You want to stop the bleeding?

#26
#26
Wtf? We’re not poaching Ohio State’s staff unless we’re offering them a promotion. Ohio State is a superior program to Tennessee, by any metric you want to look at. Taking the DC job here is not even a lateral move for Patricia. It’s a downgrade. If we have identified one of their position coaches as DC material, then ok.
 
#27
#27
SayUWantAreVOLution said:
It's a great idea but what would make Matt Patricia leave a highly paid job where his defense reloads itself year after year after year?

It's not the money we can throw at him, which we probably could, but we cannot match the elite players Ohio State provides him with every season.

If you think he's going to bring a room full of players with him to Knoxville from Ohio State, you're talking about our entire NIL budget just to get them to leave a near certain CFP school for UT.
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If you don't ask, it will never happen. Explore the field and go after the best available.
 
#28
#28
TartanTurff said:
Fulmer was the same way, except for Cutcliff, Fulmer was surrounded by middle of the road coordinators, assistants and position coaches. Randy Sanders became the head coach at ETSU and Fulmer's Folly, Dave Clawson, eventually became the head coach at Wake Forest, retiring in 2024 after a decent 10 year run at a basketball school. But other than these former offensive cootdinators, Fulmer has no coaching "tree" of staff members that became high division one head coaches. Heupel has already "Fulmerized" his program after a 5 year run, with a unique playoff berth and blowout last year, along with a Orange Bowl win over an over rated Clemson team in 2022, blowing the playoff opportunity getting blown out at South Carolina while wearing orange helmets.
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I do agree with you about Fulmer but totally disagree about Heupel already being "Fulmerized". Alex Golesh just took the Auburn job. I would say Banks may take another job too as HC at a lower level. It's ridiculous how you dismiss the 2022 squad.
 
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#29
VOLINVONORE said:
If you don't ask, it will never happen. Explore the field and go after the best available.
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Sure, Saban has an agent too but that doesn't mean he'll return your call. There's zero harm in asking Matt Patricia but it's not a serious possibility.

In other news, I'm asking Paul McCartney to play my next birthday party. It's a simple thing in the backyard but I think he'd be a great get......
 
#31
#31
SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I mean, Matt Patricia would be an amazing coach at UT but you cannot use coaches to plug personnel holes.

Ohio State GETS Patricia to come there because he's working with extremely talented players year after year. He's not continually stopping the bleeding at Ohio State; he's refining the elite talent they recruit and portal every year.

It's recruiting, not coaching, that stops the bleeding.
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False dichotomy. You need both. Look how bad OSU's defense was before Knowles got there.
 
#32
#32
TartanTurff said:
Fulmer was the same way, except for Cutcliff, Fulmer was surrounded by middle of the road coordinators, assistants and position coaches. Randy Sanders became the head coach at ETSU and Fulmer's Folly, Dave Clawson, eventually became the head coach at Wake Forest, retiring in 2024 after a decent 10 year run at a basketball school. But other than these former offensive cootdinators, Fulmer has no coaching "tree" of staff members that became high division one head coaches. Heupel has already "Fulmerized" his program after a 5 year run, with a unique playoff berth and blowout last year, along with a Orange Bowl win over an over rated Clemson team in 2022, blowing the playoff opportunity getting blown out at South Carolina while wearing orange helmets.
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I like that word “cootdinator”
 
#33
#33
SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I mean, Matt Patricia would be an amazing coach at UT but you cannot use coaches to plug personnel holes.

Ohio State GETS Patricia to come there because he's working with extremely talented players year after year. He's not continually stopping the bleeding at Ohio State; he's refining the elite talent they recruit and portal every year.

It's recruiting, not coaching, that stops the bleeding.
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True. Maybe the best thing to do is start offering big salaries to the coordinators at OSU, Georgia, Oregon, Bama, etc. and force those now-top programs to boost all their coaches' salaries in order to keep 'em. Eventually those rising staff costs has got to eat into their NIL coffers.

It'd be like Reagan's "Star Wars" strategy of forcing the Soviets to keep spending keep-up money until they went bankrupt.

'Cause let's face it: college football is a money game right now. On-field results are basically weekly stockholders reports.
 
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