Zimmerman Trial

#77
#77
notabed22 said:
Yes.

Do I believe that George Zimmerman is guilty of second degree murder? Not necessarily.

Do I believe that enough evidence exists to prove Zimmerman's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt? No, certainly not.

Do I believe that the six jurors will find him guilty of second degree murder? Oh, absolutely.
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That would not surprise me at all. More of an appeasement than justice.
 
#78
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notabed22 said:
Yes.

Do I believe that George Zimmerman is guilty of second degree murder? Not necessarily.

Do I believe that enough evidence exists to prove Zimmerman's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt? No, certainly not.

Do I believe that the six jurors will find him guilty of second degree murder? Oh, absolutely.
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I think it is a possibility, but I don't think it will play out that way.
 
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AirVol said:
Where was the mainstream media when the innocent Knoxville couple was murdered by a gang of black guys? Media bias is typical now days.
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Edit: can't find the references that were available during the trial.
 
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After introducing items which the police had booked into evidence, the prosecution called a witness who helped its case. She testified that she heard running "from left to right" outside her apartment before the shooting. That would place Zimmerman and Martin further inside the two rows of buildings than the scene of the shooting, indicating that Zimmerman had pursued Martin farther than expected. When asked about what she had heard, she just popped out with the bombshell testimony, which was not included in any of her written statements. She got wide-eyed with a scared look on her face, so I thought she was very aware of what she had just done. Her testimony was a little conflicted. She claimed to the defense that she did not remember if she had made that disclosure in her previous statements; she even looked through her written statements to see if she had said anything about which direction they were going, but when the prosecutor told her that they had never asked her about the direction, she immediately agreed with him. The defense should have objected, because the prosecutor was leading, putting words in her mouth. The testimony raised the question of prosecutor misconduct, and to me that is what it looked like, but the defense was not able to do much besides make the situation look very strange, as it was.
 
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Good ears to hear running, determine who it was, what they looked like, & their direction.
 
#87
#87
She was vague on almost everything. She heard them running left to right, did not see them well enough to identify either one, just saw two people standing with their arms moving, saw Martin on the ground after she heard the shot but did not see Zimmerman at all after she heard the shot and looked out. Did not call the police. I thought that she was a poor witness, but she gave important testimony about a couple of key points. It will be interesting to see how her testimony holds up and if anything comes from the possible misconduct. To me, it looked blatant. She could not explain what she did during all of the time she spent with the prosecutors. The defense really should subpoena her phone and computer records as well as the records of her sister.
 
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The State's witness was horrible. She tried bringing in new testimony and couldn't explain why she conviently just remebered the noises she heard today on the stand. Also, she looked/sounded coached and this was alluded to by the Defense. She also kept fidgeting and moving on the stand and just came off like she was lying. Then to top it off she liked a Justice for Trayvon facebook page and signed some petition to Bring Justice for Trayvon's killer. Basicully, she just didn't look good for the State. At the end of questioning she looked liked she realized what she had done and wanted to cry.
 
#89
#89
Oh, no!

A witness has an opinion about a trial and doesn't seem indifferent as to the defendant's guilt!

Good thing she's a witness and not on the ****ing jury. Seriously, this is akin to someone being outraged over Zimmerman liking a "George Zimmerman is the real victim here" Facebook page.
 
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notabed22 said:
Oh, no!

A witness has an opinion about a trial and doesn't seem indifferent as to the defendant's guilt!

Good thing she's a witness and not on the ****ing jury. Seriously, this is akin to someone being outraged over Zimmerman liking a "George Zimmerman is the real victim here" Facebook page.
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I think it's safe to say the accused is biased, and expected to be. A witness that could be biased to the point of questioning their testimony (I'll leave that to the individual to decide) isn't something I find as easy to dismiss as you. Not a particuarly inspired comparison you make IMO.
 
#92
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notabed22 said:
Oh, no!

A witness has an opinion about a trial and doesn't seem indifferent as to the defendant's guilt!

Good thing she's a witness and not on the ****ing jury. Seriously, this is akin to someone being outraged over Zimmerman liking a "George Zimmerman is the real victim here" Facebook page.
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It's called bias and it is up to the jury to determine whether to trust her testimony. I think she looked terrible and I bet the State did too.
 
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Vol4LifeLCA said:
It's called bias and it is up to the jury to determine whether to trust her testimony. I think she looked terrible and I bet the State did too.
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In and of itself, it should not be surprising that a witness for the State is of the opinion that the defendant is guilty.

But if the defense was able to indicate that she is lying, then her opinion can easily be viewed as bias. But, reading reports, I'm not sure the defense pushed it far enough.
 
#94
#94
Local news says the girlfriend is on the stand now. I'm not watching but commentary from the cheap seats is that she's not doing very well and making some pretty outlandish claims.
 
#95
#95
Anyone want to a see train wreck live, just head on over to orlandosentinel.com and check out the trial live.

Zimmerman's attorney is about to start cross on the State's star witness, who so far has been interesting to say the least.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Local news says the girlfriend is on the stand now. I'm not watching but commentary from the cheap seats is that she's not doing very well and making some pretty outlandish claims.
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She did bad. I don't see how her testimony so far can do any good for the State, and to top it off, we haven't even got to cross yet.

She is very hostile already and everyone is having trouble understanding what she is saying. Her testimony doesn't make sense so far and I think she is going to blow up on cross and get mad at the Defense questioning.

Well here she goes so we will see.
 
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Vol4LifeLCA said:
She did bad. I don't see how her testimony so far can do any good for the State, and to top it off, we haven't even got to cross yet.

She is very hostile already and everyone is having trouble understanding what she is saying. Her testimony doesn't make sense so far and I think she is going to blow up on cross and get mad at the Defense questioning.

Well here she goes so we will see.
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She already looks pissed off
 
#100
#100
The State can't help it that she was his g/f and claims to hear what she claims. They have to play the hand they are dealt.
 
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