Zimmerman Trial

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If this stuff comes in tomorrow, we may see a riot in the courtroom where the jury goes after the state prosecutors for forcing them to take part in this show trial.
 
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Highly recommend going on internet and watch the trial right now. Damning stuff coming out. Disgusting for the State to keep this show trial going at this point. It's getting ridiculous. Career ending stuff here folks.
 
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Just ended. I actually thought we may see West for the Defense fight Guy for State. Defense arguing State has violated Zimmerman's rights under Florida and US Constitution because they hid the evidence that's coming out of Trayvon's phone right now that talks about fighting, MMA fights, getting people to ground to hurt people. West accused Guy of letting other State prosecutor lie to court and then Guy demanded apology and then judge just lost it.

Crazy ending - like Wow. Judge walks out while Defense still arguing saying they are physically exhausted, can't prepare witnesses for 8am court tomorrow, and Court violating Zimmerman's rights. It has reached a new level of disgusting.
 
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hndog609 said:
It's probably worth going over the 911 transcript.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/326700-full-transcript-zimmerman.html

Make special note of immediately after the highlighted area. It looks pretty clear that contact with TM is completely broken off at this point. If TM had wanted to be at home with Skittles and tea he apparently had that option. So why didn't it work out that way?
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I dunno... young stupidity.

Not saying ZM deserves any sort of charge, but we're talking about a dumb kid against a grown man with a gun.

None of this should have happened. Stupid decisions by stupid people.
 
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Vol4LifeLCA said:
Just ended. I actually thought we may see West for the Defense fight Guy for State. Defense arguing State has violated Zimmerman's rights under Florida and US Constitution because they hid the evidence that's coming out of Trayvon's phone right now that talks about fighting, MMA fights, getting people to ground to hurt people. West accused Guy of letting other State prosecutor lie to court and then Guy demanded apology and then judge just lost it.

Crazy ending - like Wow. Judge walks out while Defense still arguing saying they are physically exhausted, can't prepare witnesses for 8am court tomorrow, and Court violating Zimmerman's rights. It has reached a new level of disgusting.
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sitting on edge and eating :popcorn: with this stuff happening like it is.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
I dunno... young stupidity.

Not saying ZM deserves any sort of charge, but we're talking about a dumb kid against a grown man with a gun.

None of this should have happened. Stupid decisions by stupid people.
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I take it you didn't check out the last part of the trial. Trayvon was no kid. He was a young man that had a history of fighting and wanted to hurt people. Don't believe me, then read what Trayvon himself had to say about it.

There should be NO more talking about Trayvon like he was a damn kid. Read his texts about how he talks about beating people on the ground MMA style just like what he did to Zimmerman.

There should be NO ONE at this point that thinks Zimmerman is guilty. It is clear Trayvon was a thug and this was nothing but a political show trial.

For anyone that blames Zimmerman for anything, then I have to wonder if you also blame rape victims. It is sick to try and justify Trayvon attacking Zimmerman because he thought he was being followed - it's just wrong on so many levels. We can't tell our children that Trayvon's response was appropriate and anyone that does should be ashamed.

Tonight's trial ending was an embarrassment to our legal system and Zimmerman's constitutional rights have been violated.

Here's a legal blog summarizing what happened tonight: Trayvon Martin | Text messages | cell phone photos
 
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Vol4LifeLCA said:
Just ended. I actually thought we may see West for the Defense fight Guy for State. Defense arguing State has violated Zimmerman's rights under Florida and US Constitution because they hid the evidence that's coming out of Trayvon's phone right now that talks about fighting, MMA fights, getting people to ground to hurt people. West accused Guy of letting other State prosecutor lie to court and then Guy demanded apology and then judge just lost it.

Crazy ending - like Wow. Judge walks out while Defense still arguing saying they are physically exhausted, can't prepare witnesses for 8am court tomorrow, and Court violating Zimmerman's rights. It has reached a new level of disgusting.
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Bad, bad look for the judge tonite.
 
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bamawriter said:
Bad, bad look for the judge tonite.
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If that summary is correct, it sounds like we had a sh*tty set of corrupt state officials who had a verdict decided before the trial started. The judge is a piece of refuse for basically not allowing the defense to, well, defend the accused.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
I dunno... young stupidity.

Not saying ZM deserves any sort of charge, but we're talking about a dumb kid against a grown man with a gun.

e.
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(CNN) -*A referee for a recreational soccer league who was punched in the face by a teenager has died, police in Salt Lake City said.

Referee punched in face by teen player dies - CNN.com

dumb kid against a grown man.. grown man is dead



also people quit calling this guy a kid.. if he killed three or five people he would have been charged and treated by the state as an adult
 
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Here's video of the judge basically saying F--- You to the Constitution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcjgsjZ9ffM&feature=youtu.be

In her court, we can't worry about a defendant's right to a fair trial when there's juror inconvenience to think about. Forget the fact that the defendant faces a 30 year to life jail sentence.

Where's all the people that were complaining about our Constitutional rights being violated because some little POS kid thinks he's making a point by not rolling down his window for a DUI stop. You wanna be mad at something be mad at how this judge is violating Zimmerman's rights. You scholars should be furious at this trial right now.
 
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The fact this judge won't allow text messages because they cannot validate it was extremely weak as well. If that's the case then that sets the precedent that unless you say I and then state your name am sending you this message then it cannot be used against you.
 
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I saw bits and pieces when it was happening live. Having gone back and watched it a few times I am completely gobsmacked. If the judge doesn't allow those texts, or at the very least doesn't grant a continuance so the defense can attempt to authenticate them, then both sides might as well start gearing up to try this thing again. No conviction can stand up under these circumstances. I really don't know what Nelson is thinking.
 
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bamawriter said:
I saw bits and pieces when it was happening live. Having gone back and watched it a few times I am completely gobsmacked. If the judge doesn't allow those texts, or at the very least doesn't grant a continuance so the defense can attempt to authenticate them, then both sides might as well start gearing up to try this thing again. No conviction can stand up under these circumstances. I really don't know what Nelson is thinking.
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She's either thinking she doesn't want to get murdered by idiots when Zimmerman is acquitted OR she already had a verdict in mind before the trial started and wants to keep the state from looking like morons for bringing the case.
 
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tvols75 said:
The fact this judge won't allow text messages because they cannot validate it was extremely weak as well. If that's the case then that sets the precedent that unless you say I and then state your name am sending you this message then it cannot be used against you.
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Even then, I can pick up your phone and put that same disclaimer in. Saying "it's me" on a text message doesn't prove anything. Nelson's logic doesn't allow for the electronic communication of any deceased person to be admitted, because there is no way to effectively authenticate the communication to her standards. Even if the person on the other end testified, that person can't possibly know it was actually his or her friend on the other end.

If two levels of password protection and a writing style consistent with every other message on that phone isn't enough, then there is no "enough" without holding a seance.
 
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So I guess all the 40 year old men that are solicitating a minor via text messages. can
just say somebody picked my phone up


guess there will be some men sitting in Florida jails asking for new trials
 
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volmaverick said:
So I guess all the 40 year old men that are solicitating a minor via text messages. can
just say somebody picked my phone up


guess there will be some men sitting in Florida jails asking for new trials
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Cops can use it to arrest people but it can't be used the other way around. That's what I was thinking too.
 
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tvols75 said:
The fact this judge won't allow text messages because they cannot validate it was extremely weak as well. If that's the case then that sets the precedent that unless you say I and then state your name am sending you this message then it cannot be used against you.
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Exactly... How many times have phone records been used in the past. I think the judge had to drop a deuce the way she was trying to get out of the court room....it was as if she was touching cotton.
 
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bamawriter said:
Even then, I can pick up your phone and put that same disclaimer in. Saying "it's me" on a text message doesn't prove anything. Nelson's logic doesn't allow for the electronic communication of any deceased person to be admitted, because there is no way to effectively authenticate the communication to her standards. Even if the person on the other end testified, that person can't possibly know it was actually his or her friend on the other end.

If two levels of password protection and a writing style consistent with every other message on that phone isn't enough, then there is no "enough" without holding a seance.
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I don't see how a judge could rule that and be considered impartial.
 
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