I'm speaking as a Vol fan from the Millennial generation. My generation is tired of old white retreads making all of the decisions regarding coaching hires, coaching firings, financial decisions etc. We need a youth movement in all areas of our athletic administration from the BOT down to the waterboy on the team. We are a generation that is used to expressing our valuable opinions on social media and effecting change with those opinions. We do not like or appreciate top down, authoritative decision making from out of touch old white men when it has a huge effect on the world we live in. We as a generation understand the times better than those over age 45 and it is high time that we are given our due in the decision making on the Hill. Not only here but across this country in all areas of social, political, financial and religious areas of society. We are the future and we are a special generation who has arrived at just the right time to move this country and the world in a better direction based on our vision for the future.
I posted this in another thread. It's time to let the younger generation take the lead in this. We are Retread U with Fulmer and now possibly Miles. We need both an under forty coach and AD and administration for that matter. The future is now for the Millennial generation and we should be given the reins for the good of the school and athletic department.
I liked your first post, this one was surprisingly weak. The same argument could be made in reverse:
Old folks think the same old is all that works.
Before you Make assumptions, Im not a millennial and older than most on this board. I watched faithfully during the Fulmer era. I also was aware of a bit more behind the scenes at that time so maybe thats tainted me and who knows if its true or not. I understand why some people like Fulmer but maybe I value fresh and exciting over the same old UT cycle.
As for the Gruden comments who said I thought Gruden was coming?
Time has a way of fogging the memory.
I'm speaking as a Vol fan from the Millennial generation. My generation is tired of old white retreads making all of the decisions regarding coaching hires, coaching firings, financial decisions etc. We need a youth movement in all areas of our athletic administration from the BOT down to the waterboy on the team. We are a generation that is used to expressing our valuable opinions on social media and effecting change with those opinions. We do not like or appreciate top down, authoritative decision making from out of touch old white men when it has a huge effect on the world we live in. We as a generation understand the times better than those over age 45 and it is high time that we are given our due in the decision making on the Hill. Not only here but across this country in all areas of social, political, financial and religious areas of society. We are the future and we are a special generation who has arrived at just the right time to move this country and the world in a better direction based on our vision for the future.
I posted this in another thread. It's time to let the younger generation take the lead in this. We are Retread U with Fulmer and now possibly Miles. We need both an under forty coach and AD and administration for that matter. The future is now for the Millennial generation and we should be given the reins for the good of the school and athletic department.
Pure male bovine feces! Micromanagement was not a problem. The problem was that the power money (spelled H A S L A M) would not pony up control of the assistants and coordinators. The micromanagement charge is misplaced.
Hiring Rick Barnes worked pretty well so far. And whatever you think you know about Fulmer is a lie, he's a very good man that truly loves UT.
I understand what youre saying. I really do and you make a lot of sense. But wouldnt you want what we had here 15 years ago instead of what we have now? Les is a proven guy and will be the stabilizer before the real guy (Tee) is put into place. Pretty sure Chavis will be back too. And at this point that may be our best plan. Get some people who love this place the way we do. And they are by no means incompetent. Settle everything down. And if Tee is involved at all then you can bet its with a concrete plan to make him the HC in some matter of time. Im good with it.Ok so this will rub people the wrong way but Im looking for some decent feedback. First, Fulmer doesnt excite me at all - in fact, its the opposite. It feels old and stale. In addition, what little insider info I have on him isnt good (this was from when he was fired). Hes power hungry and always has been in my opinion (which means Gruden is out for all the Grudenites). Regardless, he hasnt been involved in college football in a decade, no one hired him after he was fired, and now hes rumored to be looking at Les Miles - who also went unhired after being fired (and LSU seems to be doing fine without him).
So what Im asking is - why does hiring retreads that didnt get hired by anyone else feel exciting? Because Fulmer bleeds orange? I bleed orange and I have no business near an AD office or football field.
I fear Fulmer is on a power run to get back everyone that wronged him when he was fired. Thats the wrong motivation. He has no attachment to younger coaches or fan bases. In the end, he doesnt excite me and neither does Les Miles.
It feels like Retread University.
I'm going to use a medical analogy here. If you look at the most successful hospital systems in the country, you'll find they have hired physicians as CEOs, rather than MBAs or accountants or lawyers.
Why is that? The most likely reason is that a physician has worked within a hospital system, delivering care to patients, working next to others involved in healthcare delivery. In short, the physician "gets it."
This is what we're getting by having someone like Fulmer at the helm, rather than Currie or Hart or Hamilton. Fulmer has coached, knows what it takes to win, and knows how to relate to those involved in coaching athletes.
He's not here to coach anymore, as he plainly said, so the fact that he was fired on the tail end of a Hall of Fame career isn't really pertinent. Nor is the fact that he's not coached since. He still has that experience, which should serve him well in his new role.
Does he have certain political allegiances within the university? No doubt, but who doesn't. Currie was clearly Haslam's lackey, and we see where that got us.
I'm going to give Fulmer a chance, and I'm betting we won't be disappointed.
I understand what youre saying. I really do and you make a lot of sense. But wouldnt you want what we had here 15 years ago instead of what we have now? Les is a proven guy and will be the stabilizer before the real guy (Tee) is put into place. Pretty sure Chavis will be back too. And at this point that may be our best plan. Get some people who love this place the way we do. And they are by no means incompetent. Settle everything down. And if Tee is involved at all then you can bet its with a concrete plan to make him the HC in some matter of time. Im good with it.
Ok so this will rub people the wrong way but Im looking for some decent feedback. First, Fulmer doesnt excite me at all - in fact, its the opposite. It feels old and stale. In addition, what little insider info I have on him isnt good (this was from when he was fired). Hes power hungry and always has been in my opinion (which means Gruden is out for all the Grudenites). Regardless, he hasnt been involved in college football in a decade, no one hired him after he was fired, and now hes rumored to be looking at Les Miles - who also went unhired after being fired (and LSU seems to be doing fine without him).
So what Im asking is - why does hiring retreads that didnt get hired by anyone else feel exciting? Because Fulmer bleeds orange? I bleed orange and I have no business near an AD office or football field.
I fear Fulmer is on a power run to get back everyone that wronged him when he was fired. Thats the wrong motivation. He has no attachment to younger coaches or fan bases. In the end, he doesnt excite me and neither does Les Miles.
It feels like Retread University.
I understand what youre saying. I really do and you make a lot of sense. But wouldnt you want what we had here 15 years ago instead of what we have now? Les is a proven guy and will be the stabilizer before the real guy (Tee) is put into place. Pretty sure Chavis will be back too. And at this point that may be our best plan. Get some people who love this place the way we do. And they are by no means incompetent. Settle everything down. And if Tee is involved at all then you can bet its with a concrete plan to make him the HC in some matter of time. Im good with it.
So is the idea that Fulmer was sabotaged. Actually it's pathetically funny that some people still refuse to place blame squarely where it sits. Even Fulmer himself, won't acknowledge the slide that started at the 2001 SECCG