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In the just finished NBA finals (OKC versus Indiana), there were several games that had long stretches of very ugly basketball where both teams could not buy a bucket and seemed to be in a TO competition. Easy to splice together a compilation of that hot mess and then proclaim women ball players are more skilled.

As in all other things, context matters.
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Angel Reese continues to put up impressive numbers. 15 rebounds and an efficient 22 pts.

Only 2 of those 15 were offensive rebounds, so she wasn't just getting multiple boards off her own (sometimes crazy) misses. She was putting in some work. While I don't consider Reese to be among the very top players in the W, she is definitely one of the most tenacious players in the league. She is scrappy and relentless, and I have a great appreciation for that.
 
Only 2 of those 15 were offensive rebounds, so she wasn't just getting multiple boards off her own (sometimes crazy) misses. She was putting in some work. While I don't consider Reese to be among the very top players in the W, she is definitely one of the most tenacious players in the league. She is scrappy and relentless, and I have a great appreciation for that.
She's the W's Rodman.
 
She's the W's Rodman.

Don’t put that on Dennis. He was on some excellent teams and understood his role within the team to make them successful.

That girl has center if the university syndrome and she sucks. Causes her team to lose game after game with her selfish play.
 
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+/- stats aren’t meaningful for players with few minutes, but the aggregate is troubling.
49 minutes for all three players, or ~25% of available playing time; 6/16 FG 38%, 18 pts, or 22% of team total, 1 assist, of total team 24 assists. Rickea is a starter for a reason. Mercedes and Rae are bench players.
 
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+/- stats aren’t meaningful for players with few minutes, but the aggregate is troubling.
49 minutes for all three players, or ~25% of available playing time; 6/16 FG 38%, 18 pts, or 22% of team total, 1 assist, of total team 24 assists. Rickea is a starter for a reason. Mercedes and Rae are bench players.
The Sparks are a bad and poorly coached team. Only starter has a (marginal) net +. This game is one of Rickea's better stat lines for this season.
 
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This is a historic stat line, she still has a lot of work to do, but her potential is one of the highest I’ve ever seen.



Yes. It’s just silly to dismiss what AR is doing, esp with her still limited skill set. Never going to be pretty or conventional, and not yet leading to wins for her team, but what she’s accomplished with motor and heart alone is incredible.

AR also seems to have matured a ton both on and off the court.
I never expected that Angel would leave Rickea in the dust as a WNBA player. Credit to her.
Think it may be a bit soon for that assessment.

As everyone always feared (and Roberts and Peebly blatantly lied about) Rickea will not be successful in a system that forbids the midrange game. Don’t think she’s shot a midi in the last 4 or 5 games. That makes her get to the rim game much more difficult; she needs the threat of the stop and pop or stop and fade on drives. She’s not and probably never will be a consistent spot up 3 pt shooter, though she can have games where she can’t miss

On a positive note, have y’all seen how much her defense has improved?
 
She HAS to stop doing this. This is why she’s hurt all the time and why she’s comically ridiculous and embarrassing. Please stop launching yourself then failing to get back on defense while you dramatically whine to the refs.


She is having a rough 2nd season. She just set a record for the worst 3 point shooting stretch ( over 5 games) in WNBA history
 
She HAS to stop doing this. This is why she’s hurt all the time and why she’s comically ridiculous and embarrassing. Please stop launching yourself then failing to get back on defense while you dramatically whine to the refs.


In fairness, on the 2nd one, she just lost her balance (back to far on her heels) and then was trying to get a TO to avoid a tie-up.

She has had a bad injury stretch this season but a quad strain and a groin strain are not typically the kind of injuries you get from diving. These are overuse injuries.

My theory is that CC really took some significant down time during the off season (and understandably so) but she has had to ramp up too quickly for the start of the season. All the pre-season hype about how she gained 10 pounds of muscle in the off season is clearly fictional.

She might be able to play herself into full shape in the back half of the season but right now its Napheesa's, Angel's and Paige's world.
 
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this article is on the reactions of baseball players to the selection of a rookie pitcher selected by MLB leadership for the all-star game. I find the analogy 100% similar to how the WNBA is now focused. (your thoughts?)

"Major League Baseball is really just focusing on the most marketable players," Castellanos told The Athletic. "So the fact that they can have somebody in the game that is going to basically blow out one inning and throw 103, 104, they're going to get more eyeballs on baseball. They're going to think it's getting more popular."

Turner was asked by The Athletic whether popular additions like Misiorowski potentially cheapen the All-Star selection process.

"Yeah, 100 percent," he said. "I mean, it's not the All-Star Game in the sense that the best players go there, or people who have had the best season.

"It's whoever sells the most tickets or has been put on social media the most. That's essentially what it's turned into."
 
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this article is on the reactions of baseball players to the selection of a rookie pitcher selected by MLB leadership for the all-star game. I find the analogy 100% similar to how the WNBA is now focused. (your thoughts?)

"Major League Baseball is really just focusing on the most marketable players," Castellanos told The Athletic. "So the fact that they can have somebody in the game that is going to basically blow out one inning and throw 103, 104, they're going to get more eyeballs on baseball. They're going to think it's getting more popular."

Turner was asked by The Athletic whether popular additions like Misiorowski potentially cheapen the All-Star selection process.

"Yeah, 100 percent," he said. "I mean, it's not the All-Star Game in the sense that the best players go there, or people who have had the best season.

"It's whoever sells the most tickets or has been put on social media the most. That's essentially what it's turned into."
Exactly. It’s not related to in season performance any more.

That’s why a very meh Caitlin Clark is not only on the squad, but a starter and the captain ffs, and Azura Stevens is not. Z’s stats are 100x better.
 
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Sparks win one! Had to sweat it out, the Sun shot unconscious the first half.

Speaking of first half’s, Rickea had one. Got to the rim on Sanya Rivers at will, had 17 pts. Sun switched size and physicality on her in the second half and shut down her scoring but that completely opened up Azura who had a huge second half

Rickea ended with a very nice stat line and man has her defense and assists picked up. This was one of her most complete games.

Rae had a nice run today w 17 mins. Took advantage w 7 pts a couple of rebs and an assist. She was really the only contributor off the bench. Rumor is Cam will be back after All Star.

Sparks have one more game before the break, home against the Mystics. They really, really need to win that to show any signs of life.

Mercedes Russell has been waived. Her contract was too big to keep.
 

Sparks win one! Had to sweat it out, the Sun shot unconscious the first half.

Speaking of first half’s, Rickea had one. Got to the rim on Sanya Rivers at will, had 17 pts. Sun switched size and physicality on her in the second half and shut down her scoring but that completely opened up Azura who had a huge second half

Rickea ended with a very nice stat line and man has her defense and assists picked up. This was one of her most complete games.

Rae had a nice run today w 17 mins. Took advantage w 7 pts a couple of rebs and an assist. She was really the only contributor off the bench. Rumor is Cam will be back after All Star.

Sparks have one more game before the break, home against the Mystics. They really, really need to win that to show any signs of life.

Mercedes Russell has been waived. Her contract was too big to keep.

That’s our Rickea!
 
Caitlin Clark was in tears after reinjuring her groin late in the Fever win. She has missed 9 games so far and has never missed a single game in college or her pro career before this season. The 2025 All-Star Captain and 3-Point contestant also missed 6-of-7 threes as her shooting slump continued.

Last 7 Games
14 PTS, 7 AST (1/7 3PT)
14 PTS, 13 AST (2/7 3PT)
12 PTS, 9 AST (1/7 3PT)
10 PTS, 6 AST (2/5 3PT)
6 PTS, 9 AST (0/6 3PT)
19 PTS, 10 AST (1/10 3PT)
11 PTS, 9 AST (0/7 3PT)
 
Caitlin Clark was in tears after reinjuring her groin late in the Fever win. She has missed 9 games so far and has never missed a single game in college or her pro career before this season. The 2025 All-Star Captain and 3-Point contestant also missed 6-of-7 threes as her shooting slump continued.

Last 7 Games
14 PTS, 7 AST (1/7 3PT)
14 PTS, 13 AST (2/7 3PT)
12 PTS, 9 AST (1/7 3PT)
10 PTS, 6 AST (2/5 3PT)
6 PTS, 9 AST (0/6 3PT)
19 PTS, 10 AST (1/10 3PT)
11 PTS, 9 AST (0/7 3PT)
She's something like 1-31 on 3 pt attempts on the road for the season, and only a little bit better than that at home. She's in a woeful 3 pt slump. She is continuing to roll up assists though.

Its getting to her mentally, she's continuing to launch herself around the court in frankly comical ways then flail and whine dramatically for calls. Last night she went on a prolonged tirade on a ref that would have gotten anyone else ejected. The team's sports psychologist has been spotted standing beside CC in team huddles.

CC needs to be nowhere near AA weekend. She never belonged there this year. She needs time away to heal physically and mentally.



Soph Slump can be brutal.
 

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