Zach Rogers

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That tricky son of a gun Dooley has thrown us all for a loop. This sets up perfectly for the emergence of Rod Wilks.

May Rod have mercy on our souls.
 
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I feel like he understands the game I feel like he is a smart WR Im not saying he isnt athletic Im just saying that his athleticism doesnt translate well to field. Thats all. I also hate that everyone turned this into a race thing. We can say that UT is Racist cause they took a black QB and him into a Wideout cause they fell blacks are capable of being QBs. Our fan base here in knoxville is to stuck on race much like South Carolina was and until we shake that we are going to get good players here we gonna get the left overs
 
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hndog609 said:
It's his getting the ball in his hands that's the problem, not the speed. Leonard Scott is the fastest guy that's every worn the Orange (and yes that includes Gault and Graddy) but he was a pretty darn mediocre receiver. (pretty good return guy though) In fact, Zach'd probably be starting over him now too.
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Lol you damn right bout that but you also pointed out that he was a good return guy Z. Rogers cant even do that let me restate what I meant. His athleticism doesnt translate to the field well Im not say he doesnt run a 4.47 it just doesnt show during the game. When he has the ball in his hand he doesnt break a away man like when he tried to juke that guy in the montana game the world second slowest juke
 
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GBOVOLS said:
I feel like he understands the game I feel like he is a smart WR Im not saying he isnt athletic Im just saying that his athleticism doesnt translate well to field. Thats all. I also hate that everyone turned this into a race thing. We can say that UT is Racist cause they took a black QB and him into a Wideout cause they fell blacks are capable of being QBs. Our fan base here in knoxville is to stuck on race much like South Carolina was and until we shake that we are going to get good players here we gonna get the left overs
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To the boldened you've actually posited a nice, reasonable observation that can actually stand up to some scrutiny.

The stuff after that reached escape velocity and is quickly on it's way out of the solar system.
 
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jspvol76 said:
I think most were joking about that, could be wrong though.
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I dont think so man I face racism quite a bit here in Knoxville. And if black and white had something to do with what goes on in football believe me most of the good black players would be playing at HBCUs. I honest dont think they were joking.
 
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#57
running fast in a straight line, without pads or anyone coming at you, is one of the most overrated numbers to look at. Id rather see how quick a guy gets up after a big hit or how quickly he bounces back after a mistake. oh and hands of gold as well. those are skills im impressed with
 
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Gilbert said:
His problem is catching the ball, not athleticism.
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This. Plus the fact that his older brother poisoned the family name by doing the same thing in previous years. Zach had to come in and wipe that "stigma" away. He has not.
 
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mcashawn0304 said:
Why does everyone think ZR is unathletic?
dude ran a 4.47 40
for comparison Randall Cobb ran a 4.46 at the nfl combine.

Rogers defeated Cobb in the high school state track meet 100 meter dash as well.

so my question is, what is the basis for calling him unathletic?
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Dont compare Rogers to cobb it makes you sound stupid.Zach Rogers has a better chance of being a proffesional figure skater than getting into the NFL.He wouldnt start for any other team in the SEC.Hes the football teams version of Stevie Pearl....lame.
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He's very fast but can't get open, break a tackle, or catch the ball consistently. I want him to be the man but he is far from a Randall Cobb, and that is a fact. How many state championships did he win in high school? Who put them out of the playoff's? He is fast and may be better at track that Cobb, BUT Randall Cobb is 10x the football players than he is. If you argue that then you are crazy or maybe related to him.
 
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I really don't know if he is or isn't athletic. As far as speed goes, He is too busy dropping the ball to show his "great" 4.47 40 speed to anyone.
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GBOVOLS said:
Race has nothing to do with it man stop that **** everyone respects wes welker and jordan shipley race has nothing to do with it.
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Are you willing to let this statement be challenged with actual statistical fact across multiple speed sports?

Simple test: #1 Remove any PC colored glasses.
#2 Determine the % of American citizens considered "white" and the number considered "black". "White" and "black" are stupid terms I know (on many levels), but that's the ones commonly used.
#3 Next determine the number of top sprinters, WRs, long jumpers, hurdlers, and center fielders in their sports. If the two sets of percentages are not basically the same, then would you be willing to consider "race". If the %s are extremely skewed , the would you reconsider?

Should we accept a few anomalies as true statistical reality? Just asking the Q since my career does not depend on being PC. :)
 
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Fast in a line and decent player.
Not shifty enough to be a better player, especially for his size.
I find it a little funny that many people on here talk about him not taking a hit or being afraid to get hit, yet haven't been running across the middle in the SEC with safeties that outweigh you by 30 lbs and are looking to knock you out. Pretty easy to call him out with a beer and remote. Take a look at the pros each week and you'll see guys short arm ball after ball in the middle of the field.
 
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Durability and Hands are ZR's issue.

I've seen him be fast on his way to a dropped ball. I've seen him be open enough to have a perfectly thrown ball sail through his hands. That tells me he's athletic enough to play the position just not gifted at the positions primary job. Add to this he's hurt often and you have a fast athletic guy who isn't always available and doesn't always catch the ball.

That he's STARTING tells you how ready the other players are in route running and or catching.

Milton - bad hands & endurance issues
Neal - Injury issues, green at position, & supposedly doesn't like to take a hit (per LWS)
Dallas & Arnette - green as can be and likely replacements later
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pl3 said:
Take a look at the pros each week and you'll see guys short arm ball after ball in the middle of the field.
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If Zach continues to do this he will lose his spot. He is going to have to step it up. The argument lies in whether he is capable of doing this or not.
 
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GBOVOLS said:
I feel like he understands the game I feel like he is a smart WR Im not saying he isnt athletic Im just saying that his athleticism doesnt translate well to field. Thats all. I also hate that everyone turned this into a race thing. We can say that UT is Racist cause they took a black QB and him into a Wideout cause they fell blacks are capable of being QBs. Our fan base here in knoxville is to stuck on race much like South Carolina was and until we shake that we are going to get good players here we gonna get the left overs
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3 of our top 4 QBs were Black...you made it about race.
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jspvol76 said:
If Zach continues to do this he will lose his spot. He is going to have to step it up. The argument lies in whether he is capable of doing this or not.
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Not sure that he is capable. The common comparison to former ut wr's would be to Craig Faulkner. CF wasn't as fast, but was pretty shifty and tough. I still remember a laid out, 1 handed grab in the middle of the field in Neyland. One of the top catches I have seen.
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Skeeter illustrated what ZR's yardage would have been last year if he had simply played all the games and it was sizable. If ZR can stay on the field he will do what we need and make plays. He won't make them all but no one does. He won't make as many as DR or JH but few can. If he's passed by another receiver then we'll be even better.
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Zack can only catch the ball when he is wide open. I have never seen him catch a ball in traffic. Have you noticed that twice this season, Da Rick caught a t.d. when he was double covered and he actually was not open but got it anyway?
Austin Rogers was not afraid to catch the ball, even though he was going to get hit hard and he also only caught the ball when he was wide open. His brother is the same way.
 
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DD4ME said:
Durability and Hands are ZR's issue.

I've seen him be fast on his way to a dropped ball. I've seen him be open enough to have a perfectly thrown ball sail through his hands. That tells me he's athletic enough to play the position just not gifted at the positions primary job. Add to this he's hurt often and you have a fast athletic guy who isn't always available and doesn't always catch the ball.

That he's STARTING tells you how ready the other players are in route running and or catching.

Milton - bad hands & endurance issues
Neal - Injury issues, green at position, & supposedly doesn't like to take a hit (per LWS)
Dallas & Arnette - green as can be and likely replacements later
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You just described Leonard Scott!!!!!
 
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I ran a 4.4 when I was in college, but I never had the leg strength to cut and change directions with the same speed. Someone that ran a 4.8 but could change direction could easily keep up with me running a route. There is much more to it than a 40 time mr davis
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Bleed-Orange said:
I ran a 4.4 when I was in college, but I never had the leg strength to cut and change directions with the same speed. Someone that ran a 4.8 but could change direction could easily keep up with me running a route. There is much more to it than a 40 time mr davis
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Post a video with an electronic timer and a guy holding your driver's license to prove it's you or you're full of baloney
 
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Here is what Dooley said about Z. Rogers, and I'm pretty sure he knows more about football than anyone on this board. He said, and I quote, "There has never been a question about Zach's ability. The question is his durability. We have full confidence in Zach, the problem is, he has had a difficult time staying healthy".

If Dooley is confident in the kids ability, then I definitely am.
 
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Game speed? Track speed? A 40 time is a 40 time. I'd like to see some of the posters on this boards track time. It would probably look alot more like Z. Rogers' ACT score!
 
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GBOVOLS said:
Man you dont know football its no way. You cant tell the difference between game speed and measured speed man its no way. If he ran a tru 4.47 do you know how fast that is man when has he out ranned someone or burned anyone off the line no one respects his speed thats why FLORIDA was able to man up on us once hunter got injured man. I also never seen him run his 40 time so that could be stretch like Bray weight 220
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This is off topic, but holy hell, learn to type in proper English. Every one of your posts, due to lack of punctuation and/or grammar, gives me a headache.
 
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