have you liberal become numb with obama?

[orangeluvr]

My SOL jumped immensely during those administrations.

Congrats! The majority of Americans got poorer by any applied standard. :yes:

 

[hog88]

Congrats! The majority of Americans got poorer by any applied standard. :yes:

I'm sure you have data to back this up?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Congrats! The majority of Americans got poorer by any applied standard. :yes:

That was lifted to an art form by the Dems though. Congrats.

 

[Gramps]

That was lifted to an art form by the Dems though. Congrats.

Not true.

If you take an unbiased look back to 1976 from an economy point of view.

Carter was a disaster

Reagan brought great success. He saved America.

GW was kinda bla. We just rolled along so- so.

Clinton had great success due to the dot Com explosion.

W was a disaster. Left the worse economy of my lifetime

Obama has had some success.Improvement has been made though recovery has been extremely slow, it is a recovery.

 

[orangeluvr]

That was lifted to an art form by the Dems though. Congrats.

Bs and you know it ! :jpshakehead:

 

[orangeluvr]

Not true.

If you take an unbiased look back to 1976 from an economy point of view.

Carter was a disaster

Reagan brought great success. He saved America.

GW was kinda bla. We just rolled along so- so.

Clinton had great success due to the dot Com explosion.

W was a disaster. Left the worse economy of my lifetime

Obama has had some success.Improvement has been made though recovery has been extremely slow, it is a recovery.

Unbiased? the majority of the posters in this forum believe the right can do no wrong! When the legislative branch has an adversarial relationship with the executive branch little or nothing gets done. Partisan politics come before the needs of this country. :crazy:

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Not true.

If you take an unbiased look back to 1976 from an economy point of view.

Carter was a disaster

Reagan brought great success. He saved America.

GW was kinda bla. We just rolled along so- so.

Clinton had great success due to the dot Com explosion.

W was a disaster. Left the worse economy of my lifetime

Obama has had some success.Improvement has been made though recovery has been extremely slow, it is a recovery.

Bs and you know it ! :jpshakehead:

War On Poverty
Affordable Care Act

 

[tumscalcium]

Unbiased? the majority of the posters in this forum believe the right can do no wrong and every liberal believes the left can do no wrong! When the legislative branch has an adversarial relationship with the executive branch little or nothing gets done. Neither side wants to work together. Partisan politics come before the needs of this country. :crazy:

Fify

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Unbiased? the majority of the posters in this forum believe the right can do no wrong! When the legislative branch has an adversarial relationship with the executive branch little or nothing gets done. Partisan politics come before the needs of this country. :crazy:

Gridlock is good. The vast majority of legislation and regulation does nothing to better the country. Regulation is so much eyewash. Do you really think that, for example, passing laws that prohibit drones from being flown within 5 miles of a major airport will protect anybody? Will gun control legislation really prevent gun violence? Are you that naive?

We got the ACA with a democrat majority in congress and ownership of the WH. How's that working out for us? I guess if European socialism is your idea of nirvana you would say "pretty well".

 

[Gramps]

Unbiased? the majority of the posters in this forum believe the right can do no wrong! When the legislative branch has an adversarial relationship with the executive branch little or nothing gets done. Partisan politics come before the needs of this country. :crazy:

If we all agreed on every issue on every issue, it would be a boring forum. This board is far from boring, imo.

 

[lawgator1]

I am intrigued by the thought process by which so many on the right in this forum come to the conclusions that they do, and their unwillingness to reconsider them, or to question their own thought process and what might be influencing it, even when faced with facts from reputable sources that directly conflict with the underpinning of their position.

In such circumstances, they typically resort to "Oh, yeah, well what about" some other unrelated issue that allows them to just reiterate how much Obama sucks.

I feel like some on the right in this forum really ought to keep the following in mind:

 

[KentheOrange]

Not true.

If you take an unbiased look back to 1976 from an economy point of view.

Carter was a disaster

Reagan brought great success. He saved America.

GW was kinda bla. We just rolled along so- so.

Clinton had great success due to the dot Com explosion.

W was a disaster. Left the worse economy of my lifetime

Obama has had some success.Improvement has been made though recovery has been extremely slow, it is a recovery.

You ignore the fact that Clinton lit the fuse for the housing debacle along with Janet Reno by outlawing "red lining" for mortgage lenders.

W then came along and saw the looming problem and wanted to do something about Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac and was told by the dems that everything was just fine and W should keep silent about it. W didn't have the balls to go against them and we then had the housing crash.

 

[Gramps]

You ignore the fact that Clinton lit the fuse for the housing debacle along with Janet Reno by outlawing "red lining" for mortgage lenders.

W then came along and saw the looming problem and wanted to do something about Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac and was told by the dems that everything was just fine and W should keep silent about it. W didn't have the balls to go against them and we then had the housing crash.

You are correct the Graham- Leach - Biliey Act of 1999 with Clinton pushing it helped lead the housing crash.

W was not innocent as you are protraying him. You are aware the Republicans had control of Congress 6 of the 8 years W was in the WH. He could have easily done something about Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac if he and the GOP Congress wanted to.


There is plenty of blame to go around on both sides of the aisle for the the housing crash. That was only one of several disasters that happened during the W Administration.

 

[Herman Hickman]

:lolabove:
reagan, bush/chaney lowered the SOL for many American families and the gop is promising more of the same policy fails. The gop controlled congress has eliminated the SS COL raise, sorry grandma and grampa , you voted for it . Now that's how you lower the SOL. :crazy:
To the gop SOL means Sh!t Out of Luck. :yes:

The Cato Institute is your friend...

Supply-Side Tax Cuts and the Truth about the Reagan Economic Record | Cato Institute

As for Reagan lowering the standard of living for Americans, LOL...

https://danieljmitchell.wordpress.com/2014/08/07/the-no-comparison-comparison-of-reagan-v-obama/

Those of us who lived through the 1970s and the 1980s know what a real economic recovery looks like. The numbers back up the real-life experience most of us had living in the Reagan era.

 

[DC_Vol]

I'm numb to Obama's endless sermons and admonishments. You know what I mean...the opportunities he has to push forward his political agenda with a soap box speech full of uhhhs and errrrms and chest puffing about what he's going to do and what "the folks" need to do.

I have adapted by becoming numb to his bulls**t. Obama is like elevator music. I can subconsciously filter it from being the primary focus of my mental energy, yet I still find it slightly annoying just knowing it is there.

 

[Gramps]

The Cato Institute is your friend...

Supply-Side Tax Cuts and the Truth about the Reagan Economic Record | Cato Institute

As for Reagan lowering the standard of living for Americans, LOL...

https://danieljmitchell.wordpress.com/2014/08/07/the-no-comparison-comparison-of-reagan-v-obama/

Those of us who lived through the 1970s and the 1980s know what a real economic recovery looks like. The numbers back up the real-life experience most of us had living in the Reagan era.

We did have a much better recovery during the Reagan years but to be fair the economy was not the disaster in 1981 as it was in 2009. It does not compare. This has been the worse recession since the great recession. As your figures show we are recovering though it be slow.

 

[Herman Hickman]

We did have a much better recovery during the Reagan years but to be fair the economy was not the disaster in 1981 as it was in 2009. It does not compare. This has been the worse recession since the great recession. As your figures show we are recovering though it be slow.

Gramps, recovery entails more people working with more money in their pockets in a booming economy.

We have none of that now. The Workforce Participation Rate is not at Reagan levels. It is at Carter levels. That is not a recovery. That is a decline felt by every American who isn't a part of the crony network Bush and Obama built.

The solutions Obama has prescribed for the economy, loose monetary policy, increased government regulation, and government-directed growth, were the very things producing the economic downturn in the 1970s.

Reagan inherited this very economy, with the added issues of double-digit inflation and double-digit interest rates, in 1981. It is a recovery in name only, benefitting only crony capitalists and members of the governing power in this country.

 

[Gramps]

Gramps, recovery entails more people working with more money in their pockets in a booming economy.

We have none of that now. The Workforce Participation Rate is not at Reagan levels. It is at Carter levels. That is not a recovery. That is a decline felt by every American who isn't a part of the crony network Bush and Obama built.

The solutions Obama has prescribed for the economy, loose monetary policy, increased government regulation, and government-directed growth, were the very things producing the economic downturn in the 1970s.

Reagan inherited this very economy, with the added issues of double-digit inflation and double-digit interest rates, in 1981. It is a recovery in name only, benefitting only crony capitalists and members of the governing power in this country.

The economy Reagan inherited was not close to being as bad as the economy Obama inherited, that is a fact you, I and anyone else who lived through the Reagan years realizes.

One of the charts you posted shows the job market was growing from day 1 of the Reagan Administration, the jobs market was in a nose dive when Obama took office losing hundreds of thousands of jobs per month.

It is also fact Reagan did a much better job in handling the problems he faced. He was a smart man who knew he had to work with Congress, especially Tip O'Neil in order to get any of his policies passed and he did just that. Obama on the other hand has done nothing but be arrogant and stub his nose to the GOP in Congress which has caused a tremendous amount of ill feelings not only in Washington but across America.

Reagan was the great communicator who brought America together as a nation and made us feel better, Obama is the great divider, he has done just the opposite. You don't have to twist history to make RR look 10 times better than O.

 

[MOOOOONEY]

We did have a much better recovery during the Reagan years but to be fair the economy was not the disaster in 1981 as it was in 2009. It does not compare. This has been the worse recession since the great recession. As your figures show we are recovering though it be slow.

Gramps your memory most be going, I know you were probably 65 when Reagan took office but the economy was a dumpster fire, 20.5 percent interest rates, not a lot of jobs, it was a mess

 

[Gramps]

Gramps your memory most be going, I know you were probably 65 when Reagan took office but the economy was a dumpster fire, 20.5 percent interest rates, not a lot of jobs, it was a mess

The recession actually hit in 1973 during the Nixon years and it's effect lasted through the Carter years with another recession in 1980.

Times were hard but it was not near as bad as it was in 2008-2009. Look at the chart posted, jobs were being added the day RR took office, we were losing hundreds of thousand per month when O took office. That be a fact

I did very well during the Reagan years, that is when my business exploded upwards.

 

[Gramps]

Gramps, recovery entails more people working with more money in their pockets in a booming economy.

We have none of that now. The Workforce Participation Rate is not at Reagan levels. It is at Carter levels. That is not a recovery. That is a decline felt by every American who isn't a part of the crony network Bush and Obama built.

The solutions Obama has prescribed for the economy, loose monetary policy, increased government regulation, and government-directed growth, were the very things producing the economic downturn in the 1970s.

Reagan inherited this very economy, with the added issues of double-digit inflation and double-digit interest rates, in 1981. It is a recovery in name only, benefitting only crony capitalists and members of the governing power in this country.

I wish we were at the Carter levels of job creation. I have saw reports ranging from 8.6 - 10 million jobs created during Carters 4 years .

I am in no way knocking the job that Reagan done. I think he did a great job with the short term economy during his time in office. I have posted on this forum several times I consider him the best POTUS of my lifetime although he was by far from being an angel.

I also try to look at things in an unbiased way. We have had presidents on both sides of the aisle do good and bad things for our nation. I do not look at the R or the D I look at the person.

Job created during Presidential Administrations for the last 50 years (1965-2015). The numbers to comply this list come from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. They are very easy for anyone to check.

1. Clinton
2. Reagan
3. Carter
4. LBJ
5. Obama
6. Nixon
7. HW Bush
8. Ford
9. W Bush

 

[orangeluvr]

War On Poverty
Affordable Care Act

More like the war on middle class America.

 

[orangeluvr]

If we all agreed on every issue on every issue, it would be a boring forum. This board is far from boring, imo.

Looks to me like I'm the only one that disagrees in this form. The disagreement stems from concern for policies that aren't favorable to the middle class.

 

[Gramps]

Looks to me like I'm the only one that disagrees in this form. The disagreement stems from concern for policies that aren't favorable to the middle class.

Grow you some thick skin. It gets a little rough in here at times.

I am a moderate, don't agree with all the policies of either side so I am disagreed with often.

The board is dominated by Republicans who say they are not Republicans, they are conservatives. They are ashamed to admit they are a Republican is all I can figure. If you disagree with their views in any way you are a flaming commie lib.


You are in the minority being a Democrat in here but remember it is good to listen to other opinions. Neither side has all the correct answers.

If you want to get along bash Obama everyone he farts, you will be loved by most

 

[orangeluvr]

:hi:

Grow you some thick skin. It gets a little rough in here at times.

I am a moderate, don't agree with all the policies of either side so I am disagreed with often.

The board is dominated by Republicans who say they are not Republicans, they are conservatives. They are ashamed to admit they are a Republican is all I can figure. If you disagree with their views in any way you are a flaming commie lib.


You are in the minority being a Democrat in here but remember it is good to listen to other opinions. Neither side has all the correct answers.

If you want to get along bash Obama everyone he farts, you will be loved by most

Independent voter and middle class advocate. Ain't happy with BO and really disliked Bush2 , but respected the office he held.:hi: