You want to stop the bleeding?

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EtowahVol said:
Go after Matt Patricia at Ohio State rite now. He's making 2.5 now. Make him tell me no. Do it or get ready for 7 and 5 the next 3 years.
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I think CJH is one of those folks we've all seen who when challenged about replacing a co-worker doubles down on keeping them when everyone is calling for their replacement . Maybe it's from not being comfortable letting a friend go, or from not liking being told how to run his staff, but whatever reason he's ignored it for too long
 
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volfeeva said:
I think CJH is one of those folks we've all seen who when challenged about replacing a co-worker doubles down on keeping them when everyone is calling for their replacement . Maybe it's from not being comfortable letting a friend go, or from not liking being told how to run his staff, but whatever reason he's ignored it for too long
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I’ve had plenty of friends ask if I could get them on with my employer. I’ve told each of them that I could easily do that but if they embarrassed me and made me look bad, I’d fire them personally. Needless to say, none of them wanted to work under that condition. I keep work and personal lives separate and won’t allow one to interfere with the other. Heupel should’ve learned that lesson by now.
 
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EtowahVol said:
Go after Matt Patricia at Ohio State rite now. He's making 2.5 now. Make him tell me no. Do it or get ready for 7 and 5 the next 3 years.
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It's a great idea but what would make Matt Patricia leave a highly paid job where his defense reloads itself year after year after year?

It's not the money we can throw at him, which we probably could, but we cannot match the elite players Ohio State provides him with every season.

If you think he's going to bring a room full of players with him to Knoxville from Ohio State, you're talking about our entire NIL budget just to get them to leave a near certain CFP school for UT.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
It's a great idea but what would make Matt Patricia leave a highly paid job where his defense reloads itself year after year after year?

It's not the money we can throw at him, which we probably could, but we cannot match the elite players Ohio State provides him with every season.

If you think he's going to bring a room full of players with him to Knoxville from Ohio State, you're talking about our entire NIL budget just to get them to leave a near certain CFP school for UT.
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In other words....pipe dream. Why not.money whip saban out of retirement? Yeah...that's ridiculous, too.
 
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EtowahVol said:
Go after Matt Patricia at Ohio State rite now. He's making 2.5 now. Make him tell me no. Do it or get ready for 7 and 5 the next 3 years.
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Making 2.5 what? Why does he have to tell you no? Is 7 and 5 different than 2.5? I’m trying to figure out what all these numbers mean. I guess I’ll play along…. 3 and 9 and 1 and 4.6 and 8.1….this is fun
 
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CAVPUT said:
In other words....pipe dream. Why not.money whip saban out of retirement? Yeah...that's ridiculous, too.
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I mean, Matt Patricia would be an amazing coach at UT but you cannot use coaches to plug personnel holes.

Ohio State GETS Patricia to come there because he's working with extremely talented players year after year. He's not continually stopping the bleeding at Ohio State; he's refining the elite talent they recruit and portal every year.

It's recruiting, not coaching, that stops the bleeding.
 
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VolRage said:
I’ve had plenty of friends ask if I could get them on with my employer. I’ve told each of them that I could easily do that but if they embarrassed me and made me look bad, I’d fire them personally. Needless to say, none of them wanted to work under that condition. I keep work and personal lives separate and won’t allow one to interfere with the other. Heupel should’ve learned that lesson by now.
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I agree with you.

Just remember his story.
He was a scape for Bob Stoops. He never wants to do that to anyone else.

But he needs to do that.
 
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I’m not trying to be rude, but some of you all have a misplaced sense of where Tennessee fits in the college football landscape. Patricia isn’t leaving Ohio State for Tennessee for any reason, but especially if it’s only about money. Ohio State would match or even exceed whatever Tennessee offered.
 
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Boston Vol said:
I’m not trying to be rude, but some of you all have a misplaced sense of where Tennessee fits in the college football landscape. Patricia isn’t leaving Ohio State for Tennessee, especially if it’s only about money. Ohio State would match or even exceed whatever Tennessee offered.
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Oh, come on, be rude. You live in Boston, it won't be the first time. 😉
 
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volfeeva said:
I think CJH is one of those folks we've all seen who when challenged about replacing a co-worker doubles down on keeping them when everyone is calling for their replacement . Maybe it's from not being comfortable letting a friend go, or from not liking being told how to run his staff, but whatever reason he's ignored it for too long
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You may be right and that's where White has to step in and provide some professional leadership and development with that mindset
 
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If you are positive you want Banks replaced, why wouldn't you find a successful DC that doesn't have as much talent as Ohio State? We don't/won't have the same talent level at all positions as Ohio State does. Assuming that someone, that is dealing with the best talent possible, is successful where they are will translate into success in other places doesn't sound full proof to me.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
You may be right and that's where White has to step in and provide some professional leadership and development with that mindset
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Fulmer was the same way, except for Cutcliff, Fulmer was surrounded by middle of the road coordinators, assistants and position coaches. Randy Sanders became the head coach at ETSU and Fulmer's Folly, Dave Clawson, eventually became the head coach at Wake Forest, retiring in 2024 after a decent 10 year run at a basketball school. But other than these former offensive cootdinators, Fulmer has no coaching "tree" of staff members that became high division one head coaches. Heupel has already "Fulmerized" his program after a 5 year run, with a unique playoff berth and blowout last year, along with a Orange Bowl win over an over rated Clemson team in 2022, blowing the playoff opportunity getting blown out at South Carolina while wearing orange helmets.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
It's a great idea but what would make Matt Patricia leave a highly paid job where his defense reloads itself year after year after year?

It's not the money we can throw at him, which we probably could, but we cannot match the elite players Ohio State provides him with every season.

If you think he's going to bring a room full of players with him to Knoxville from Ohio State, you're talking about our entire NIL budget just to get them to leave a near certain CFP school for UT.
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