Iran deal unlikely: what's next?

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theFallGuy said:
the hilarious part is they will violate Obama's own law. It's absurd.
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He's already violated his own laws with Obamacare. I think he gets a kick out of being a law breaker. He's puoosefully creating anarchy to get what he wants.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
The SWIFT system has a Russian/Chinese alternative, which is again one of the reasons why sanctions on Iran will soon be even less effective than before. The West/US will no longer be able to freeze assets or throw their weight around much longer...
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Meanwhile, the West continues to use terrorism as a backdoor way to monitor transactions and control capital.

Europe needs access to SWIFT payments data to combat militants - France

PARIS (Reuters) - European authorities need to be able to tap into data from the SWIFT bank payments network under a push to clamp down on the financing of militant groups, French Finance Minister Michel Sapin said on Monday.

Sapin said SWIFT - the world's biggest electronic payments system - had two computer servers, one in Europe and the other in the United States. However, Europe currently relied on U.S. authorities to collect and analyze the vast amounts of data flowing through the system to detect security issues.
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The four American prisoners at the heart of some criticisms of the Iranian deal have now been released in exchange for the dropping of sanctions against seven Iranians.

Iran: U.S. prisoners Jason Rezaian, Amir Hekmati, Saeed Abedini, one other freed - CNN.com

I suspected at the time that this was most likely an off-the-table, backdoor agreement that was really a part of the deal but would not come to fruition until much later. Honestly, I'm kind of surprised by the earliness of the release. I suspected that the Iranians might wait until just after Obama left the presidency to do it, simply because they often like having childish fun with US leaders.

Iran has really shown its ass the past month or two, but I think that's largely a result of political in-fighting. The riverine boats incident and this exchange have been handled fairly well by the Iranians though. Now, if we can just take the insecure pecker measurers among the Iranians and the Americans aside and assure them that it's how you use it that matters most, maybe the moderates in each country can help us all avoid another ridiculous war.

The key here is combating penis insecurity. We need to fight against it and achieve better male self-esteem. We need to convince all men involved that they have a very special penis and that they don't have to allow their previous insecurities about it lead them into another war. It does no real good and you get no tail in the process, especially if you get your wiener blown straight off.
 
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volprof said:
The four American prisoners at the heart of some criticisms of the Iranian deal have now been released in exchange for the dropping of sanctions against seven Iranians.

Iran: U.S. prisoners Jason Rezaian, Amir Hekmati, Saeed Abedini, one other freed - CNN.com

I suspected at the time that this was most likely an off-the-table, backdoor agreement that was really a part of the deal but would not come to fruition until much later. Honestly, I'm kind of surprised by the earliness of the release. I suspected that the Iranians might wait until just after Obama left the presidency to do it, simply because they often like having childish fun with US leaders.

Iran has really shown its ass the past month or two, but I think that's largely a result of political in-fighting. The riverine boats incident and this exchange have been handled fairly well by the Iranians though. Now, if we can just take the insecure pecker measurers among the Iranians and the Americans aside and assure them that it's how you use it that matters most, maybe the moderates in each country can help us all avoid another ridiculous war.

The key here is combating penis insecurity. We need to fight against it and achieve better male self-esteem. We need to convince all men involved that they have a very special penis and that they don't have to allow their previous insecurities about it lead them into another war. It does no real good and you get no tail in the process, especially if you get your wiener blown straight off.
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We traded 7 of Iranian criminals for 4 Americans who should never have been in an Iranian prison in the first place. We got shafted. AGAIN
 
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First, we assume they did nothing. We distrust them. Just like I'm sure they think that the prisoners we are releasing did nothing because they don't trust us.

Do know what the Iranians were convicted of?
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
First, we assume they did nothing. We distrust them. Just like I'm sure they think that the prisoners we are releasing did nothing because they don't trust us.

Do know what the Iranians were convicted of?
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  • Nader Modanlo

    Modanlo, a naturalized U.S. citizen, was sentenced to eight years in prison for violating the trade embargo and helping Iran launch its first-ever satellite into orbit.

    According to court documents, Modanlo was a mechanical engineer who received science and engineering degrees from George Washington University. Modanlo said in court he was an internationally recognized expert on strategic policy and finances affecting the space-based telecommunications industry, and that he managed space and science programs for private companies, the Department of Defense and NASA.
  • Bahram Mechanic

    Mechanic, a dual citizen who lives in Houston, was indicted last year on charges he illegally exported millions of dollars in U.S. technology to Iran.

    Mechanic, 69, is the co-owner of Iran-based Faratel Corporation and its Houston-based sister company Smart Power Systems. Faratel designs and builds uninterruptible power supplies for several Iranian government agencies, including the Iranian Ministry of Defense, the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran and the Iranian Centrifuge Technology Company, according to the charges.

    The technology Mechanic sold to Iran is used in a wide range of military systems, including surface-air and cruise missiles. Between July 2010 and 2015, Mechanic's network allegedly obtained 28 million parts valued at about $24 million worth and shipped them to Iran through Taiwan and Turkey. Among the parts shipped were microelectronics and digital signal processors, according to the indictment.
  • Khosrow Afghahi

    Afghahi co-owns Faratel Corporation in Iran and Houston-based Smart Power Systems with Mechanic, according to an indictment.

    U.S. prosecutors say Afghahi, 72, of Los Angeles, helped Mechanic to illegally provide U.S. technology to Iran.
  • Tooraj Faridi

    Faridi, 46, is vice president of a Smart Power Systems and along with Afghahi assisted Mechanic in the illegal transfer of U.S. technology to Iran, according to court documents.

    Mechanic, assisted by Afghahi and Faridi, also of Houston, regularly received lists of commodities, including U.S.-origin microelectronics, sought by Faratel in Iran, according to an indictment.
  • Arash Ghahraman

    Ghahraman, 46, was sentenced to more than six years in prison last year for violating the trade embargo after he participated in a scheme to purchase marine navigation equipment and military electronic equipment for illegal export to Iran.

    Prosecutors argued in court the naturalized U.S. citizen, who lived in Staten Island, New York, acted as an agent of an Iranian procurement network and used a front company in Dubai to illegally acquire U.S. goods and technologies to be sent to Iran.

    A maritime engineer, Ghahraman also worked at shipyards in the U.S.
  • Nima Golestaneh

    Golestaneh, an Iranian national, pleaded guilty to hacking the computer system of Arrow Tech, a Vermont-based aerodynamics company and U.S. defense contractor, to steal software.

    Golestaneh, 30, was arrested in Turkey in 2013 and extradited to the United States last year. He was the only Iranian released Saturday who doesn't have dual citizenship.
  • Ali Saboonchi

    Saboonchi, 35, was convicted in 2014 of exporting industrial products to Iran though companies in China and the United Arab Emirates.

    A U.S. citizen who was living in Parkville, Maryland at the time of his arrest, Saboonchi conspired with others to evade the Iran Trade Embargo and export to Iran numerous industrial parts, including hydraulic valves and connectors; and liquid pumps and valves, which can be used in the oil, gas, energy, aerospace and defense industries, authorities said.
 
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The US government just made a direct payment to the Iranian government of $1.7 billion
 

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carlos86 said:
  • Nader Modanlo

    Modanlo, a naturalized U.S. citizen, was sentenced to eight years in prison for violating the trade embargo and helping Iran launch its first-ever satellite into orbit.

    According to court documents, Modanlo was a mechanical engineer who received science and engineering degrees from George Washington University. Modanlo said in court he was an internationally recognized expert on strategic policy and finances affecting the space-based telecommunications industry, and that he managed space and science programs for private companies, the Department of Defense and NASA.
  • Bahram Mechanic

    Mechanic, a dual citizen who lives in Houston, was indicted last year on charges he illegally exported millions of dollars in U.S. technology to Iran.

    Mechanic, 69, is the co-owner of Iran-based Faratel Corporation and its Houston-based sister company Smart Power Systems. Faratel designs and builds uninterruptible power supplies for several Iranian government agencies, including the Iranian Ministry of Defense, the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran and the Iranian Centrifuge Technology Company, according to the charges.

    The technology Mechanic sold to Iran is used in a wide range of military systems, including surface-air and cruise missiles. Between July 2010 and 2015, Mechanic's network allegedly obtained 28 million parts valued at about $24 million worth and shipped them to Iran through Taiwan and Turkey. Among the parts shipped were microelectronics and digital signal processors, according to the indictment.
  • Khosrow Afghahi

    Afghahi co-owns Faratel Corporation in Iran and Houston-based Smart Power Systems with Mechanic, according to an indictment.

    U.S. prosecutors say Afghahi, 72, of Los Angeles, helped Mechanic to illegally provide U.S. technology to Iran.
  • Tooraj Faridi

    Faridi, 46, is vice president of a Smart Power Systems and along with Afghahi assisted Mechanic in the illegal transfer of U.S. technology to Iran, according to court documents.

    Mechanic, assisted by Afghahi and Faridi, also of Houston, regularly received lists of commodities, including U.S.-origin microelectronics, sought by Faratel in Iran, according to an indictment.
  • Arash Ghahraman

    Ghahraman, 46, was sentenced to more than six years in prison last year for violating the trade embargo after he participated in a scheme to purchase marine navigation equipment and military electronic equipment for illegal export to Iran.

    Prosecutors argued in court the naturalized U.S. citizen, who lived in Staten Island, New York, acted as an agent of an Iranian procurement network and used a front company in Dubai to illegally acquire U.S. goods and technologies to be sent to Iran.

    A maritime engineer, Ghahraman also worked at shipyards in the U.S.
  • Nima Golestaneh

    Golestaneh, an Iranian national, pleaded guilty to hacking the computer system of Arrow Tech, a Vermont-based aerodynamics company and U.S. defense contractor, to steal software.

    Golestaneh, 30, was arrested in Turkey in 2013 and extradited to the United States last year. He was the only Iranian released Saturday who doesn't have dual citizenship.
  • Ali Saboonchi

    Saboonchi, 35, was convicted in 2014 of exporting industrial products to Iran though companies in China and the United Arab Emirates.

    A U.S. citizen who was living in Parkville, Maryland at the time of his arrest, Saboonchi conspired with others to evade the Iran Trade Embargo and export to Iran numerous industrial parts, including hydraulic valves and connectors; and liquid pumps and valves, which can be used in the oil, gas, energy, aerospace and defense industries, authorities said.
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So they were all convicted of selling stuff to Iran in violation of the sanctions? Stuff that was legal to sell to anyone but Iran?
 
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