You think hiring a proven HC doesn't matter?

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VolArmy74 said:
One walked into a place on fire with angry fans who struggled for several years recruiting, who had replaced their coach multiple times in a short period of time and only won 4 games last season. The other coach was Pruitt.
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Hmmm, one walked into a program that was three years removed from back to back East titles, a ultra rich recruiting base, two NCs, a Heisman winner and has only 2 losing seasons since 2006. The other one was Pruitt. So keep it up.
 
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If FL has more talent ( stars or coached up ) than us, it's not by that much. We are in the same ball park on talent.

We destroyed ourselves against FL and that is on our staff. FL did not destroy themselves and that is on Mullen and his staff. Mullen out coached Pruitt in that game.

Now, I'm still not ready to give up on Pruitt and staff. Not yet, no way. He has great potential. He is installing a practice structure he learned from Saban where more depth is created at the expense of the starters not getting all the reps. It's a tough slow process but eventually I think it will pay off. In the present, it sucks. Starters are making a ton of mistakes. Give it time.

Also, the offensive side of the ball is my only worry with Pruitt. Does he know what he is doing? Does his coordinator know what he is doing? Well.... time and results will tell. If Pruitt doesn't get a really good offense rolling, he has to get it fixed. He has to fix it, or hire someone who can.

Sucks that we didn't get Mullen. But, we got a young inexperienced high potential coach, and it very well could pay off..................with time.

Let's suck it up one more time as a fan base, and be patient, and hope for the payoff. Because there is evidence that Pruitt can get it done, if we bare with him through the growing pains. Forgive a misstep or two, be patient, and let this man master his craft.

FL and GA may win some battles, but we may win the war ( the first to win the national championship between the 3 of us. That's the war ).
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Hmmm, one walked into a program that was three years removed from back to back East titles, a ultra rich recruiting base, two NCs, a Heisman winner and has only 2 losing seasons since 2006. The other one was Pruitt. So keep it up.
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Those Urban titles were in the very very very very distant rearview mirror for that program. Tennessee is now a top 6 recruiting state. That excuse no longer files. Florida was a dumpster fire. Period.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
Those Urban titles were in the very very very very distant rearview mirror for that program. Tennessee is now a top 6 recruiting state. That excuse no longer files. Florida was a dumpster fire. Period.
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If Florida was a dumpster fire, then what were we?
 
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MeanOrange said:
Only reason we did not beat UF 4 straight years was Butch Jones. UF just beat LSU.
They are 5 -1 and 3 -1 in the SEC. I guess UF was loaded to begin this year?
Looks like they do not have to wait 4 years to turn it around.
I am not throwing JP under the bus. This is aimed at the UT decision makers.
You get what you pay for and UT is just not willing to do that.
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If you get what you pay for then Nebraska, UCLA and fsu are sure getting screwed
 
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I like Mullen. I liked the hire at the time and still do. I still don't know if he will get Florida to the promised land.

I wouldn't make definitive statements about anything in the first week of October in Year 1.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
Those Urban titles were in the very very very very distant rearview mirror for that program. Tennessee is now a top 6 recruiting state. That excuse no longer files. Florida was a dumpster fire. Period.
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Yeah winning back to back East titles in 15 and 16 is a dumpster fire. Again, Muschamp had 1 losing season and JM had 1. But like I said, keep it up. Lol.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Hmmm, one walked into a program that was three years removed from back to back East titles, a ultra rich recruiting base, two NCs, a Heisman winner and has only 2 losing seasons since 2006. The other one was Pruitt. So keep it up.
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Werent those 2 east titles aided by tennessee not being able to beat them?
Could be wrong but im pretty sure the common consensus around here has been we have been better or equal to Florida over the last 3-4 years.
 
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MeanOrange said:
Only reason we did not beat UF 4 straight years was Butch Jones. UF just beat LSU.
They are 5 -1 and 3 -1 in the SEC. I guess UF was loaded to begin this year?
Looks like they do not have to wait 4 years to turn it around.
I am not throwing JP under the bus. This is aimed at the UT decision makers.
You get what you pay for and UT is just not willing to do that.
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Some don't want to admit it, but Florida usually has better talent than Tennessee, it is what it is (and I don't like saying that)
 
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It's so bizarre that we have to keep having the same conversations year after year. Do people really not understand the difference between coaches like Frost, Kelly, or Mullen vs. Pruitt? Really? We have no idea if Pruitt can be a head coach. With all due respect, I would have been a very successful coordinator at Alabama, as would anyone else on this board. It's not to say he isn't going to be good, but standing there while NS coaches the defense doesn't prove anything.
 
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volfannbama said:
Werent those 2 east titles aided by tennessee not being able to beat them?
Could be wrong but im pretty sure the common consensus around here has been we have been better or equal to Florida over the last 3-4 years.
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It might be a common consensus, but its fools gold. Go back and look at UT/UF through the years. Their guys have almost always looked faster and overall better. Yes, those titles were aided by TN screwups. But, some want to think Mullen and Pruitt walked into similar situations. No they did not. Not even remotely.
 
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photovol said:
Some don't want to admit it, but Florida usually has better talent than Tennessee, it is what it is (and I don't like saying that)
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I played baseball at UT and Florida beat us 7 out of 10 time because they had better talent
 
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TJ1985 said:
So, those that had respect for DM's coaching and thought he would be a good hire are trolls? I was one of those people. No one is throwing Pruitt under the bus.

And btw, I don't care if my coach is a dork, a pirate, a redneck, a yankee, or anything else. I care about winning. You?
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No the trolls are the ones panicking because Florida is having success so they say our coach isn’t good enough. Comments like “when are we going to demand a winning coach?” are ridiculous.

Fulmer says Pruitt is a hell of a coach. I’m willing to give Pruitt time before bitching all over the forums.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
It might be a common consensus, but its fools gold. Go back and look at UT/UF through the years. Their guys have almost always looked faster and overall better. Yes, those titles were aided by TN screwups. But, some want to think Mullen and Pruitt walked into similar situations. No they did not. Not even remotely.
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I see us making excuses for looking like trash. I call that fools gold.

But in one respect,.yeah it's an unfair comparison. Mullen has lots of hc experience and pruitt has none. I think thats the ops point, as long as we are content taking a back seat to florida...we will take a back seat to florida.
 
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Hell look at Herman at Texas...He's turned them around...Kelly and Frost will get their teams turned around and we'll still be hoping for that big win over SOME SEC team so we can celebrate...I am giving Pruitt a chance but I honestly do not believe in him as a head coach...He is trying to turn us back into that old fashioned boring grind em I offense we used for years when it was relevant....It's not working...UF had the same record we did last year and look at them winning NOW.,..Mullen is adjusting to other teams styles and beating them in the trenches...He is outcoaching other teams....Makes me sad knowing we have what we have and going to be stuck with it for years.
 
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We are gonna be searching for our next no experience head coach that has no business being in the sec in four years.

Pruitt offense is a joke.

We barely came out of this week without a loss and BYE hasn’t won a game since it became part of the NCAA.
 
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volfannbama said:
I see us making excuses for looking like trash. I call that fools gold.

But in one respect,.yeah it's an unfair comparison. Mullen has lots of hc experience and pruitt has none. I think thats the ops point, as long as we are content taking a back seat to florida...we will take a back seat to florida.
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Your tired old "excuses". Lol. You continue to confuse excuses with reality.

Content to losing to UF? Who is content? The fact is, even our best teams could not beat UF on a consistent basis.
 
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Amusing argument here about the talent level. Miss St isnt exactly a hot bed yet he was successful there against much better competition
 
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VOLnMiami said:
Hell look at Herman at Texas...He's turned them around...Kelly and Frost will get their teams turned around and we'll still be hoping for that big win over SOME SEC team so we can celebrate...I am giving Pruitt a chance but I honestly do not believe in him as a head coach...He is trying to turn us back into that old fashioned boring grind em I offense we used for years when it was relevant....It's not working...UF had the same record we did last year and look at them winning NOW.,..Mullen is adjusting to other teams styles and beating them in the trenches...He is outcoaching other teams....Makes me sad knowing we have what we have and going to be stuck with it for years.
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It's not Mullen, It's the players, Mullen has much much more talent to work with, now it's also aparent that Pruitt is learning on the go and I hate that, but again it is what it is.
Pruitt's not the coach Mullen is, at least not right now, I'm not sure he will ever be the coach Mullen is, time will tell
 
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