/lives are all in a state of ruin. They had NO evidence--the lawyers have admitted it--and it was all just a transparently fraudulent attempt to steal an election (under the guise of conning the rubes into thinking the opposite).
 
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turbovol said:
Nothing weird at all. The challenge to the gangster's candidacy in the state was a fair legal challenge--so much so that the original court case was won. There was nothing legal or valid about the gangster's court cases--nearly all of which were promptly thrown out and were only pursued in the first place because a handful of feckless lawyers were either happy to follow the gangster's lies and orders because it meant more money (via legal billings) for them, and more they were just brainwashed and stupid. Their careers/lives are all in a state of ruin. They had NO evidence--the lawyers have admitted it--and it was all just a transparently fraudulent attempt to steal an election (under the guise of conning the rubes into thinking the opposite).
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They were overturned 9-0 by the SCOTUS and they almost never go 9-0. This was a fringe legal theory as well.

Yes, Trump's fringe legal theories were either thrown out or not acted on. So, where was the harm? The system worked as it theoretically should. Why the lawfare?
 
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volgr said:
Another good example of gaslighting by our western propaganda media....
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Another good example of MAGA gaslighting by our western propaganda media.... followed by another MAGA Rep doing the same and not smart enough to admit he was wrong.
These are not the kind of people we need in DC.




Pot calling kettle black. Simple answer they are both black. He later stuck with his statement and doubled down look at his twitter feed. Should have just deleted it. Fools in Congress should be called out by the media.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Another good example of MAGA gaslighting by our western propaganda media.... followed by another MAGA Rep doing the same and not smart enough to admit he was wrong.
These are not the kind of people we need in DC.




Pot calling kettle black. Simple answer they are both black. He later stuck with his statement and doubled down look at his twitter feed. Should have just deleted it. Fools in Congress should be called out by the media.
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This was a singular Rep, this wasnt a coordinated gaslighting by major propaganda media.
 
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