Call For Second Special Counsel Picking Up Steam

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Vol0725 said:
Sessions should appoint a Justice Department prosecutor to investigate the investigators.

“What’s good for the goose . . .” is more an understandable impulse than a useful rule of thumb in legal controversies, particularly legal controversies in which an error has been made.

The White House and congressional Republicans have watched in ire as the Trump administration has been tied in knots by the no-boundaries Mueller investigation. “Okay,” they’re thinking, “now, it’s payback time.” There appear to have been highly irregular investigative tactics used in probing the Trump campaign — particularly, but not exclusively, by the Obama administration. Why not, then, appoint another special counsel to squeeze the squeezers? Why not turn the tables?

It’s a bad idea.
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Again, outside of the partisan media reporting this - is there any actual evidence of this? Is Mueller tweeting his intentions, sending encrypted notes or something else equally nefarious or sinister to twist up the WH?

Mueller is being portrayed as a boogieman in some fckedup echo chamber and the trumpettes are too triggered about it to understand they're buying evidence that doesn't exist.
 
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The Original Sin: A Prosecutor , but No Crime?...Rosenstein made a foundational error in appointing Mueller to be special counsel to investigate . . . well . . . um . . . come to think of it, that was the error: The investigation has no parameters, and thus no limitations.

Investigations conducted by prosecutors are supposed to be rooted in known crimes — or, at the very least, articulable suspicion that known crimes have occurred. Under the governing regulations, to justify the appointment of a special counsel, those crimes must form the basis for two salient findings: (1) that the Justice Department has a conflict of interest so severe that it cannot conduct the investigation in the normal manner, and (2) that it is necessary to appoint, from outside the Justice Department, a quasi-independent prosecutor. This special prosecutor is to be given a grant of investigative jurisdiction limited to the crimes that the Justice Department is too conflicted to investigate — and no other crimes, unless the special counsel explicitly requests, and the Justice Department grants, an expansion of jurisdiction.

Bottom-line, Mueller was not, and is not necessary IMO.
 
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Vol0725 said:
Sessions should appoint a Justice Department prosecutor to investigate the investigators.

“What’s good for the goose . . .” is more an understandable impulse than a useful rule of thumb in legal controversies, particularly legal controversies in which an error has been made.

The White House and congressional Republicans have watched in ire as the Trump administration has been tied in knots by the no-boundaries Mueller investigation. “Okay,” they’re thinking, “now, it’s payback time.” There appear to have been highly irregular investigative tactics used in probing the Trump campaign — particularly, but not exclusively, by the Obama administration. Why not, then, appoint another special counsel to squeeze the squeezers? Why not turn the tables?

It’s a bad idea.
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Yeah, it seems more like a retribution tactic than anything. Of course, I'm not well versed in such matters. Perhaps the DoJ can't just run with the IG findings. Maybe a special counsel is needed, as well.
 
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Anybody else think Mueller looks like he's constipated or suffering from bowel distension?
 

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Septic said:
Again, outside of the partisan media reporting this - is there any actual evidence of this? Is Mueller tweeting his intentions, sending encrypted notes or something else equally nefarious or sinister to twist up the WH?

Mueller is being portrayed as a boogieman in some fckedup echo chamber and the trumpettes are too triggered about it to understand they're buying evidence that doesn't exist.
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Evidence. No,speculative opinion to enhance a viewpoint. Which is all anyone has, per your point, no one knows really what Mueller is doing. He’s not needed IMO.
 
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Vol0725 said:
Evidence. No,speculative opinion to enhance a viewpoint. Which is all anyone has, per your point, no one knows really what Mueller is doing. He’s not needed IMO.
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So... Because he's being quiet means he must not be needed?

You really could use some time outside of the echo chamber, your sense of logic is being dulled.
 
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1972 Grad said:
You're 6'3" and 240?
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Septic said:
That's rich given the river of tears cried over Mueller.
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That’s a witch hunt. The appointment of special counsel relies on an underlying crime. The only apparent crimes were committed by Muller’s friends and in partnership with democrats.
 
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We'll need a Third (neutral) Special Investigator (preferably a robot or organ-grinding chimp) to investigate the Second Investigator and ensure his investigation of the First Investigator isn't improperly investigating in a partisan or sexist manner (Third investigator should be neutered, unless robot) into the First Investigators investigation.

In the event the Third Investigator finds evidence of any independent thoughts or potential partisan bias (e.g. anyone that voted in an election, unless a robot), a Fourth Investigator shall be appointed to investigate those who appointed the Third Investigator.

In the event that those responsible for appointing the Fourth Investigator are evidenced to have ever spoken - intentionally or not - to a fellow human of the identical political party, those persons shall be assigned to a re-education camp (in Sarah Huckabee's basement), and a system of drawing straws implemented for determining which Special Investigators report shall ultimately be forwarded to Congress to be summarily ignored.
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
We'll need a Third (neutral) Special Investigator (preferably a robot or organ-grinding chimp) to investigate the Second Investigator and ensure his investigation of the First Investigator isn't improperly investigating in a partisan or sexist manner (Third investigator should be neutered, unless robot) into the First Investigators investigation.

In the event the Third Investigator finds evidence of any independent thoughts or potential partisan bias (e.g. anyone that voted in an election, unless a robot), a Fourth Investigator shall be appointed to investigate those who appointed the Third Investigator.

In the event that those responsible for appointing the Fourth Investigator are evidenced to have ever spoken - intentionally or not - to a fellow human of the identical political party, those persons shall be assigned to a re-education camp (in Sarah Huckabee's basement), and a system of drawing straws implemented for determining which Special Investigators report shall ultimately be forwarded to Congress to be summarily ignored.
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I almost spit my milk out reading this, lol!
 
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Septic said:
So... Because he's being quiet means he must not be needed?

You really could use some time outside of the echo chamber, your sense of logic is being dulled.
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Being quiet? Ummm oookkay? Not sure the relevance to my statement.

My logic is dulled? That an appointment of an SC was not needed? Oh BS, the counterintelligence investigation could have likely been carried on internally (or appoint a nonpartisan investigative commission), and without all the political rhetoric.
 
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Sin City Vol said:
A second counsel doesn’t matter. If mueller has hard evidence then there is nothing that can be done.
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The guy can find dirt on anyone and everyone in the US if he wants to and charge them. He was purposefully not given parameters on his investigation because the whole goal is to ruin Trump’s presidency. If there was Russian collusion, they would have found it already. It’s very easy to cross-reference emails and contacts.

We need a second investigation, because of what we think happened where a sitting president skirted the laws to land his potential scuccesor in trouble, then that’s an act of treason. It doesn’t matter what the political affiliation is. And if that’s the case, then all those involved should spend the rest of their lives in prison. This is possibly the biggest attempt at a coup in our lifetimes.
 
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hog88 said:
If Muller had hard evidence why has he allowed Trump to stay in office?
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Mueller isn't a prosecutor. He collects facts and presents them to those charged with levying justice.

It is fascinating to watch folks buy in to the narrative that he's a boogeyman.
 
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