Will McBride Commits

[Doberman]

He got noticed.

Evaluators noticed he was 6' tall and the big boys passed.

Doesn't pass the eye test. Fair or unfair, that's how it's done.

 

[perico]

Great pick up by Butch.

Likely he'll be 4th string next season, but the real reason we needed a solid QB in this class is if JG wins the QB competition, it likely means that either Dormady and / or S-Jones will transfer and we may find ourselves stuck with a thin depth chart at QB in 2018. McBride has a lot of potential and could turn out to be a pretty good QB; he fits our system well. His highlight reel is pretty impressive. At worst, he's a very good backup; on the upside, he has the potential to be a starting SEC QB in the same vein as Dobbs.

As for the star-gazers, sorry but there was no chance we were getting a top 10 type QB this class. There's just too much QB talent on the roster already with JG, Dormady, and S-Jones.

P.S. Don't forget that Josh Dobbs' recruiting profile was pretty similar to McBride's: 3-star, very athletic, not heavily recruited by other elite programs, etc.

Dobbs was a 4 star on half the services and was considered a baseball prospect. Was generally considered a top 10 DT (rivals had him as a pro style and had a lower rating for him) across the board.

 

[Berry4Heisman14]

I pay attention to offers before stars. SMU being his only in state offer says a lot. I hope he is the next manziel but SMU being the only in state offer has to be concerning sunshine pumper or not

 

[butchna]

A list to work on? I understand the methodolgy of wanting to take a QB every year, but when this is all you have a available, why waste the scholarship? Why not go after a higher position of need? Like a CB since we just got spurned by the guy we pulled a recruits offer for.

We have a possible situation where JG is backed up by Zac Jancek. Real life coaches don't wait for it to happen. A QB in every class is always a good idea. The prospects before we landed McBride were much more dire.

 

[BAJAvol]

Dobbs was a 4 star on half the services and was considered a baseball prospect. Was generally considered a top 10 DT (rivals had him as a pro style and had a lower rating for him) across the board.

I swear this is how I pictured the fan base still in full support of what Dooley was doing and now, slowly but surely, starting to get the same visual.

 

[butchna]

I pay attention to offers before stars. SMU being his only in state offer says a lot. I hope he is the next manziel but SMU being the only in state offer has to be concerning sunshine pumper or not

Go down the list KEEPIN IT REAL guy...we had CJ Lewis, there are less promising prospects out there.

 

[Berry4Heisman14]

Go down the list KEEPIN IT REAL guy...we had CJ Lewis, there are less promising prospects out there.

I will say he's a upgrade over Lewis. I was baffled by that take at the time

 

[butchna]

Dobbs was a 4 star on half the services and was considered a baseball prospect. Was generally considered a top 10 DT (rivals had him as a pro style and had a lower rating for him) across the board.

Dobbs was never considered a baseball prospect. He PLAYED baseball! Maybe that's where you got confused?

 

[dcm3w]

A list to work on? I understand the methodolgy of wanting to take a QB every year, but when this is all you have a available, why waste the scholarship? Why not go after a higher position of need? Like a CB since we just got spurned by the guy we pulled a recruits offer for.

When there is a possibility of two QBs leaving the program next year then a scholarship quarterback might be the way to go. I think Butch likes his upside and wants to snag a safety valve.

 

[BAJAvol]

When there is a possibility of two QBs leaving the program next year then a scholarship quarterback might be the way to go. I think Butch likes his upside and wants to snag a safety valve.

Pretty sure if one transfers, it would be pretty easy to convince the other to stay on as a back up. If both transfer out, there is bigger internal issues than we realize.

 

[BAJAvol]

I will say he's a upgrade over Lewis. I was baffled by that take at the time

I shook my head at the Lewis offer as well. Hard to believe we went from Hunter Johnson to CJ Lewis.

 

[butchna]

Get your facts out of here!

I swear this is how I pictured the fan base still in full support of what Dooley was doing and now, slowly but surely, starting to get the same visual.

Original cartoon I've only viewed a thousand times. :good!: If you can't see the improvement in QB recruiting since Dooley, you're being intentionally obtuse. Dooley signed...Worley! Who else? Bray was already here. Butch's "failures" include Dobbs,Dormady,Jones and Guarantano. With that background, there's more weight to the benefit over the doubt IMO. But, by all means, continue SELF broiling. :salute:

 

[butchna]

Pretty sure if one transfers, it would be pretty easy to convince the other to stay on as a back up. If both transfer out, there is bigger internal issues than we realize.

I'm glad you're confident that it's "pretty easy" for QBs to give up on their dream to play QB. Your job's not on the line and if this happens, you can chalk it up to his "failure"...win/win.

 

[BAJAvol]

Original cartoon I've only viewed a thousand times. :good!: If you can't see the improvement in QB recruiting since Dooley, you're being intentionally obtuse. Dooley signed...Worley! Who else? Bray was already here. Butch's "failures" include Dobbs,Dormady,Jones and Guarantano. With that background, there's more weight to the benefit over the doubt IMO. But, by all means, continue SELF broiling. :salute:

I don't really care how many times you've seen the cartoon. I can't help its an accurate description of half our fan base and athletic department.

Please point out where I stated that prior QB recruitment was not an improvement. Have I ever said the first thing about Dobbs, Guarantano, or Dormandy? Your trying to insist that I am giving off the impression Dooley recruited better QB's than Butch?

 

[BAJAvol]

I'm glad you're confident that it's "pretty easy" for QBs to give up on their dream to play QB. Your job's not on the line and if this happens, you can chalk it up to his "failure"...win/win.

Who the hell feels the need to be 4 deep every year at QB when you literally have limited depth at corner? That's one example. Seriously how common is it for 2 QB's transfer out the same year when one has the opportunity of being #2? Alabama is an exception. Both Bateman and the other were highly recruited/highly regarded athletes that certainly feel like they can play. And apparently half the country felt like they could play as well out of high school.

Do you think I want to see my team fail? Of course not. It's just not difficult to see that the current staff will likely never win anything of significance here. If you think otherwise, well, you have that right. But for me, I have not seen the proof to believe otherwise.

 

[butchna]

I don't really care how many times you've seen the cartoon. I can't help its an accurate description of half our fan base and athletic department.

Please point out where I stated that prior QB recruitment was not an improvement. Have I ever said the first thing about Dobbs, Guarantano, or Dormandy? Your trying to insist that I am giving off the impression Dooley recruited better QB's than Butch?

Sitting in a fire waiting to die is pretty bad. Putting it in a QB recruit's thread and equating it to Dooley isn't exactly flattering towards current QB recruiting. Or are you into some weird stuff?

And you guys with your "we'd be a better fanbase if everyone was just like me" need to get over yourselves. :lol: You're not affecting anything! You have no power! If changes need to be made, we'll all be right at the SAME TIME! :hi:

 

[BAJAvol]

Sitting in a fire waiting to die is pretty bad. Putting it in a QB recruit's thread and equating it to Dooley isn't exactly flattering towards current QB recruiting. Or are you into some weird stuff?

You obviously don't understand the meaning.

 

[butchna]

You obviously don't understand the meaning.

I know what you WANT it to mean. And you're wrong. We all want success...some don't burn the house down THEMSELVES.

 

[BAJAvol]

I know what you WANT it to mean. And you're wrong. We all want success...some don't burn the house down THEMSELVES.

:good!:

People will be ignorant to what's going on in all aspects of life. No matter the situation. Something else I want to make clear as well....I DO NOT think he should've been let go this year. Unstable athletic department and no decent options. But I do think eventually he will. Just because I have a different opinion than you doesn't mean I think i'm 100% and you're 100% wrong, either.

 

[butchna]

Who the hell feels the need to be 4 deep every year at QB when you literally have limited depth at corner? That's one example. Seriously how common is it for 2 QB's transfer out the same year when one has the opportunity of being #2? Alabama is an exception. Both Bateman and the other were highly recruited/highly regarded athletes that certainly feel like they can play. And apparently half the country felt like they could play as well out of high school.

Do you think I want to see my team fail? Of course not. It's just not difficult to see that the current staff will likely never win anything of significance here. If you think otherwise, well, you have that right. But for me, I have not seen the proof to believe otherwise.

QB is the most important SINGLE position on the field. You can scheme around corner's strengths. If your QB flat sucks...your TEAM sucks. We have 4 true CB commits in this class and looking for a 5th...I don't see the dereliction of duty.

As far as your Bama backup QB question? I think the fact these highly rated QBs stayed 2-3 seasons the EXCEPTION...not the opposite! Most programs can't swing that. Barnett shocked them because they weren't used to it...the others transferred well after the time there was hope of winning the starting job...that's not the norm.

 

[BAJAvol]

QB is the most important SINGLE position on the field. You can scheme around corner's strengths. If your QB flat sucks...your TEAM sucks. We have 4 true CB commits in this class and looking for a 5th...I don't see the dereliction of duty.

As far as your Bama backup QB question? I think the fact these highly rated QBs stayed 2-3 seasons the EXCEPTION...not the opposite! Most programs can't swing that. Barnett shocked them because they weren't used to it...the others transferred well after the time there was hope of winning the starting job...that's not the norm.

Again, this is the #4 guy for "depth." Why not use the scholarship on a position of higher need this year?

 

[jakez4ut]

QB is the most important SINGLE position on the field. You can scheme around corner's strengths. If your QB flat sucks...your TEAM sucks. We have 4 true CB commits in this class and looking for a 5th...I don't see the dereliction of duty.

As far as your Bama backup QB question? I think the fact these highly rated QBs stayed 2-3 seasons the EXCEPTION...not the opposite! Most programs can't swing that. Barnett shocked them because they weren't used to it...the others transferred well after the time there was hope of winning the starting job...that's not the norm.

if anything, i'd take half a class of OL and DT/DE recruits at this point. i don't think we can have enough of those guys.

 

[butchna]

Again, this is the #4 guy for "depth." Why not use the scholarship on a position of higher need this year?

It's already been explained the possibility of him ending up THE backup. Since you project this coach's failure...you better be prepared. This isn't EA Sports.

 

[jakez4ut]

Again, this is the #4 guy for "depth." Why not use the scholarship on a position of higher need this year?

it's one spot, on a class that will likely have some more movement before signing day. and we do need to get a qb in this class. you may not like the qb, that's fine. but taking this guy, right now, is a bit of a luxury given who's already on the roster.

and adding some competition, while not upsetting the apple cart with those already here, is not exactly a terrible thing to do.

 

[butchna]

if anything, i'd take half a class of OL and DT/DE recruits at this point. i don't think we can have enough of those guys.

And you need ONE QB. :hi: