Why dont fans support this program no matter how bad the times get?

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PulaskiVolFan said:
I agree but at the time Kiffin was hired the only person in the athletic department and coaching staff with ties to Tennessee was Condredge. For about 10 years we decided to get rid of everything associated with Fulmer or Tennessee and it backfired miserably.
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Well so far Fulmer's hiring of Pruitt is backfiring. The only highlight being his retention of Barnes.
 
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dcibrando said:
we are all here because we love the Vols... but we also want more than what we are getting/seeing
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I would LIKE to think this true ... but when I see folks calling for more program disruption and upheaval, replacing guys who love the Vols with mercenaries who would be neutral or worse, and fanning flames of decommits ... then I am reminded that trolls are not just characters from fairy tales.
 
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Proud Army Wife said:
Well so far Fulmer's hiring of Pruitt is backfiring. The only highlight being his retention of Barnes.
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Sports at UT are on the rise outside of football. Both basketball teams, the baseball team, softball, golf, swimming and our Lady Vols soccer team are all championship contenders this season. Fulmer is doing fine, just has to get a handle on football.
 
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orangebloodgmc said:
I would LIKE to think this true ... but when I see folks calling for more program disruption and upheaval, replacing guys who love the Vols with mercenaries who would be neutral or worse, and fanning flames of decommits ... then I am reminded that trolls are not just characters from fairy tales.
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You think Jeremy Pruitt, who grew up in Alabama played for Alabama, and has previoulsy coached at Alabama "loves the Vols" or just loves the Vols giving him a hefty check every month?
 
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Johnnyreb#VFL said:
I hear you. Would you agree though that in a normal season, Tennessee would have been 6-6 this year? 5-7, 8-5, 6-6 first 3 seasons. I get the blowout losses are unacceptable, but if we look at it more holistically, the university is not on fire.

I’ve maintained give him one more year and if they win less than 6-7 games next year, I’d be first in line to fire him.
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I think if Jeremy Pruitt wanted to be in Knoxville. As simple as that....he would be
7-2 right now, including a win vs Oklahoma. OU because their defense still was bad early in the year, and Rattler would have struggled because he was still new. UGA beats us still, but by 3 points.
We've lost Kentucky and Arkansas. And it ain't because of Covid-19...
 
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Noggin said:
Why do so many fans have to be fair weather fans and only support a program when they are winning? I think if you are a VFL you will support this team and program no matter how many games they win.
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I’ve been a fan since I was 8 and my first year in Knoxville 1993, I’ve raised two sons who both bleed orange, although never seeing our team do more than the outback or tax slayer bowl. You can say fair weather or whatever makes you feel better about yourself, I’m tired of losing and worst of all being non competitive. The Tennessee my sons have had to endure isn’t what this university’s tradition was built on. This coach makes CDD and CBJ look proficient and effective. I as well as many others that have learned from the last 20 years and decided that it’s time for my school to get involved in college football again.
 
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BeardedVol said:
You think Jeremy Pruitt, who grew up in Alabama played for Alabama, and has previoulsy coached at Alabama "loves the Vols" or just loves the Vols giving him a hefty check every month?
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You left out that he played at MTSU before Alabama and that he grew up closer to Fulmer's hometown than Tuscaloosa but no surprise as you never have anything positive to say about the Vols, our program, coaches or players. Thinking Pruitt is tanking because he's an Alabama, wow, how do you come up with such thought provoking ideas.
 
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Proud Army Wife said:
Wouldn't it be nice if we found someone to cough up the money for an accomplished HC?
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Boyd found 9 others to come up with the cash to keep Barnes. If any of the big money boosters had faith that Fulmer would hire the right coach to replace Pruitt, I'd bet Boyd could talk them into parting with their money to buy him out.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Why do you feel entitled and that you deserve a better team to pull for? Unless you're a big time money donor they could care less what you think you deserve. Football is simply an activity for students that produces income for the University and unless UT goes belly up I'm betting that they continue the tradition of fielding a team regardless of what you and those like you feel you are entitled to.
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You do realize Football has a significant bearing on the community financially right? Actually you probably don't because you have no clue what in the hell you're talking about
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
You left out that he played at MTSU before Alabama and that he grew up closer to Fulmer's hometown than Tuscaloosa but no surprise as you never have anything positive to say about the Vols, our program, coaches or players. Thinking Pruitt is tanking because he's an Alabama, wow, how do you come up with such thought provoking ideas.
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Where did I say that Pruitt was doing any such thing? I simply asked a question.

As to Pruitt's college career, he only went to MTSU in the hopes that he'd get enough experience to be good enough for Alabama to take him.

Stop trying to play the revisionist-history game; you're bad at it.
 
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sjt18 said:
The other obvious group I didn't discuss is those who latch on to a player or coach and start to idolize them or make them the personification of the whole program. You see that with k-town and Pulaski concerning JG. An "attack" on JG alone makes you an "enemy of Voldom".

I simply wanted better QB play and was pretty well convinced from the last 3 years that it would not come from JG. That put those two guys on the warpath. There were even more like that concerning Jones though maybe not quite is "devoted".
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I think people state an opinion or have a personal affinity for players or coaches and that clouds their judgment. I like to look at the tape and let the facts decide.
For example JG has obvious weaknesses and they haven’t gotten better, in fact he has developed a habit for catastrophic turnovers.
As far as JTS and BM, JTS big arm and little football acumen, BM I see the potential but he is an enigma and is as scary as he is exciting. Football coaches look to the next game and the future. At this point let’s see what HB can do.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Where did I say that Pruitt was doing any such thing? I simply asked a question.

As to Pruitt's college career, he only went to MTSU in the hopes that he'd get enough experience to be good enough for Alabama to take him.

Stop trying to play the revisionist-history game; you're bad at it.
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How do you know why he went to MTSU? Were you there playing him in pickup basketball at the time?
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
You do realize Football has a significant bearing on the community financially right? Actually you probably don't because you have no clue what in the hell you're talking about
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You do realize that community has done fine financially the last 100 years because of the University right? Until that changes I'd say that you have no clue what you are talking about. You guys act like the 200 bucks you spend on the Vols matter at all.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
How do you know why he went to MTSU? Were you there playing him in pickup basketball at the time?
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Dang Pulaski, all that wailing and gnashing of your teeth earlier, has really gotten you off of your game.

Being from Alabama, Pruitt admits he proved himself at MTSU before moving on to the Crimson Tide...Pruitt said he was grateful that he was allowed to leave MTSU simply because he had always wanted to to play for the Crimson Tide.
"I wanted to go play at a school that I kind of had always dreamed of playing at," Pruitt said. "I was allowed to do that. They let me do it. I didn't sit out. I went and played."

UT Vols coach Jeremy Pruitt reacts to Nick Saban's comments on transfer
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Because you say so? Coaches are not interested in going somewhere just to get crapped on by an over zealous fanbase and to get 2nd guessed on by the Volunteer Couch Coaching Association over every little move. Rat poison was probably the correct term for it.
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That’s your opinion. We’ll just have to agree to disagree.
 
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Proud Army Wife said:
Wouldn't it be nice if we found someone to cough up the money for an accomplished HC?
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You're talking about $50 million when you add up the salary we'll have to pay Freeze, Kiffin, Stoops or Cower plus the $60 million hit the program is facing this season, I'm sure we'll have no problem getting it. :)
 
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BeardedVol said:
You think Jeremy Pruitt, who grew up in Alabama played for Alabama, and has previously coached at Alabama "loves the Vols" or just loves the Vols giving him a hefty check every month?
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I think Pruitt tried to do well, he just is in over his head when it comes to being head coach. I don't think he cares much for UT itself, and is now just here for the paycheck, as is rather evident from his attitude. To be fair, I remember Kiffin trying to make things more "USC-like" when he came here, so I guess he isn't the first to not embrace the tradition. If we were Vandy or UT Chattanooga, Pruitt might have been a great hire.

As far as people's frustrations.... I see the VOLS as a badly run business, that is driving away its customer base with poor decisions that lead to poor value for the buck. I think Fulmer got lucky with the Barnes situation. If there is truth to the rumors of the AD being in financial straits, COVID or not, that only further demonstrates how ill-equipped Fulmer is for the AD position. Fulmer got fired as a coach because he was behind the times from a philosophy standpoint and was not an innovator/could not come up with new wrinkles/schemes to try to keep up with the influx of talented coaches. Cutcliffe was the only person he trusted to change things up at all, so whenever he left you saw things go in the tank. Now with Fulmer back, we have a "philosophy" that looks an awful lot like the old one we had with Fulmer that got him fired. This adherence to this philosophy or mindset was even mentioned during the OC search 2 years ago as reasons why we passed on a lot of the hotter options. JG himself doesn't help things, but this requirement to do things a certain way just seems to be the basis for all these poor decisions and the teams' struggles. How can other teams have less highly recruited OL players yet look better? How can teams play freshman QBs and look better than our 5th yr senior? Why is this player with one of the worst ratings in not just the SEC, but the NCAA, the one who "gives us the best chance to win".
 
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