Yeah I'm Being A Dumba**

#51
#51
I get everyone’s point but most of you are missing the biggest one. It should have never gotten to the point where one call could cost us the game. We should have been in cruise control in the 4th quarter and up big.
 
#52
#52
But for the first time in my life I won't accept a loss. We didn't loose this game. The officials robbed our team flat out. To hell with what the record books say. We won this game. We had a 8-5 season and no one will convince me otherwise. I know how crazy I sound but I don't care. If they are that shi**y at their job then why should I respect their judgement and decision. . Those kids fought their a**es off only to have a couple stupid or corrupt pinheads say "no reality is what I pull out my a**.

Yup I'm an idiot for my Vols but I don't care. My passion for the Power T made what happened on that field personal for me. I'll never accept that score because those refs blatantly took that last touchdown away.

Okay stupid rant over and flame away lol. I do not care, For the first tie in my life I don't care what the scoreboard says. Tennessee won last night. End of story.

There were some blatant bad calls but we blew some opportunities on our own.

Put it this way, protesting the officiating after the game is like protesting voting irregularities after the election. You might have a good argument but the deed is done and they ain't changing the outcome.
 
#53
#53
You answered your own post. Reviewable plays are dead ball and lose ball. Not forward progress. I’m not debating that forward progress was stopped or the whistle didn’t happen until after the ball crossed the goal line.
The rule book explicitly says forward progress IS reviewable in goal line situations.

This is the rule itself.

Dead Ball and Loose Ball ARTICLE 3. Reviewable plays involving potential dead balls and loose balls include:

e. Ball carrier’s forward progress, spot of fumble, or spot of out-of-bounds backward pass, with respect to a first down or the goal line.
 
#54
#54
Forward progress is not reviewable. But spotting of the ball is.

So in this situation how would replay properly handle the review? How could they know when the play ended other than when the play was blown dead by the official. No down by contact to verify and no out of bounds spot to verify. What was the forward most point of the ball at the whistle? That is what needed to be reviewed. They cannot verify or validate an official's thought processes. What is the meat on the bones?
 
#55
#55
I watched the A to Z sports podcast last night on Youtube and they brought up a good point. The play was ruled dead because his forward progress had been stopped according to the official. That is not reviewable and it does not matter when the whistle blows if the ref says forward progress was stopped. So there could be no video review because forward progress is NOT reviewable. The way it played out was Correct, the problem is the CALL by the referee was INCORRECT, his forward progress was only stopped for .07 seconds before his final lung sticking his arm out and scoring. If this play happens in the middle of the field they let it go until the player is on the ground. The referee should never have stopped the play on the goal line in that situation.
Seems like I’ve seen them review the spot and forward progress when a first down is in question. Not sure how this play would be any different.
 
#56
#56
We had chances to win. When you run as many plays as Hoops’ offense some aren’t gonna work out. Penalties and 3-6 on 4th down conversions cost Vols that game in regulation.

Our defense left something to be desired, and the offense was inconsistent, but the team still played hard and well enough to be tied at the end of regulation and send it onto overtime. This team did NOT deserve to be cheated out of a victory by the refs taking back the legitimate TD. Also, although some of the pass interference calls appeared correct, one of the pass interference calls (I think the last one) was clearly a bad call as the DB looked back, saw the ball and batted it away before it got to the receiver, a clean breakup. An interference call before that one was also questionable. While I think they should have tried to run to get closer for a FG at the end of regulation, that last pass play was only an overthrow because their DB was pulling on Tillman's jersey preventing him from getting to the ball, a clear infraction that was not called by these clearly corrupt ACC refs. VOLS had 128 yards in penalties called, Purdue 61. The only other game that UT had more than 100 yards in penalties was against Pitt, and I think this was an ACC crew, although I am not sure. Really unfortunate that refs that perform this way do not face any consequence for their biased rulings.
 
#57
#57
But for the first time in my life I won't accept a loss. We didn't loose this game. The officials robbed our team flat out. To hell with what the record books say. We won this game. We had a 8-5 season and no one will convince me otherwise. I know how crazy I sound but I don't care. If they are that shi**y at their job then why should I respect their judgement and decision. . Those kids fought their a**es off only to have a couple stupid or corrupt pinheads say "no reality is what I pull out my a**.

Yup I'm an idiot for my Vols but I don't care. My passion for the Power T made what happened on that field personal for me. I'll never accept that score because those refs blatantly took that last touchdown away.

Okay stupid rant over and flame away lol. I do not care, For the first tie in my life I don't care what the scoreboard says. Tennessee won last night. End of story.

Until we understand that they aren't bad at their jobs nothing will change. They are corrupt. Every average college football fan knows it's a reviewable call. The refs know as well. They reviewed one of our calls earlier on for a fair spot. They just didn't when it counted...because Vegas made a ton of money on this game. The line went way Tennessee's way and Vegas pays to win. It is much more plausible that they were bought off than to assume they don't know it's a reviewable call. They know the rules...just didn't uphold them. And it happens in games like this that don't garner as much national attention like Bama/CinCin or Georgia/Michigan. It happens in that low to mid tier game/bowl where people forget about it if they aren't the fans who got hosed.
 
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#58
#58
Watching Baylor defense .. actually watching DB's who play the ball.. see the ball .. attack the ball .. and no PI calls . Reason is the DB has right to the ball.. our DB's never play the ball do when there is contact its called.. but when DB plays ball like Baylor db's. Contact when playing the ball is overlooked ...
 
#59
#59
Problem is you're making it sound like Purdue had kicked a FG and the TD would have won the game.
 
#60
#60
I watched the A to Z sports podcast last night on Youtube and they brought up a good point. The play was ruled dead because his forward progress had been stopped according to the official. That is not reviewable and it does not matter when the whistle blows if the ref says forward progress was stopped. So there could be no video review because forward progress is NOT reviewable. The way it played out was Correct, the problem is the CALL by the referee was INCORRECT, his forward progress was only stopped for .07 seconds before his final lung sticking his arm out and scoring. If this play happens in the middle of the field they let it go until the player is on the ground. The referee should never have stopped the play on the goal line in that situation.

I’m not sure I agree with that assessment. How does a referee stop play? By blowing the whistle. What is the referee’s responsibility when he believes forward progress has been halted? He blows the bleeding whistle and stops play. How do all the players on the field know that the play has been ruled dead? The ref blows the whistle.

I’ve been playing and watching football for more than 50 years. Play stops when the referee blows the whistle. It happens every day across America, from peewee football to the pros. If you don’t hear a whistle, you keep playing. Play only stops when you hear the whistle.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the line judge who made that call cannot stop play by simply running in and waving his arms and shouting. Or can he?Maybe he did blow the whistle and we just didn’t hear it. If so, then so be it. He just made a bad call. But I’ve seen several replays of that play where you can clearly hear a whistle blowing after the ball broke the plane of the goal line. After.
 
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