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TOP said:
In saying that... you realize that Justin Beiber and Miley Cyrus are two of the most famous people in the world, right?

There are a lot of simpletons in the world. Unless you're ready to back the popularity of that garbage, your point is moot.

Trash is trash and popularity doesn't make it less trash. It just means a lot of people are stupid and like trash. Look at Kim Kardashian's app. Made like 100 million... does that make it good?
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Are you seriously trying to claim that this is pop music's most successful period?
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Sorry to those I've offended.

I'm a lifelong fan at heart.

Just gave my take on what I saw when I watched it again. I'm wrong and I'm a troll. Sorry.

I'm being sincere. Minus the trolling. I didn't do this to troll. Not sure why it's being portrayed that way. Sorry.
 
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TOP said:
Sorry to those I've offended.

I'm a lifelong fan at heart.

Just gave my take on what I saw when I watched it again. I'm wrong and I'm a troll. Sorry.

I'm being sincere. Minus the trolling. I didn't do this to troll. Not sure why it's being portrayed that way. Sorry.
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Because you are pretending like your opinion is the only possible right answer despite the fact that the opposite of your opinion brought never seen before or again fame and success for the company.
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For example, no poll would ever consider anything Foley or Undertaker did remotely as memorable as driving a beer truck down the entrance ramp, his feud with Vince, the whole Austin 3:16 thing or the fact that it was Austin chosen as the face of the brand after the buyouts.
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TOP said:
Sorry to those I've offended.

I'm a lifelong fan at heart.

Just gave my take on what I saw when I watched it again. I'm wrong and I'm a troll. Sorry.

I'm being sincere. Minus the trolling. I didn't do this to troll. Not sure why it's being portrayed that way. Sorry.
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I disagree with you're opinion but I don't think anythings wrong with it. If you didn't like Stone Cold then you just don't like him. You are probably in the minority on that though.
 
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creekerballer said:
I disagree with you're opinion but I don't think anythings wrong with it. If you didn't like Stone Cold then you just don't like him. You are probably in the minority on that though.
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There's a difference in not liking someone and saying they suck and comparing them to Kim Kardashian. I don't like Punk, or Bryan really. I don't think i ever said they sucked. If i did, i was trolling lol.
 
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Ironically, the DX invasion of Nitro should probably be the biggest moment of the Attitude era, but I can't fathom that a public opinion poll would even get it into the top three moments.
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volfanbill said:
Ironically, the DX invasion of Nitro should probably be the biggest moment of the Attitude era, but I can't fathom that a public opinion poll would even get it into the top three moments.
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And you'd be right, the WWE only rated it #7 in the top moments of the attitude era.
 
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volfanbill said:
For example, no poll would ever consider anything Foley or Undertaker did remotely as memorable as driving a beer truck down the entrance ramp, his feud with Vince, the whole Austin 3:16 thing or the fact that it was Austin chosen as the face of the brand after the buyouts.
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Taker throwing Foley off of and through the cell is pretty dang memorable.

Austin is definately one of the most popular of all time though.
 
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volfanbill said:
I agree, but which moments di you recall easier?
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For me personally I remember that HIAC match more. But I did not watch wrestling during the Attitude Era so all of my memories about Austin are from after the fact.
 
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Austin's star burned brighter and hotter than any other in the history of the business, including Hogan's. There has never been and probably never will be a more popular attraction in wrestling. Anyone who disputes that either didn't live through those eras or had their eyes closed to the obvious.
 
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Scotty said:
Austin's star burned brighter and hotter than any other in the history of the business, including Hogan's.
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Wouldn't go that far. Hogan was a juggernaut that along with Vince McMahon took wrestling from small arenas and auditoriums to sold out stadiums. It's hard to explain to people with no recollection of the "kayfabe" era, but it was completely preposterous for a professional wrestler to become the kind of mainstream, pop culture icon that Hogan did in the 80s. It was like in the blink of an eye everything went from regional programming on local TV to sold out Wrestlemania with celebrities, Hogan appearing on the Tonight Show and SNL and in Rocky III. He was the perfect character at the perfect time for Vince.
 
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GAVol said:
Wouldn't go that far. Hogan was a juggernaut that along with Vince McMahon took wrestling from small arenas and auditoriums to sold out stadiums.
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Simply untrue. The NWA and AWA were drawing huge houses long before the rock n wrestling era. Vince and Hogan did indeed take wrestling to a new place, but to suggest the business was just scraping by is inaccurate. Hogan was not wrestling's first mega star. He was the one who benefitted from the burgeoning MTV generation, though (and Vince's drive to go national).

Hogan was a transcendent attraction, but even Vince would say Austin was the bigger star in his relatively short time on top.

Oh, and to the guy who suggested Hunter was a bigger star than Austin: It should be noted Triple H has never been The Guy at any point. He's been great in the role of the guy who The Guy fought at the top of the card, though. And that's no knock. But let's not confuse his ballooned ego for top-stardom.
 
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Scotty said:
Simply untrue. The NWA and AWA were drawing huge houses long before the rock n wrestling era. Vince and Hogan did indeed take wrestling to a new place, but to suggest the business was just scraping by is inaccurate. Hogan was not wrestling's first mega star. He was the one who benefitted from the burgeoning MTV generation, though (and Vince's drive to go national).

Hogan was a transcendent attraction, but even Vince would say Austin was the bigger star in his relatively short time on top.

Oh, and to the guy who suggested Hunter was a bigger star than Austin: It should be noted Triple H has never been The Guy at any point. He's been great in the role of the guy who The Guy fought at the top of the card, though. And that's no knock. But let's not confuse his ballooned ego for top-stardom.
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Not to fight for GA, but where did he say they were just scraping by?
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Stone Cold Steve Austin is the face of the Attitude Era but I think I give the nod to The Rock. He made it to heights that no one else did at the time. He blew up on a worldwide level, appeared on all the talk shows, starred in blockbuster hits and is currently regarded as one of the better action stars and top-grossing actors today.

But hey, this is a message board and everyone has an opinion. This is just mine.
 
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Sith Vol said:
Stone Cold Steve Austin is the face of the Attitude Era but I think I give the nod to The Rock. He made it to heights that no one else did at the time. He blew up on a worldwide level, appeared on all the talk shows, starred in blockbuster hits and is currently regarded as one of the better action stars and top-grossing actors today.

But hey, this is a message board and everyone has an opinion. This is just mine.
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Except he was never booked to beat Austin at Mania. :)

Talk about an embarrassment of riches for WWE at the time. Quite possibly two of the three biggest stars the biz ever experienced in their primes with the same company at the same time.
 
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Scotty said:
Except he was never booked to beat Austin at Mania. :)

Talk about an embarrassment of riches for WWE at the time. Quite possibly two of the three biggest stars the biz ever experienced in their primes with the same company at the same time.
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Vince owes Rock and Austin for him becoming a multi-billionaire.
 
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Taker and Foley's HIAC match was as memorable as any thing I've ever seen in wrestling. The testicular fortitude demonstrated by Foley was amazing.

I agree with GA about Hogan. As big as Stone Cold was, Hogan took wrestling to a whole new level. Sure the NWA had regional success, but Hogan took wrestling global. Stone Cold brought back the excitement, but Hogan was the first to capture it. I prefer Austin's character myself, but to deny what Hogan did, or to quantify it as less than what Austin did, is just foolish. I mean, damn, Hogan had a Saturday morning cartoon. And kids watched it. Maybe it's one of those things where you had to have lived through both times to understand it.

I do miss the days of Stone Cold and Vince trying to one up each other though. Made for great TV.
 
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All of them owes something to somebody else. Hogan owes Vince and Andre, Austin owes Vince and vice versa, The Rock owes Austin and his Hollywood writers for his promos.

Moving on...

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HHH has made several accusations about the fans being cheap. Wrestling has come a long way in my 33 years, but it's core demographic had never changed. Surely Trips knows this right?
 
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