Zach Rogers

#26
#26
GBOVOLS said:
I also hate when people say that people are hating on Z. Rogers athleticism sorry he has the least athleticism off all the receivers the only reason why he is on the field is because I feel he is a coaches pet.
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Two things. No he doesn't... and WOW!

If there's anything that can pretty much be written out of the realm of possibilities it is that this staff plays favorites.

You have a bias against melanin challenged WR's don't you?
 
#27
#27
Kenny O Neal could outrun Zach backwards but wasn't even as good as Zach. Bill Bates was, comparitively speaking, a fairly weak athlete. Pretty darn good football player though.

Zach is absolutely athletic enough to be a very good football player. All that does is throw into sharp relief that if he doesn't succeed we know to look elsewhere. I'm quite confident that Milton is a darn fine athlete too but I haven't, as yet, seen a lot of great WR play.
 
#29
#29
Doesn't matter, coach is starting him. He may or may not eventually get passed up by one of the 2s, 3s or 4s. If so, that only means they've worked hard and performing better. But, on Saturday, against the Buffs, he's starting. Therefore, he is athletic enough, he is fast enough and he is an SEC caliber WR--at least as far as the coaches are concerned.
 
#30
#30
GBOVOLS said:
You stated Z. Roger athleticism and compared him to Cobb I feel like that Milton deserves a true chance on the field he cant do any worst than Z. Rogers.
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Well that settles it then. You had a "feeling"... what more proof of his worthiness do we need beyond that?

Seriously though. Yes... he can do much, MUCH worse.

Answer a question for me. Do you think Baggett would favor Rogers over someone else unless he deserved it? Do you think he'd stand for it if Dooley or Chaney tried to force him to?
With Z. Rogers on the field his GAME SPEED is so slow that Dbs can press up on our receivers.
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Oh. Now you're going to try to change the definition of "is" since you've been proven wrong about his athleticism.

ZR is athletic. He's plenty fast and quick enough. He runs good routes. He is intelligent and knows how to block.

His issues are that he's not physical or durable and needs to catch better.... (so does the other Rogers btw)
He changes the offensive scheme cause is lack of GAME TIME ATHLETICISM those measurble on a track with shorts and a T-shirt on doesnt mean anything.
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Dallas has not outperformed him. Arnett has not outperformed him. Milton has not outperformed any of the three.
 
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#31
sjt18 said:
Well that settles it then. You had a "feeling"... what more proof of his worthiness do we need beyond that?

Seriously though. Yes... he can do much, MUCH worse.

Answer a question for me. Do you think Baggett would favor Rogers over someone else unless he deserved it? Do you think he'd stand for it if Dooley or Chaney tried to force him to? Oh. Now you're going to try to change the definition of "is" since you've been proven wrong about his athleticism.

ZR is athletic. He's plenty fast and quick enough. He runs good routes. He is intelligent and knows how to block.

His issues are that he's not physical or durable and needs to catch better.... (so does the other Rogers btw)

Dallas has not outperformed him. Arnett has not outperformed him. Milton has not outperformed any of the three.
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:clapping::good!:
 
#32
#32
If he's white, he probably isn't athletic...but is usually smart.

Maybe he should be a safety. I heard Cincinnati had a good white safety.
 
#33
#33
sjt18 said:
Two things. No he doesn't... and WOW!

If there's anything that can pretty much be written out of the realm of possibilities it is that this staff plays favorites.

You have a bias against melanin challenged WR's don't you?
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He does wow!!! at all does is make fans say O **** here me fo, *****, Why is he in there I want you to point out when has been a reliable possesion receiver Gerald Jones never wowed anyone he did his job and if I remember was Z. Rogers hurt all camp or most off it from my memories so he didnt do much really he soft everytime you read practice report he got a red noncontact jersey on. If Z. Rogers is what you all consider a person who gets the job done or a viable 2nd Wr out wide then dont expect anything better than .500. I love Jordan Shipley(he's fast) Wes Welker(he's fast) Z. Rogers(he's slow)
 
#34
#34
GATechVOL said:
If he's white, he probably isn't athletic...but is usually smart.

Maybe he should be a safety. I heard Cincinnati had a good white safety.
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Not sure if serious...

In 08 Zach simultaneously had a TN 100m title, 200m title & Long Jump title. That's actually some pretty serious stuff.
 
#36
#36
He is not plenty fast the TE out run Dbs befor Z. Rogers man we in for a long season if Z. Rogers is fast man lol. Yall must watch the game fast forwarded
 
#37
#37
GBOVOLS said:
He does wow!!! at all does is make fans say O **** here me fo, *****, Why is he in there I want you to point out when has been a reliable possesion receiver Gerald Jones never wowed anyone he did his job and if I remember was Z. Rogers hurt all camp or most off it from my memories so he didnt do much really he soft everytime you read practice report he got a red noncontact jersey on. If Z. Rogers is what you all consider a person who gets the job done or a viable 2nd Wr out wide then dont expect anything better than .500. I love Jordan Shipley(he's fast) Wes Welker(he's fast) Z. Rogers(he's slow)
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you can argue talent and football ability all you want, but you cant argue speed. stop trying
 
#38
#38
GBOVOLS said:
I also hate when people say that people are hating on Z. Rogers athleticism sorry he has the least athleticism off all the receivers the only reason why he is on the field is because I feel he is a coaches pet.
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So you're saying our well-respected, experienced and knowledgeable African-American receiver coach would sacrifice our success in the game because he has a pet player, who happens to be one of the fastest guys on the team, as well as one of the most experienced and is also Caucasian. But it is not about race? Yet, in your mind that same coach should take an unproven, less experienced, somewhat slower player and just send him out there to give him his due opportunity? But it is not about race?

So, what is it about then? If we had a 6'5" former QB who was recruited as an athlete and retrained to be a WR but was White, would you still be making this argument? Probably not.
 
#39
#39
hndog609 said:
Not sure if serious...

In 08 Zach simultaneously had a TN 100m title, 200m title & Long Jump title. That's actually some pretty serious stuff.
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You can go off of timed information you can teach someone how to run a 100 or 200m dash even the 40 look at the tape man he isnt out running anyone and winning the 200 and 100 in the state of TN is not that impressive man this state lack all sorts of Athletes
 
#40
#40
GBOVOLS said:
You can go off of timed information you can teach someone how to run a 100 or 200m dash even the 40 look at the tape man he isnt out running anyone and winning the 200 and 100 in the state of TN is not that impressive man this state lack all sorts of Athletes
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randall cobb was a high school athlete in the state of tennessee at the time...
 
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GBOVOLS said:
You can go off of timed information you can teach someone how to run a 100 or 200m dash even the 40 look at the tape man he isnt out running anyone and winning the 200 and 100 in the state of TN is not that impressive man this state lack all sorts of Athletes
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If that's the best you got it's a pretty weak effort. That 200m time was actually a top 100 time in the nation that year. (around 80 IIRC)
 
#42
#42
GBOVOLS said:
He does wow!!! at all does is make fans say O **** here me fo, *****, Why is he in there I want you to point out when has been a reliable possesion receiver
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I don't have to point out anything except the obvious. He DOES have SEC caliber athleticism that is at a minimum on par with Dallas and Arnett.... and a guy who coached Randy Moss apparently thinks he's UT's next best option.

Gerald Jones never wowed anyone he did his job and if I remember was Z. Rogers hurt all camp or most off it from my memories so he didnt do much really he soft everytime you read practice report he got a red noncontact jersey on.
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If you actually read my posts... I said one of his big issues was durability.
If Z. Rogers is what you all consider a person who gets the job done or a viable 2nd Wr out wide then dont expect anything better than .500.
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Feel welcome to search my posts. I said before the season and then reemphasized after the Hunter injury that if UT does not run the ball then they are a 6 win team at best. Hunter was even better than I expected. He was changing my mind to believing he was good enough to mitigate the lack of a running game. Unfortunately... that's no longer an option.
I love Jordan Shipley(he's fast) Wes Welker(he's fast) Z. Rogers(he's slow)
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If you thought ZR was slow then you were misinformed. If you still think he's slow... then you have other, more significant, issues starting with being too proud to admit when you're wrong... forcing you to defend false positions in attempt to save face that only makes you look stupid.

If you really can't swallow your pride and admit you are wrong... your best course of action is probably to just drop it.
 
#43
#43
mcashawn0304 said:
you can argue talent and football ability all you want, but you cant argue speed. stop trying
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Man you dont know football its no way. You cant tell the difference between game speed and measured speed man its no way. If he ran a tru 4.47 do you know how fast that is man when has he out ranned someone or burned anyone off the line no one respects his speed thats why FLORIDA was able to man up on us once hunter got injured man. I also never seen him run his 40 time so that could be stretch like Bray weight 220
 
#44
#44
So Im guessing we all agree then that Zack Roger is as fast as Justin Hunter and Da'Rick Rogers
 
#45
#45
He has not got the job done yet. If he had, he would have already been a starter. The guy is limited and has not helped himself by dropping passes.

He will make a great high school coach in Knoxville at some point in the near future after playing a stint in the arena league.
 
#46
#46
GBOVOLS said:
Man you dont know football its no way. You cant tell the difference between game speed and measured speed man its no way. If he ran a tru 4.47 do you know how fast that is man when has he out ranned someone or burned anyone off the line no one respects his speed thats why FLORIDA was able to man up on us once hunter got injured man. I also never seen him run his 40 time so that could be stretch like Bray weight 220
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This is just getting hysterical. You sound like someone else I know who doesn't like facts because they get in the way of their argument.
 
#47
#47
GBOVOLS said:
Cobb plays fast Z. Rogers doesnt. Game speed is totally different. You cant compar Cobbs game speed to Z...Face it I would rather have Milton on the field that will give us a chance that have Rogers on the field.
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+1

Also, did anyone mention he's white?
 
#48
#48
Ok lets see how many of yall think he's fast after Saturday. Lets see how man break away TDs he has since he runs a 4.4 and has top speed.
 
#50
#50
GBOVOLS said:
Ok lets see how many of yall think he's fast after Saturday. Lets see how man break away TDs he has since he runs a 4.4 and has top speed.
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It's his getting the ball in his hands that's the problem, not the speed. Leonard Scott is the fastest guy that's every worn the Orange (and yes that includes Gault and Graddy) but he was a pretty darn mediocre receiver. (pretty good return guy though) In fact, Zach'd probably be starting over him now too.
 
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