iPhone vs. Droid

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GmanTN said:
The first smartphone was the IBM Simon; it was designed in 1992 and shown as a concept product[5] that year at COMDEX, the computer industry trade show held in Las Vegas, Nevada. It was released to the public in 1993 and sold by BellSouth. Besides being a mobile phone, it also contained a calendar, address book, world clock, calculator, note pad, e-mail client, the ability to send and receive faxes, and games. It had no physical buttons, instead customers used a touchscreen to select telephone numbers with a finger or create faxes and memos with an optional stylus. Text was entered with a unique on-screen "predictive" keyboard. By today's standards, the Simon would be a fairly low-end product, lacking a camera and the ability to download third-party applications. However, its feature set at the time was highly advanced.

The Nokia Communicator line was the first of Nokia's smartphones starting with the Nokia 9000, released in 1996. This distinctive palmtop computer style smartphone was the result of a collaborative effort of an early successful and costly personal digital assistant (PDA) by Hewlett-Packard

In 2000, the touchscreen Ericsson R380 Smartphone was released.[9] It was the first device to use an open operating system, the Symbian OS.[10] It was the first device marketed as a 'smartphone'.[11] It combined the functions of a mobile phone and a personal digital assistant (PDA).[12] In December 1999 the magazine Popular Science appointed the Ericsson R380 Smartphone to one of the most important advances in science and technology

Apple introduced the iphone in 2007, the only way to run apps on it at the time was to jailbreak it, in July 2008 Apple came out with its 2nd generation iphone and introduced the app store. The Android operating system for smartphones was released in 2008. Android is an open-source platform backed by Google, along with major hardware and software developers (such as Intel, HTC, ARM, Motorola and Samsung, to name a few), that form the Open Handset Alliance.[53] The first phone to use Android was the HTC Dream, branded for distribution by T-Mobile as the G1. The software suite included on the phone consists of integration with Google's proprietary applications, such as Maps, Calendar, and Gmail, and a full HTML web browser. Android supports the execution of native applications and a preemptive multitasking capability (in the form of services). Third-party apps are available via the Android Market (released October 2008), including both free and paid apps.
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Google is your friend. The iPhone took it to a whole new level. It was making all other cell/smartphones obsolete. For a lot of companies it was copy & deal with patent & copyright infringement lawsuits in order to get a piece of the pie & stay afloat. If you don't think that's the case all you gotta do is look at blackberry. Stubborn to join the copy apple revolution has them at the brink of folding. Read an article the other day where they are finally making major changes to try & save their ass. Of course they did try an iPad copy to get in on tablets but it failed miserably in no time. The other tablets are inferior to iPad as well but sell simply because they are much cheaper.
 
#230
#230
If Apple had not invented the ipod, the imac, itouch and iphone may have never happened. The ipod became an overnight success and the Apple company has rode that wave ever since. When Apple released the ipod the company was on the brink of failure in 2001, their computer sales were weak compared to PC sales.

Today the ipod still remains the number 1 mp3 player in the world.
 
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#231
utvolpj said:
another absolutely false statement/excuse. Iphone has it's good points but you sure aren't helping the cause
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Nothing false about it & I don't need to help its cause. Neither of them. If an android tablet cost $500 99.9% of folks would just get an iPad.
 
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#232
GmanTN said:
If Apple had not invented the ipod, the imac, itouch and iphone may have never happened. The ipod became an overnight success and the Apple company has rode that wave ever since. When Apple released the ipod the company was on the brink of failure in 2001, their computer sales were weak compared to PC sales.

Today the ipod still remains the number 1 mp3 player in the world.
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You're absolutely right. They were saved by one person & one product & have built off that ever since. They saved their ass with their own ideas not copying someone else's.
 
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govols/cc said:
Google is your friend. The iPhone took it to a whole new level. It was making all other cell/smartphones obsolete. For a lot of companies it was copy & deal with patent & copyright infringement lawsuits in order to get a piece of the pie & stay afloat. If you don't think that's the case all you gotta do is look at blackberry. Stubborn to join the copy apple revolution has them at the brink of folding. Read an article the other day where they are finally making major changes to try & save their ass. Of course they did try an iPad copy to get in on tablets but it failed miserably in no time. The other tablets are inferior to iPad as well but sell simply because they are much cheaper.
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Comprehension seems to be an issue with you understanding that Iphone did not revolutionize but instead stole ideas from PDA's on touchscreen and then added their on version of the touchscreen to their phone.

When the iphone first debut the hype that surrounded it made all other cell phone companies change their way of thinking on what comsumers want out of a phone and listened to what consumers found good about the iphone, what they hated about the iphone and enhancements needed to make a more user engaged experience in smartphones and the Droid was the result.

You also tend to laugh when someone points out that you have to jailbreak your iphone to get it to perform some of the same functions found in any Droid from the factory (thats called listening to consumer demands and making it possible for Droid owners) something Apple has failed to do.

The following was released in August of this year from a 3rd party metrix measuring company ComScore

82.2 million people in the U.S. owned smartphones during the three months ending in July 2011, up 10 percent from the preceding three month period. Google Android ranked as the top smartphone platform with 41.8 percent market share, up 5.4 percentage points. Apple strengthened its #2 position with 27.0 percent of the smartphone market, up 1.0 percentage points from the prior reporting period. RIM ranked third with 21.7 percent share, followed by Microsoft (5.7 percent) and Symbian (1.9 percent).
 
#234
#234
The one thing that BB does that no other smartphone can make a claim to is battery life which is why corporate America still issues BB to their employees and keeps them at #3 in market share
 
#235
#235
GmanTN said:
The one thing that BB does that no other smartphone can make a claim to is battery life which is why corporate America still issues BB to their employees and keeps them at #3 in market share
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it's also cheaper to keep old hardware/infrastructure to run BB. It's one of the reason iphone/droid have limited support in my company (even though people are begging for it)
 
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#236
If they didn't revolutionize the smartphone what do you call it. It's absurd to say they didn't. A touchscreen isn't what made apple the best it's how they used it. A phone, iPod, web browser, & more in one device with tons of useful apps to simplify everything. Jailbreaking is mainly about customization & that's the only thing droid freely allows that's better but it's no big deal to jailbreak an iPhone. The iPhone is the way it is for protection & to keep everything running smooth it's not like their just being a/holes. As for sales, when you give phones away & have pay as you go phones with a watered down OS the numbers become very misleading.
 
#237
#237
GmanTN said:
The one thing that BB does that no other smartphone can make a claim to is battery life which is why corporate America still issues BB to their employees and keeps them at #3 in market share
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Nobody wants to use a blackberry that's why battery life is so good.
 
#238
#238
allowing customers to decide for themselves what they need is a smarter business model. The cheap phones is no different than HD/Lowes selling tools at cost- they aren't the real money maker
 
#239
#239
govols/cc said:
You're absolutely right. They were saved by one person & one product & have built off that ever since. They saved their ass with their own ideas not copying someone else's.
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Even though Jobs was co-founder of Apple, he was essentially fired at Apple, after his firing he did his own thing which included the purchase of Pixar of which he sold to Apple and returned as their CEO.
 
#240
#240
GmanTN said:
Iphone manufacturer - Apple
Iphone Providers - AT&T, Verizon

Android manufacturer - All cell phone companies except Apple
Android Providers - Every Provider in the country including Cricket

There is absolutely no way the Iphone with 1 manufacturer and 2 Providers be able to keep up with Droids going forward in sales since it is limited to AT&T and Verizon. One would have to be very naive to think iphone can continue to be at the top of the smart phone food chain in sales given the above information.
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C-Spire now has the iphones.
 
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#241
govols/cc said:
If they didn't revolutionize the smartphone what do you call it. It's absurd to say they didn't. A touchscreen isn't what made apple the best it's how they used it. A phone, iPod, web browser, & more in one device with tons of useful apps to simplify everything. Jailbreaking is mainly about customization & that's the only thing droid freely allows that's better but it's no big deal to jailbreak an iPhone. The iPhone is the way it is for protection & to keep everything running smooth it's not like their just being a/holes. As for sales, when you give phones away & have pay as you go phones with a watered down OS the numbers become very misleading.
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Percentages are what they are, you can't run from facts no matter if its pay as you go or not. The company I work for have apps for all smartphones and tablets, downloads for Droid devices have far surpassed iphone and the apps are free.

Droid now holds a commanding lead in market share and the iphone will never be able to catch it. I do not think the iphone will continue with its market share in the upcoming years. The reason is Jobs death, he was the one person who made the Apple brand a household name and challenged Apple with innovative products to market. I am afraid Apple will once again begin to slide and fade away as the direction of Apple has lost its leader.
 
#245
#245
GmanTN said:
The one thing that BB does that no other smartphone can make a claim to is battery life which is why corporate America still issues BB to their employees and keeps them at #3 in market share
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In my experience, BlackBerry offers superior email integration as well. That's important in corporate eyes.
 
#246
#246
GmanTN said:
Even though Jobs was co-founder of Apple, he was essentially fired at Apple, after his firing he did his own thing which included the purchase of Pixar of which he sold to Apple and returned as their CEO.
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Everybody knows the Steve Jobs story. As for BB, maybe as they revamp their business & copy the current smartphone platforms they can maintain that battery life & use it as a selling point. As of now if you have any smartphone it's best to keep a spare wall charger & car charger at all times.
 
#247
#247
The Army has used BB for years. They are about to switch to Droid/iOS
 
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