You fans better HOPE...

9-4 = 70%.
In 1249 all-time games, UT's has a 68.2 winning percentage.
If Butch goes 9-4 every year for 20 years, he'll have improved our all-time number.

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I'm not defending Jones or arguing that he has been successful. I'm addressing your comment that you don't want him here "successful or not". I interpret that as saying you would want him gone even if he went on a Saban-like run. That just comes across as blind hatred but maybe I read it wrong. It's early and I haven't had my required allotment of coffee.

If he truly was on a Saban level, I could probably get used to him. But I know he will never come close to that level.

I see what the LSU folks did to Les Miles as a show that they aren't willing to accept mediocrity even for a short period of time. Les was a much better coach and recruiter than Jones. I do not want a coach here that says 8-4 or 9-3 is a good record and be content with that every year. We deserve and must strive for netter.
 
This is what Tennessee has become...now we have to beg our inept, under-achieving coach not to leave one of the better jobs in the country because he beat a mediocre Florida and a miserable Georgia team. Unbelievable.
 
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Personal family shots....cool.

Look, if you don't like my participation here, feel free to ignore me.

Unless you're Butch Jones, what I refer to him as has nothing to do with you. I didn't declare anything other than my opinion, and have made it perfectly clear.

Anything else?

No shot at all! I don't ignore people just because I don't like their opinion, nor do I resort to name calling which seems like it's becoming your specialty. Heck, I enjoy Maryville College football! I'm just not your little man; that's all!!
 
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I'm so thankful that occasionally the REAL fans find the time to post something so poignant and stirring. It really keeps the fanbase grounded, centered, and focused on what's important.

The Buzzcut-Messiah shall unite us all around 8 win seasons and consecutive lower tier bowl games. Recruits love that stuff too.

Buzzcut Messiah is much more politically correct.

Well done :clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping:
 
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No you're not MY little man, but your left handed reference of my son does show you to be THE little man I identified you as. If "little man" qualifies as name calling in your book you should probably seek a safe space, and do some adult coloring.

You're simply a stalker with no relevant information to offer other than ridicule...,which is why you brought up something from nearly 5 years ago. It's cool if you don't like me....I don't much care for you. But I'm not going to follow you around and fling feces to prove it.

LOL; where is your relevant information? That's the main difference between groups of fans; your group gets mad if we disagree, and then you resort to insults. I guess you forgot that you brought up the "little man" comment. If I were going to stalk someone, I'd find someone with facts not opinions. I couldn't care less who you like or don't like or that you got your feelings hurt. Finally, I'm from a time with no safe spaces; however, I'm not shocked that you are familiar with the concept.
 
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that Butch is content to stay here for a long time! Yes I said it! So many of you want/expect him to fall on his face! The fact is this University is an absolute mess from an administrative standpoint...and guess what...it ALL STARTS THERE! So if/when Butch is shown the door don't expect for there to be an endless line of high profile coaches to come knocking! We should know this by now! So for those of who want nothing more than for Butch and Co. to get shown the door...you better be careful what you wish for! Volnation for the most part has developed into one massive NEGAFAN hotbed...and that's unfortunate. Fans see it, players see it, and recruits see it. If you don't think that it matters...you're delusional! Volnation has become poisonous cancer to this program! For those of you who want to defend this notion..really?? 80% of the threads on here are negative condescending threads and posts about Butch and Co....don't pretend otherwise! Many of you need to grow up..develop a reasonable football IQ...or GET THE HE.. OUT! So many of you (not all of course) are clueless as to the nuts and bolts that make up a quality football program..and you take for granted what we're finally building again.

No.

You're delusional if you think people are going to stop posting their opinions on a message board based off a poorly constructed, sanctimonious, and unoriginal post such as yours.

Sorry, it just isn't happening.
 
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I would like to see him gone unless he can turn over OC duties to a proven winner and not micro manager the OC. Just give him the reigns. It's crystal clear Butch Is just average in that department. The Vandy and SC debacle is living proof he can't call a game.
 
Some are conditioned to accept mediocrity. Participation trophies for 8th place in little league or a ribbon for finishing the 10 yard dog paddle make it easier to accept. Some are more demanding.

GO BIG ORANGE!

And some just live in reality knowing that unless there is a drastic change in the administration level there will never be a 'SABAN' type hire in Knoxville. There is no reason for this other than the powers that be will never pay out what an Alabama or Ohio State or even a Florida are willing to pay for a HC and staff. That is not conditioning. It is just reality. The state is not willing to go there.
 
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I would like to see him gone unless he can turn over OC duties to a proven winner and not micro manager the OC. Just give him the reigns. It's crystal clear Butch Is just average in that department. The Vandy and SC debacle is living proof he can't call a game.

Mike Canales, come on down !!
 
Giving 4 years is not a quick fix...

I do considering we barely had a 4-star on the roster when he took over. It takes at least 3 to get any depth and we lost ours this year.

We are not as deep as we need to be and I also have doubts about his long term viability but let's not forget the dumpster fire this program was when he took it and no one else wanted it.

I'm not happy about the USCjt and Candy losses, we should have won those games, but it beats losing to EVERYONE.
 
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Don't lose to vandy and USC and you won't see so many negative threads.

You're correct on one point, UT is a mess. And that is why we have a guy like Jones.
 
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Saban said after his first beatdown of Barbara Dooley's illegitmate son that "Tennessee's program has been mismanaged for years". He wasn't talking simply about the football team, but the entire athletic Dept. and the entire University. It still is. The players have changed but insanity reigns!
 
Saban said after his first beatdown of Barbara Dooley's illegitmate son that "Tennessee's program has been mismanaged for years". He wasn't talking simply about the football team, but the entire athletic Dept. and the entire University. It still is. The players have changed but insanity reigns!

Correct...It started with the purge of Orange blood years ago. I've heard stories about the Administration swearing to never let the "good ole boys" run the show again. They couldn't stand that Dickey and Fulmer wielded as much power and influence on campus as they did. I believe we are seeing a downward spiral, and not just in football, that is the culmination of that mindset.

DISCLAIMER: For any of those out there looking to disagree with me on this, it is simply my opinion based on conversations I've had, and in no way is intended to sway or influence anyone.
 
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I do considering we barely had a 4-star on the roster when he took over. It takes at least 3 to get any depth and we lost ours this year.

We are not as deep as we need to be and I also have doubts about his long term viability but let's not forget the dumpster fire this program was when he took it and no one else wanted it.

I'm not happy about the USCjt and Candy losses, we should have won those games, but it beats losing to EVERYONE.

Interesting way to rewrite history. We had almost as many 4 stars ,if not as many,as we do now. Dooley sucked as a coach but he recruited just fine. Butch no longer has legacies or promise of playing time to sell and he's having a hard time.
 
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Correct...It started with the purge of Orange blood years ago. I've heard stories about the Administration swearing to never let the "good ole boys" run the show again. They couldn't stand that Dickey and Fulmer wielded as much power and influence on campus as they did. I believe we are seeing a downward spiral, and not just in football, that is the culmination of that mindset.

DISCLAIMER: For any of those out there looking to disagree with me on this, it is simply my opinion based on conversations I've had, and in no way is intended to sway or influence anyone.

Conversations you've had with your imaginary friends like in the past about Gruden? No one takes you seriously guy
 
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that Butch is content to stay here for a long time! Yes I said it! So many of you want/expect him to fall on his face! The fact is this University is an absolute mess from an administrative standpoint...and guess what...it ALL STARTS THERE! So if/when Butch is shown the door don't expect for there to be an endless line of high profile coaches to come knocking! We should know this by now! So for those of who want nothing more than for Butch and Co. to get shown the door...you better be careful what you wish for! Volnation for the most part has developed into one massive NEGAFAN hotbed...and that's unfortunate. Fans see it, players see it, and recruits see it. If you don't think that it matters...you're delusional! Volnation has become a poisonous cancer to this program! For those of you who want to defend this notion..really?? 80% of the threads on here are negative condescending threads and posts about Butch and Co....don't pretend otherwise! Many of you need to grow up..develop a reasonable football IQ...or GET THE HE.. OUT! So many of you (not all of course) are clueless as to the nuts and bolts that make up a quality football program..and you take for granted what we're finally building again.

I've been saying this all along! He's done nothing but better our program every year he's been here, except maybe this year, which was equal to last year. And because there wasn't an increase, everyone is freaking out and asking for his head on a platter, when in fact, he is the best coach we have had in the past prob 10 years! AND HE WANTS TO BE HERE, you can see it by his actions & emotions!!!
 
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that Butch is content to stay here for a long time! Yes I said it! So many of you want/expect him to fall on his face! The fact is this University is an absolute mess from an administrative standpoint...and guess what...it ALL STARTS THERE! So if/when Butch is shown the door don't expect for there to be an endless line of high profile coaches to come knocking! We should know this by now! So for those of who want nothing more than for Butch and Co. to get shown the door...you better be careful what you wish for! Volnation for the most part has developed into one massive NEGAFAN hotbed...and that's unfortunate. Fans see it, players see it, and recruits see it. If you don't think that it matters...you're delusional! Volnation has become a poisonous cancer to this program! For those of you who want to defend this notion..really?? 80% of the threads on here are negative condescending threads and posts about Butch and Co....don't pretend otherwise! Many of you need to grow up..develop a reasonable football IQ...or GET THE HE.. OUT! So many of you (not all of course) are clueless as to the nuts and bolts that make up a quality football program..and you take for granted what we're finally building again.

Post of new year ! GBO!
 
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