Why is there such a quarrel with Christianity today?

[n_huffhines]

Sounds like a good theory, but alcohol sales are up in Colorado since legalization.

Tourism is way up. Makes sense

 

[VolsSportsFan]

You guys should just go ahead and accept Mohammad as God's one true Prophet. You dudes are putting way too much work in reading all these books and articles to find reasons not to. Turn your life over to Allah, ask Allah to give you knowledge of the Quran before you read it and all will be well.


You are welcome, see you in eternity.

Fyp.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Tourism is way up. Makes sense

Tourism has been on a steady increase since several years before legalization. So yes, probably more alcohol consumed by tourist, but there is no indication that sales to residents have fallen off at all.

 

[hog88]

Do you have data to support that assertion or is that just what you think will happen?

If MJ is legalized and the power to maintain drug free workplaces is stripped from the employer he would be 100% correct.

Myself, I think we should legalize all drugs, handle distribution and tax like alcohol but allow employers to decide their own drug use policy.

 

[SWIL]

If MJ is legalized and the power to maintain drug free workplaces is stripped from the employer he would be 100% correct.

Myself, I think we should legalize all drugs, handle distribution and tax like alcohol but allow employers to decide their own drug use policy.

All of them? Even meth...crack?

 

[Septic]

If MJ is legalized and the power to maintain drug free workplaces is stripped from the employer he would be 100% correct.

Myself, I think we should legalize all drugs, handle distribution and tax like alcohol but allow employers to decide their own drug use policy.

Why would the power to maintain drug free work places be stripped? How would it be any different from alcohol or cigarettes?

Everything that we've ever been told regarding Marijuana has been twisted - All i'm arguing for is evidence, not assumptions.

I agree with every thing you believe regarding this, tax it.

 

[Septic]

All of them? Even meth...crack?

Why not?

I like to think of it as thinning the herd. If people are dumb enough to get twisted on meth. Great. Their genes will soon be removed from the pool.

 

[n_huffhines]

Tourism has been on a steady increase since several years before legalization. So yes, probably more alcohol consumed by tourist, but there is no indication that sales to residents have fallen off at all.

I didn't expect to have proof in numbers yet. That being said, I know this isn't scientific, but I drink 3x as much alcohol when I don't have green.

However, it’s far too soon to say how marijuana legalization has affected adults’ behavior when it comes to consuming intoxicating substances.

A University of Colorado-Denver economist who has studied how marijuana availability impacts alcohol consumption said the Colorado numbers don’t show much.

Legal Weed In Colorado Doesn’t Curb Alcohol Sales « CBS Denver

 

[hog88]

All of them? Even meth...crack?

Sure. I'm tired of seeing money, lives and effort pissed away on a failed policy. I don't think you would see much of any user increase with legalization.

 

[hog88]

Why would the power to maintain drug free work places be stripped? How would it be any different from alcohol or cigarettes?

Everything that we've ever been told regarding Marijuana has been twisted - All i'm arguing for is evidence, not assumptions.

I agree with every thing you believe regarding this, tax it.

I don't know, strange things happen and it could especially in states that are not right to work.

Like alcohol, a person shows up to work drunk in many states has to be afforded the opportunity to go to rehab can't just fire them.

 

[G0 BIG 0RANGE]

Doesn't the CoS believe in magic? That would appear to be a supernatural belief.

I'm not a member of the Church of Satan, I just read the book and I think they're aware that magic isn't actually real.

 

[MercyPercy]

Common sense septic.

Having owned my own business, I understand costs. I understand liability.

So you're down for banning fast food, right? A healthier population will reduce your health insurance costs. Same principle. Just wanted to make sure you were on board.

 

[FLVOL69]

I too own a business, understand costs and complexities of mitigating risk. I also understand that what your asserting is nothing more than a scare tactic used to illicit uncertainty with little to no evidence to support it.

Just like 'crime' was going to sky rocket after CO decriminalized THC - perhaps we should all wait to see before rushing to judgement. You may be right, but you might also be wrong.

Forget smoking and drinking, McDonalds & Burger King are right up there with what you should consider liability's to your health care costs. Should public policy be legislated to forbid the Whopper, Colt 45 and Kool's? Pointing at MJ and worrying about the cost of health care is as silly rearranging the chairs on the deck of the Titanic.

Selling depends undergarments and Chinese viagra out of your trunk doesn't qualify you as a businessman..😜

 

[1972 Grad]

Selling depends undergarments and Chinese viagra out of your trunk doesn't qualify you as a businessman..��

Somebody has to supply me and Gramps. Leave him alone.

 

[apevol]

Somebody has to supply me and Gramps. Leave him alone.

Lol

 

[1972 Grad]

Selling depends undergarments and Chinese viagra out of your trunk doesn't qualify you as a businessman..��

damn the pusher man.

 

[Septic]

Somebody has to supply me and Gramps. Leave him alone.

LOL, filling needs one box of black market Depends™ at a time.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

So this is a thread about legalizing drugs now? You hippies go cheer for drugs in your own thread!

 

[LouderVol]

I didn't expect to have proof in numbers yet. That being said, I know this isn't scientific, but I drink 3x as much alcohol when I don't have green.



Legal Weed In Colorado Doesn’t Curb Alcohol Sales « CBS Denver

2015 Final Legalization of Marijuana in Colorado the Impact

I haven't read it (182 pages) to know what it says but here is a, at least somewhat, official report on it. if anyone can mine this thing for real info I would be interested to hear it.

 

[Septic]

2015 Final Legalization of Marijuana in Colorado the Impact

I haven't read it (182 pages) to know what it says but here is a, at least somewhat, official report on it. if anyone can mine this thing for real info I would be interested to hear it.

Wow, I thumbed through that and was amazed at how slanted the "study" seemed.

I motored down to the citations and was surprised that the "data" collected was from other reporters studies and op-eds. Almost all of which were negative. Maybe the info is accurate but it wouldn't surprise me at all to find out that the "impact" article was sponsored and paid for by anti marijuana crowd like drug and alcohol manufacturers.

 

[IBlvNTmWrk]

Wow, I thumbed through that and was amazed at how slanted the "study" seemed.

I motored down to the citations and was surprised that the "data" collected was from other reporters studies and op-eds. Almost all of which were negative. Maybe the info is accurate but it wouldn't surprise me at all to find out that the "impact" article was sponsored and paid for by anti marijuana crowd like drug and alcohol manufacturers.

Wow, I "thumbed" through it as well and the only thing that seems slanted is your post above. All of the sources are readily listed at the end of each section for anyone who cares to reference them. Just because the report didn't reflect what you had hoped you seem to want to do your best to disregard it.

 

[Septic]

Wow, I "thumbed" through it as well and the only thing that seems slanted is your post above. All of the sources are readily listed at the end of each section for anyone who cares to reference them. Just because the report didn't reflect what you had hoped you seem to want to do your best to disregard it.

Just a few of the sources in order, stop me when you get to one that paints this as anything but negative. I'm not suggesting they are wrong but there does seem to be a pattern. And for the record, I don't have any skin in the game so what ever you believe I hoped the study reflected - you couldn't possibly know.




Matt Kroschel, CBS4 Mountain Newsroom, August 14, 2015, “Panhandling For Pot? Increase May Be Linked to recreational Marijuana,”

Bob McGovern, BostonHerald.com, June 12, 2015, “Colorado weed czar: Revenue up in smoke,”

The Gazette Op/Ed, March 22, 2015, “No tax windfall from medical, retail sales,”

Josh Barro, The New York Times , April 9, 2015, “Marijuana Taxes Won’t Save State Budgets,”

Marijuana Policy Group for the Colorado Department of Revenue, Executive Summary, “Market Size and Demand for Marijuana in Colorado,” July 2014

The Associated Press,The New York Times, December 24, 2014, “Denver Shelters Cite Legal Pot in Homeless Upswing,”

Tom McGhee,The Denver Post, July 26, 2014, “Legal pot blamed for some of influx of homeless in Denver this summer,”

Jace Larson, Click2Houston.com, September 22, 2014, “Legalized recreational marijuana use draws homeless Texans to Colorado,”

Sheriff Justin Smith, “Interesting Info for RMHIDTA,” e-mail message, August 20, 2015. lol wat

Trevor Hughes, USAToday , May 15, 2015, “Judge: Pot believed to have pesticide can be seized,”

Sarah Yang, Berkeley News, June 24, 2015, “Environment takes big hit from water-intensive marijuana cultivation,”

Barbara Hardt, May 14, 2015, The Mountain-Ear, “Side Effects of Legal Marijuana,”

Rick Carroll, The Aspen Times , June 9, 2015, “Residents” Marijuana stink means property values sink,”

 

[n_huffhines]

Wow, I thumbed through that and was amazed at how slanted the "study" seemed.

I motored down to the citations and was surprised that the "data" collected was from other reporters studies and op-eds. Almost all of which were negative. Maybe the info is accurate but it wouldn't surprise me at all to find out that the "impact" article was sponsored and paid for by anti marijuana crowd like drug and alcohol manufacturers.

There is a show on Netflix called High Profits. It's a documentary series about a marijuana dispensary in Breckenridge CO and all the opposition they face from all the businesses on main street, particularly the bars.

 

[LouderVol]

there is definitely some biased reporting in there "pot is bad" but there is also plenty of studies that back up some points with real research. "pot use in teenagers has lead to decreased memory"

This New Study is Bad News if You’re a Marijuana Supporter:
Researchers at Northwestern University released a study in the journal
Hippocampus
related to some findings regarding heavy use of marijuana on teenagers’ long-term memory. The study examined daily marijuana users who began at the age of 16 compared to the same age young adults who never used marijuana. Researchers used an MRI scan of the area of the brain responsible for long-term memory retention. Researchers also conducted MRI scans for subjects in their early 20’s who were two years removed from heavy marijuana use. The study showed an “oddly shaped hippocampus” in heavy marijuana users that accompanied long-term memory test scores 18 percent lower than those who had not used marijuana. One of the senior authors stated, “The memory processes that appear to be affected by cannabis are ones that we use every day to solve common problems and to sustain our relationships with friends and family.” This apparently was the first study that confirmed the relationship between heavy marijuana use and a misshapen hippocampus that lead to poor long-term memory function.
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seems like a real study there and not just slander, jmo, imo, 2 cents

 

[Septic]

There is a show on Netflix called High Profits. It's a documentary series about a marijuana dispensary in Breckenridge CO and all the opposition they face from all the businesses on main street, particularly the bars.

Breck's been prettly lax on mj for years. Long before the legalization, you just couldn't do it "on the mountain" or you'd risk losing your lift ticket.

There are also a ton of upstart microbreweries there - I could see why they'd have a beef with a competition for vices. After all, it's warmer to sit in the chalet on the 4 O'clock run than to have to walk through the snow to go drink a beer.