Why wasn't Cody flagged for removing his helmet?

#277
#277
I hate Bama as bad as any of you guys but if we had blocked the field goal and ripped off our helmets everybody would have been pissed if we got the penalty. The reason for the helmet rule is to keep from drawing attention to yourself. Cody was celebrating the biggest play of the game and should not have been flagged although it is a rule. The refs should never decide a game and that is what would have been the case had they thrown the flag.
 
#278
#278
Why didn't a UT player pick the ball up and take it to the house?? It was just laying there--the play was still alive!!!! :mad:
 
#279
#279
exotic_vols said:
I am disappointed, but already got over with. The final score was in the record book, and nothing can be and should be done.

By the way, what made you think that my boy Daniel "Cool-Dude" Lincoln would not kick the ball right into Cody's fat tits, for the third time, had we granted the chance to re-kick?
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Winner, winner chicken dinner!!!!
 
#280
#280
Unfortunately Lincoln missed three low. He probably would have missed four. It wasn't his night. Whether it effected the outcome of the game or not the flag should have been thrown. The refs than can sort out dead ball, live ball, no ball after the fact.
 
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jrobison said:
Sorry guys, but we look like a bunch of little b**ches. All this whining is pathetic. We didn't take care of business...end of story. We really need to stop and assess our attitude as fans if we're going to devote 20+ pages to whining about a no call that would almost never be made by any official in that situation. This isn't Gaffney in the endzone, fellas. We got that kick blocked. The whole thing hurts, but deal with it. This whole thread is embarrassing...wish we could just remove it. We should already be looking to next week. Instead, we're showing just how pathetic we can be when things don't go our way. Let's just suck it up and move on.
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Same here. We didn't block Cody TWICE. End of story
 
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#284
GoTide said:
It's obvious that UT is back. Great coaching on offense and defense to turn this team around from where it was earlier in the season. Here's a bit from si.com to explain the reason for a "no penalty".

Officials' blown call*doesn't matter as Alabama edges Tennessee - Andy Staples - SI.com
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Bet you the writer lives in Bham. The flag should have been thrown. Then let them sort it out. Result, no time left, no re-kick, or whatever.

Tks on congrats. Our boys dont' quit anymore but it's still a loss.
 
#285
#285
RollBamaRollBama said:
If everybody saw the game for what it was and not through orange colored shades they would be saying "wow what a great game" instead of crying about it
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I posted this earlier in this thread:

Billy Antrim said:
This thread is total B.S. I don't want to win a great game like this because the other team celebrated. They beat us fair and square. Period.
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If you actually read the posts in this thread, you would realize that we Vol fans are not ALL whining about the game. Don't characterize ALL of us as whiners!
 
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#286
hohenfelsvol said:
Bet you the writer lives in Bham. The flag should have been thrown. Then let them sort it out. Result, no time left, no re-kick, or whatever.

Tks on congrats. Our boys dont' quit anymore but it's still a loss.
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Since that's what the writer said I'm guessing you didn't read the article before commenting on it.
 
#290
#290
The helmet thing should have been called, but SEC refs are not about to call that against saban / bama at home. There would have been a riot.
 
#291
#291
Blown call doesn't matter as Alabama edges Tennessee

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Now, about that non-call on Cody. Yes, an SEC officiating crew screwed up again. This time, it didn't matter.

Howls erupted after Cody's goal block saved Alabama's bacon. Cody indeed removed his helmet while still in the field of play. That's a big no-no, and it usually merits a 15-yard penalty. But here's where the howlers are wrong. Even if officials had flagged Cody, Tennessee wouldn't have gotten another kick.

Because Alabama blocked and recovered the ball, Alabama had possession. The game can't end on a defensive penalty, but because of the possession change, Alabama wasn't on defense. We'll let SEC spokesman Charles Bloom take it from here.

"The foul for taking helmet off is a live ball foul treated as a dead-ball foul," Bloom wrote in an e-mail Saturday night. "That is, if it happens on a play where time does not expire then the penalty is enforced on the following play. However since the clock ran out on that play, then there is no next play, so there is no penalty to mark off."
Still, only a week after an Arkansas-Florida debacle that got an SEC crew suspended for three weeks, the conference could ill afford for another crew to miss such a clear call. It would have been nice if an official could have flagged Cody. Then referee Matt Austin could have explained to a national television audience why, despite the penalty on Cody, the game was still over.

Instead, the conspiracy theorists got more ammunition.

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BTW, time had expired BEFORE Cody removed his helmet. Game over. No penalty.

IMO, Bloom's explanation should have made that key point clear.

The writer sounds like an idiot for saying that an official should have flagged Cody so the Referee could explain on TV that that there was no reason to throw a flag.
 
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Tidal Surge said:
Blown call doesn't matter as Alabama edges Tennessee

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Now, about that non-call on Cody. Yes, an SEC officiating crew screwed up again. This time, it didn't matter.

Howls erupted after Cody's goal block saved Alabama's bacon. Cody indeed removed his helmet while still in the field of play. That's a big no-no, and it usually merits a 15-yard penalty. But here's where the howlers are wrong. Even if officials had flagged Cody, Tennessee wouldn't have gotten another kick.

Because Alabama blocked and recovered the ball, Alabama had possession. The game can't end on a defensive penalty, but because of the possession change, Alabama wasn't on defense. We'll let SEC spokesman Charles Bloom take it from here.

"The foul for taking helmet off is a live ball foul treated as a dead-ball foul," Bloom wrote in an e-mail Saturday night. "That is, if it happens on a play where time does not expire then the penalty is enforced on the following play. However since the clock ran out on that play, then there is no next play, so there is no penalty to mark off."

Still, only a week after an Arkansas-Florida debacle that got an SEC crew suspended for three weeks, the conference could ill afford for another crew to miss such a clear call. It would have been nice if an official could have flagged Cody. Then referee Matt Austin could have explained to a national television audience why, despite the penalty on Cody, the game was still over.

Instead, the conspiracy theorists got more ammunition.

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BTW, time had expired before Cody removed his helmet. Game over. No penalty. Bloom's explanation should have been more clear than the way he stated.
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If the play is still going on, it doesn't matter whether the clock is at zero or not. The question is whether the ball had been downed yet. The bogus holding call when we were driving was worse than the no call though. I wasn't aware that it was a penalty to get blown up.
 
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Tidal Surge said:
BTW, time had expired BEFORE Cody removed his helmet. Game over. No penalty. Bloom's explanation should have been more clear than the way he stated.
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Not exactly. The game wasn't over because the play was still going on. But the clock expired during the play and the penalty would have treated like a dead ball foul. So since Alabama recovered and there were no more plays to be run, there was no way to enforce the penalty anyway.
 
#294
#294
I find this thread to be one of the most embarassing as a long time Vol fan. Fact is we didn't do our job and keep them from blocking the kick. Then we totally quit on the play as the ball sat there behind the line of scrimmage for what seemed like an eternity. I was yelling at the tube to go pick it up and run it in. We had every opportunity to do that. Some helmet technicality is what I'd expect from other fans - not ours.
 
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ZZ13 said:
I find this thread to be one of the most embarassing as a long time Vol fan. Fact is we didn't do our job and keep them from blocking the kick. Then we totally quit on the play as the ball sat there behind the line of scrimmage for what seemed like an eternity. I was yelling at the tube to go pick it up and run it in. We had every opportunity to do that. Some helmet technicality is what I'd expect from other fans - not ours.
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People keep talking about how embarrassing this thread is, yet I really don't see very many people whining. People just saw Cody rip off his helmet during the play and wondered whether it shouldn't have been a penalty. Now we have clarification and the "controversy" is over.
 
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ZZ13 said:
I find this thread to be one of the most embarassing as a long time Vol fan. Fact is we didn't do our job and keep them from blocking the kick. Then we totally quit on the play as the ball sat there behind the line of scrimmage for what seemed like an eternity. I was yelling at the tube to go pick it up and run it in. We had every opportunity to do that. Some helmet technicality is what I'd expect from other fans - not ours.
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No doubt!... +1
 
#297
#297
IF we had recovered that ball and gotten another shot at that kick, it wouldn't be the way you'd want to win, but you talk about a game sticking in bammer's craw!!! :eek:lol:
 
#298
#298
Not sure if this has already been said but I'm watching the Lane Kiffin Show right now and this was the most emailed question of the week (the no call on Cody for removing his helmet). CLK said it's something they preach, practice and watch film on all the time to make sure our players never get flagged for it. He said it absolutely was a live ball and should've been a penalty.
 
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#299
clevelandvolfan said:
Do what we're supposed to in first 59:59 of game you dont have to worry about last second.
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QFT

We left 4 points on the field early when we settled for a FG on the 5 yard line instead of scoring a TD. Had we finished that drive, we may not have needed Lincoln to win it for us at the end.

Win as a team, lose as a team.
 
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