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#76
#76
Social issues are a big problem for the GOP.

Not for the right candidate.

A simple answer of that is a state issue and up to the citizens of each state would take care of all the gay marriage, abortion and other social issue questions.

Where Romney messed up was not giving specifics on his economic and tax plan. He could have said anything, I'll eliminate the mortgage deduction for rich people, I'll close the corprate loophole for x, y, z. Hey Joe six pack, I'm going to lower your taxes and you get to keep your deductions.

He could have said anything along thise lines, would not matter if he was FOS or not. The last two elections prove BS wins!
 
#77
#77
Imo Romney was too far left and didnt excite the base. Most americans identify themselves as conservatives who want smaller government.

Funny, all we heard about leading up to the election was how excited the Republican voters were.

Apparently not.
 
#78
#78
I and many people will never vote for the GOP morality police.

Change that and we can have a discussion.
 
#79
#79
I wouldn't say that, I would say they are getting more concentrated. Particularly in the north east and west coast but I still don't think social issues were Romney's downfall.

Its a party problem. It reflected poorly on him overall.
 
#80
#80
I and many people will never vote for the GOP morality police.

Change that and we can have a discussion.

Eventually people grow up and have morals of their own. Every dumbass kid is a lib. Then they grow up, make a lil dough, quit smoking dope and have kids. Common sense and conservative ideals usually follow. Usually.
 
#81
#81
Eventually people grow up and have morals of their own. Every dumbass kid is a lib. Then they grow up, make a lil dough, quit smoking dope and have kids. Common sense and conservative ideals usually follow. Usually.

I hope you are right, I am losing faith.
 
#82
#82
Eventually people grow up and have morals of their own. Every dumbass kid is a lib. Then they grow up, make a lil dough, quit smoking dope and have kids. Common sense and conservative ideals usually follow. Usually.

Glad you put that in. I never even looked at a social agenda until after turning about 30. I followed the same rule my dad and his dad before him did. If you make good money be a Rep. and if you do not be a Dem. It used to be that simple. Now fiscally they often are so close the differentiation comes from their social policies and more to the point, the overall social policies of their party.
 
#83
#83
Eventually people grow up and have morals of their own. Every dumbass kid is a lib. Then they grow up, make a lil dough, quit smoking dope and have kids. Common sense and conservative ideals usually follow. Usually.

I'm a married man pushing thirty with combined income over 100k. The social issues are a big problem. You are not only insulting, but way off base.
 
#85
#85
This except I am over 40 too lol.

35, same picture.

Marcus has bible blinders on and wants the government to force his will on the rest of us.

I wonder where Jesus would stand on socialized health care.
 
#86
#86
Pushing retirement age here.

Can't wait til I reach that age that
I can excersise my right to retire (for PJ's eyes) and sit on my lazy butt, do a little trading online, go fishing , camping, travel a little, make luv to granny and draw my guvment check and get my free insurance.
 
#87
#87
35, same picture.

Marcus has bible blinders on and wants the government to force his will on the rest of us.

I wonder where Jesus would stand on socialized health care.

If Jesus were real and alive today, he would not even make it through the primaries. Would be accused of being a pot smoking socialist that gives handouts.
 
#88
#88
Eventually people grow up and have morals of their own. Every dumbass kid is a lib. Then they grow up, make a lil dough, quit smoking dope and have kids. Common sense and conservative ideals usually follow. Usually.

How arrogant of you. My parents are in their fifties. They are about to sell their three properties to move to Franklin where my father will retire from a comfortable living he's made in the past 30 years. My mom will expand her clientele for her interior design business, which already nabs her an increasingly healthy income.

Both are religious (but knowledgeable enough to not impose the Bible on those who want none of it), both have voted predominantly liberal for decades, and both are regular smokers of said dope. Oh yeah, they also pushed out 5 kids. Hope that fits your picture.

Morality is easy:

-don't lie
-don't steal
-don't harm
-don't kill

Don't need to judge others, hold everyone to a standard, or vote for stiffs to attain that.
 
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#89
#89
Pushing retirement age here.

Can't wait til I reach that age that
I can excersise my right to retire (for PJ's eyes) and sit on my lazy butt, do a little trading online, go fishing , camping, travel a little, make luv to granny and draw my guvment check and get my free insurance.

You go, dude!
 
#90
#90
pushing retirement age here.

Can't wait til i reach that age that
i can excersise my right to retire (for pj's eyes) and sit on my lazy butt, do a little trading online, go fishing , camping, travel a little, make luv to granny and draw my guvment check and get my free insurance.

tmi!!!
 
#91
#91
How arrogant of you. My parents are in their fifties. They are about to sell their three properties to move to Franklin where my father will retire from a comfortable living he's made in the past 30 years. My mom will expand her clientele for her interior design business, which already nabs her an increasingly healthy income.

Both are religious (but knowledgeable enough to not impose the Bible on those who want none of it), both have voted predominantly liberal for decades, and both are regular smokers of said dope.

Morality is easy:

-don't lie
-don't steal
-don't harm
-don't kill


Don't need to judge others, hold everyone to a standard, or vote for stiffs to attain that.

Keep it simple, I agree.
 
#92
#92
If Jesus were real and alive today, he would not even make it through the primaries. Would be accused of being a pot smoking socialist that gives handouts.

I have a hard time believing some of these thumpers would vote for an Arab Jew who believed that helping the poor, sick, and lost was far more important than unnecessary wealth.

Not to say I follow JesuCristo's philosophy, but many on here claim to do so.

FTR, he'd probably hate the love of personal wealth, judgement of all things gay and poor, and the hatred for Islam.
 
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#93
#93
I have a hard time believing some of these thumpers would vote for an Arab Jew who believed that helping the poor, sick, and lost was far more important than unnecessary wealth.

Not to say I follow JesuCristo's philosophy, but many on here claim to do so.

FTR, he'd probably hate the love of personal wealth, judgement of all things gay and poor, and the hatred for Islam.

Good post.
 
#95
#95
The only hope for the country is just that. Hopefully Americans figure out in 4 years that the left is the cause of the financial and moral crisis our country will be in and choose to get as far away from that as possible. Republicans can nominate an Evangelical who is a fiscal ultraconservative and excite the base like he is the second coming of Christ...its our only hope. Unfortunately fror that to happen Obama will have to truly wreck this country to the point where citizens start to actually feel the consequences of his policy in their homes and lives...instead of mythically large numbers talked about on tV, no check in the mailbox
If that happens, enjoy indefinite Democratic occupation of the White House after Obama's 2nd term is up.
 
#96
#96
I don't really care for Bill O'Rielly but I think he hit the nail on the head last night.

He said ( not qouting) America has changed, we now have an electorate that wants stuff from the gov't instead of one that simply wants oportunity.

The Takers now outnumber the Makers.
 
#97
#97
Imo Romney was too far left and didnt excite the base. Most americans identify themselves as conservatives who want smaller government.

If the Republicans move further left there would be no difference in the two parties. If there is not a significant shift to the right with the next candidate I will vote 3rd party.

The only hope for the country is just that. Hopefully Americans figure out in 4 years that the left is the cause of the financial and moral crisis our country will be in and choose to get as far away from that as possible. Republicans can nominate an Evangelical who is a fiscal ultraconservative and excite the base like he is the second coming of Christ...its our only hope. Unfortunately fror that to happen Obama will have to truly wreck this country to the point where citizens start to actually feel the consequences of his policy in their homes and lives...instead of mythically large numbers talked about on tV, no check in the mailbox

You guys keep leaving in this wonderland where Republicans are actually fiscally conservative and the American electorate is just waiting for a ultra social conservative to tell them by force how to live their life.

Neither of those are the case.
 
#98
#98
You guys keep leaving in this wonderland where Republicans are actually fiscally conservative and the American electorate is just waiting for a ultra social conservative to tell them by force how to live their life.

Neither of those are the case.

Where do people get this stuff? Seriously nominate someone that is an ultra social conservative and outside a couple of southern states watch the map light up blue.
 
#99
#99
Where do people get this stuff? Seriously nominate someone that is an ultra social conservative and outside a couple of southern states watch the map light up blue.

I don't know either. There are many GOP'ers who believe the reason they lost was because they nominated two "moderates" in McCain and Romney. If only they have nominated a "truly conservative" candidate, Obama would be homeless.
 
I don't know either. There are many GOP'ers who believe the reason they lost was because they nominated two "moderates" in McCain and Romney. If only they have nominated a "truly conservative" candidate, Obama would be homeless.

The counterexample to that logic is the Senate race in Indiana. Mordoch was a true conservative and beat the moderate Lugar easily in the primary. he lost to the Democrat on Tues yet Indiana is solidly a "red" state.
 

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