If she goes to another school ( which I severely doubt),she will be a miserable failure ….the shadow of Pat has nothing whatsoever to do with her lack of coaching acumen ...I have said that since 2015 when it became apparent to me that the " peter principle " had overtaken her ,ie,she was promoted beyond her capacity to lead/coach/manage. She would be an average head coach at Christenberry Junior High School.She is too old and has demonstrated that she can not be a head coach at the Major College level so no one would hire her even if she offered her services free of charge.Holly is of retirement age and eligible to receive the State of Tennessee retirement …..that should be her avenue of escape ….she should step down gracefully after her next loss.A little over the top comment, but I think everyone can see what side of crazy you are coming from. She is being treated exactly the way any HC would in this circumstance, its time for a change for a lot of reasons and #1 is the W vs. L, she lost the locker room, she will most likely go to another school and do really well without the shadow of Pat.
Actually some really inside people have told me that Coach Fulmer will ask her to step aside as early as next week and to expect that a new head coach will be announced shortly thereafter.You people are delusional. She just received a contract extension, has a super class coming in, and made it to the tournament. She will be back.
You people are delusional. She just received a contract extension, has a super class coming in, and made it to the tournament. She will be back.
Actually some really inside people have told me that Coach Fulmer will ask her to step aside as early as next week and to expect that a new head coach will be announced shortly thereafter.
The comment that CHW was the most logical choice is so bogus. She sat beside the Queen of Lady's BB for 30 plus years but no other school came begging to hire Holly- why?? We now have seen the answer as the past 7 years as the program declined into mediocracy. Pats coaching tree was extensive with 78 people mentored by her went on to other programs as head coaches, assistant coaches, or administrators. Holly sat on the bench as others were hired and moved on to success. She appararently was not attractive to other programs and I think it went way beyond loyalty. She thought she had the plumb and wouldn't have to much to keep it rolling on. She was over her head from day one!I said from day one that she could not coach, because she tried to be friends with the girls. Even when she took over while Pat was sick, it was clear she was not the person that we needed. She had Pat's players for a couple of years that had been developed. Those girls left and she did recruit girls that were just as highly ranked, but she has NEVER had a player get better, they only get worse. Those that transferred, you can see how they excelled, so that should answer your question. We were never looking for another Legend, just a coach and with her we hot NEITHER
The comment that CHW was the most logical choice is so bogus. She sat beside the Queen of Lady's BB for 30 plus years but no other school came begging to hire Holly- why?? We now have seen the answer as the past 7 years as the program declined into mediocracy. Pats coaching tree was extensive with 78 people mentored by her went on to other programs as head coaches, assistant coaches, or administrators. Holly sat on the bench as others were hired and moved on to success. She appararently was not attractive to other programs and I think it went way beyond loyalty. She thought she had the plumb and wouldn't have to much to keep it rolling on. She was over her head from day one!
I said from day one that she could not coach, because she tried to be friends with the girls. Even when she took over while Pat was sick, it was clear she was not the person that we needed. She had Pat's players for a couple of years that had been developed. Those girls left and she did recruit girls that were just as highly ranked, but she has NEVER had a player get better, they only get worse. Those that transferred, you can see how they excelled, so that should answer your question. We were never looking for another Legend, just a coach and with her we hot NEITHER
well, whatever happens with Holly I don't want this game to be the last the Lady Vols play this season...so,
GO LADY VOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That announcement …" shortly thereafter" will be after the NCAA tourney is over.
The comment that CHW was the most logical choice is so bogus. She sat beside the Queen of Lady's BB for 30 plus years but no other school came begging to hire Holly- why?? We now have seen the answer as the past 7 years as the program declined into mediocracy. Pats coaching tree was extensive with 78 people mentored by her went on to other programs as head coaches, assistant coaches, or administrators. Holly sat on the bench as others were hired and moved on to success. She appararently was not attractive to other programs and I think it went way beyond loyalty. She thought she had the plumb and wouldn't have to much to keep it rolling on. She was over her head from day one!
Yes. Yes. And this is the year to stop the decline. There’s no reason to allow her to continue. I, for one, will NOT buy season tickets again until she’s replaced.I'm not measuring Holly against Pat never have she could never meet that standard and not many coaches can. With Holly the problem is you wonder how she can have a bench full of McDonalds All Americans and get beat by 21 points and 6 in a row by Alabama that very seldom sniffs a McDonalds All American in women's basketball. Then there is Vandy winning in Knoxville. Then there is Arkansas, Kentucky losses at home. Not a fluke she loses these games every season to one team or another. We should replace her because her teams look lousy on the court. They commit as much as 25 turnovers in games and can't defend the dribble drive or the open three. They look like their tank is empty and have no energy to play the game. I don't believe UConn, Tennessee or any other team will ever have the dominance that they had in the past. We should be able to compete for the title and the final four every season. We should be able to make it to the final four at least every three seasons. The realization of most rational fans is were not going to get anywhere near the final four with Holly hasn't happened in 7 years and actually were headed in the other direction with each and every season.
Read that post again. Superfly did not literally say it wasn't Holly's fault."
I think it is debatable that Hollly's record (over the last four years) would be acceptable at most schools. If the set is the SEC, the trend line would have sounded alarms for even the bottom of the pack (which the LVs being all too close to that position).
I disagree. Nikki Caldwell was the obvious and correct choice. Former LV who was a HC with success on the floor and in recruiting.Holly was the most logical choice to replace Pat. I don't think there was anyone...including people on this site...that did not think it was a great idea. It didn't work out the way everyone thought.....but she is still being measured by Pat's success. I am not sure it's fair to do that but that is a choice she made. You can't be the legend you replace (18 Final Fours and 8 national titles...geez) .....and you can't be better than Pat. Holly was doomed from day one.
Holly was the most logical choice to replace Pat. I don't think there was anyone...including people on this site...that did not think it was a great idea. It didn't work out the way everyone thought.....but she is still being measured by Pat's success. I am not sure it's fair to do that but that is a choice she made. You can't be the legend you replace (18 Final Fours and 8 national titles...geez) .....and you can't be better than Pat. Holly was doomed from day one.
Players and coaches aren't and shouldn't be "friends." Just like parents.If they need a friend a coach is a good friend
my friends think I am a good friend
One got better.
She hit the ground for a while in December and January,,,
but I think the Meme of the early season is going to show up and lead in this tourney
This team seems to play the best when she is at her best.
My sentinments exactly...
same as
wanting the Golden State lose, but to see Seth score 40
Good cover
Her family is here
of course "here" was/is perfect
and why move on,,,when she had a chance to work lifetime to lifetime with Pat Summitt
Who wouldn't?
She was never groomed to be a HC because Pat, like all coaches, needed a consistency in every facet
Holly was her consistency in the coaching mix
Holly did her job well
Only when she began to HC did the guardplay begin to suffer
You have put good people around you rely on them fully.
I mean,
that is what your are trying to teach the players, right?