You Suck as a Volunteers Fan...

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jakez4ut said:
that's pretty strong right there. good work.

now, should i laugh or cry?
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I've got a good memory. Which is a curse when it comes to this program.

At this point, there is nothing to do but laugh, shake your head, and vent your frustration on the internet.
 
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FLSTF-VOL said:
But who are you to tell anyone how they should act as a fan? It's your opinion and nothing else. I don't feel uncomfortable about the way I feel or act as a fan. What I am reacting to is some pompous person on a message board preaching to people he knows nothing about, about something he only qualifies in his own head.

You can scour this forum and you will never find a single post where I have advocated that CBJ be fired at this time. And honestly the ones that have I simply chock up to them being an emotional passionate fan that is showing frustration.

Do I think CBJ has a major coaching deficiency on game day that could manifest into a fatal flaw? Yes Do I think he can overcome it and become the coach we all want? Maybe. But I can say with certainty that all the top ten recruiting classes, the depth building etc will be for nothing if he can't coach on game day. I mean you would agree that winning is the goal, right? And no we can't afford a coach that is on a learning curve. You can't build a program on losses.

Now if that makes me a bad fan in you're eyes, you can kiss it. It's my opinion, I'm entitled to it.
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and you are entitled to your opinion...as much as the optimistic crowd who are continually wire brushed by you and the others who have given up on the team....and yes, that includes the coaches.
 
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I haven't seen anyone calling for a coaching change this moment but rather those who see the writing on the wall if we continue on this trend. Jones has done excellent as an ambassador of the program and bringing in elite talent, but more games than not have been lost that were clearly winnable under his regime. Yes he inherited a dumpster fire, but what new coach doesn't following the previous HC being fired? The majority of successful coaches are successful by year 2-3 or not at all. Why is our situation unique from others? For the record I'm not calling for Jones head, but my support for him is wavering. Love the man, but I love a winning Tennessee football program first and foremost. I hope he's the guy to get us back there, because we sure won't find a classier guy to do it.
 
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I don't post much, but look at this everyday. I took my youngest son to his first UT game the last time we played Auburn. We were blown out as you guys know. We should be 4-0 as everybody knows. WE have much better talent and now can play with most every team. If CBJ can change his in game (4thQ) decisions we will get better and win most of our remaining games. If not our season will not be anywhere near expectations. Go VOLS!
 
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OP sucks at starting threads and posing as an erudite, yet wishes to just spew pablum as self aggrandizement.
 
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If I have to wear the label "Vol fan who sucks" for the rest of Jones tenure and my complaints somehow contribute to a volume of complaints that actually gets him to change and become a winner.... Call me whatever you want.

The guy has to change. Not next year. Not after he learns. RIGHT NOW. This isn't to satisfy me. This is to change a trajectory that will get him fired.

If he commits the same mistakes again, even Bielema will beat him.
 
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musolfmj said:
So the OP has 70 "Likes". That's somewhat telling. Does anybody know what the record is?
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I have no idea what the record is and it's difficult to precisely identify those attributes that will earn a massive number of "likes" for any given post. Sarcasm-laced text often garners "inordinate" praise on this forum; posting tweeted data on recruits quickly pumps up the stat line on the Recruiting Forum. Strangely enough, I once got 145 likes just for posting a lengthy and most gracious thank you from Michael Palardy, one that he posted on his Facebook page shortly after the conclusion of his playing career. His communique was directed in part to VolNation, as well as everyone who had supported or motivated him throughout his tenure at the University of Tennessee (http://www.volnation.com/forum/tenn...sity-tennessee.html?highlight=Michael+Palardy).
 
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volgrad500 said:
I've seen like 2 posters call for a change. There has been more threads condemning posters who want Butch fired, than actual posters who want Butch fired.
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Yeah it's usually the supporter of Butch that accuse other of wanting that, or getting in one the first page of a thread and say Fire the Coach without even mentioning the blue font. After the sarcastic comment people run with it. I pointed it out a few days back when someone did precisely that.

I also haven't heard anyone say they want the team to lose, so that to me is support the team if we indeed want them to win.

As far as player criticism goes, if people are then shame on them. But this is Merica, and a forum, it's bound to happen unfortunely. To me when a player doesn't perform well it's the coaches fault. Call me crazy but that's part of their jobs. Player development and putting players in the position to succeed is right on up there with game management.

I can overlook a few mistakes a coach makes here and there, but not a continual problem. Again I hope he figures it out, but it doesn't look promising. And I refuse to sit back and be blind to it. This is a forum, a place to discuss. So whether you agree with a poster or not doesn't mean this isn't the place for it.
 
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Volosaurus rex said:
I have no idea what the record is and it's difficult to precisely identify those attributes that will earn a massive number of "likes" for any given post. Sarcasm-laced text often garners "inordinate" praise on this forum; posting tweeted data on recruits quickly pumps up the stat line on the Recruiting Forum. Strangely enough, I once got 145 likes just for posting a lengthy and most gracious thank you from Michael Palardy, one that he posted on his Facebook page shortly after the conclusion of his playing career. His communique was directed in part to VolNation, as well as everyone who had supported or motivated him throughout his tenure at the University of Tennessee (http://www.volnation.com/forum/tenn...sity-tennessee.html?highlight=Michael+Palardy).
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The highest I've seen (other than VFL34) was a guy that simply posted "because they don't over react like our dumbass fanbase"... received something around 150 likes. Kinda telling.
 
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Boca Vol said:
Butch isn't going anywhere. Anyone that thinks he is needs to come to that reality.

The ones going off the deep-end are the ones that called anyone with a "wait and see" attitude a nega-vol, or told them to go cheer for _____________.

I think most of the frustration comes from the fact that both OU & UF were won. We just had to wait for the clock to hit 0:00. It wasn't like losses in the past where we were blown out (Bama, OU, Ole Miss, Oregon) or just came up short in a comeback effort (UGA).

There are many positive things going on with the program. UT just needs to complete the circle and win the games. The good news is in the SEC there are plenty of chances left (Ark, UGA, Bama, USC, Mizzou) to get some quality wins.
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Well Put Boca! You also have to factor in the 3-7 years prior and seeing us being forgotten about and going from one of the traditional powers to also rans. There were a lot of games in that period that were hard to stomach and watch where we as fans thought we had turned to corner and were going to be competitive again. And there were games where we looked like we would never even compete again. Now we are actually competing and could have won some big games, except we couldn't make the plays when we needed to.
 
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Glad to "see" you around JP.
Good OP. I really appreciate how you went into so much detail to narrow it down to the most... Well, you know. Then added "so if you are offended by this"..
Then to see how many were offended. Priceless.
 
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JC61 said:
Still on the flank with you JP.

My first words when UF made the TD, "that's it...they got to be cursed". I moped around the rest of Saturday and most of Sunday.

Yet, I still refuse to join the single point of failure crowd...plenty of coulda, woulda, shoulda examples for both the coaches and the players...it is a total team effort.

Listening to various pundits Monday while driving....almost everyone is jumping on the bandwagon to burn Jones at the stake...almost to an embarrassing degree of group think. Tom Lugginbill was the only guy who took a more rational and cautious approach when discussing what happened w/ the VOLS in the Swamp and it was nice to hear a different take on things
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When you make the money CBJ makes, the fan base has an inarguable right to expect more. Bad execution 2 or 3 times in basic situations is on the players. Repeated poor execution is on the coaches. Continued poor play calling is coaching. Poor clock management is coaching. We aren't paying a UC salary but, 3 years in, were are still getting it.

Now, having said that, the two losses were blown leads not blow outs. I think the talent on the field is growing by leaps and bounds. What will be a shame is returning to what we had with Philmer. Where the team on the field had to try to win in spite of him.

Bottom line, my wife and my families have put enough kids through UT and bought enough season tickets that if I want to ***** on a message board I will.
 
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chargervol said:
Glad to "see" you around JP.
Good OP. I really appreciate how you went into so much detail to narrow it down to the most... Well, you know. Then added "so if you are offended by this"..
Then to see how many were offended. Priceless.
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Offensive posts are offensive a beg responses. Otherwise, there is no point in posting them.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
When you make the money CBJ makes, the fan base has an inarguable right to expect more. Bad execution 2 or 3 times in basic situations is on the players. Repeated poor execution is on the coaches. Continued poor play calling is coaching. Poor clock management is coaching. We aren't paying a UC salary but, 3 years in, were are still getting it.

Now, having said that, the two losses were blown leads not blow outs. I think the talent on the field is growing by leaps and bounds. What will be a shame is returning to what we had with Philmer. Where the team on the field had to try to win in spite of him.

Bottom line, my wife and my families have put enough kids through UT and bought enough season tickets that if I want to ***** on a message board I will.
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Well I certainly hope that your kids received an education???? I mean if you paid so much to put your kids through UT and losing a football game makes that somehow related, you have a real gripe here sir.

I also hope that you got to attend the games you paid for. Most teams charge you for attending, not for guaranteed outcomes. But if your tickets for admission somehow came with promises of who would win, darn it man, they should give you a refund!

Not really serious, but I couldn't help but give you a hard time with the wording :hi:
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
Offensive posts are offensive a beg responses. Otherwise, there is no point in posting them.
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You missed the point.
He was dedicated in making sure that the post shouldn't offend anyone unless they had gone well beyond the normal and deserved reactions.
 
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So what exactly are we supposed to be doing here? I am a VFL but that doesn't mean that I have to LIKE what the coaches have done in the two games that matter this year. Which is lose BOTH of them by making bush league decisions. And I have not heard much clamor for CBJ's head YET. Now Debord? Hell, he should have been gone after the Okies beat us. Is THAT being a negavol? If so, sign me up. This ain't the Bobsy twins at Sunnybrook farm.
 
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Quite possibly the most egotistical post I've ever read on here. That's really saying something.

I've been a Vol fan for 30 years. I don't want Butch fired and I don't trash players, but I sure as hell want a coach to have a grasp of simple math. He deserves to be called out for that. And no, I won't go cheer for Bama. Quit talking about other poster's egos when you're clearly working overtime to satisfy your own.
 
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