Why does ESPN hire such numskulls?

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VolunGator said:
Basically the average college football fan sees UT in the same light as VaTech, NCState, Ole Miss, Purdue, etc.
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You’re trying too hard. No one thinks that at all.
That said...Congratulations on being uniquely qualified to offer your opinions and your multiple pieces of paper from each institution . I, for one, am very impressed.
 
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VolinMichigan said:
I give this post all the eye rolls. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
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You really don't want me to post the factual numbers do you?

UT's record against UF since 1976 is 7 - 27.
UT has no (0) Heisman winners -- UF has 3
UT has 1 NC -- UF has 3
UT has won the SEC 4 times since 85 -- and two of those 85 and 90 came when the team with the best record UF was on probation.
If not for the probation effect UT would have 2 -- let that sink in -- SEC titles
Even during UT's best years UT could not defeat UF even with Peyton.

Go ahead and call me names. Volume and threats never win debates.
 
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They might’ve exaggerated a bit but the reality is we have played second fiddle to bama and Florida. But the great thing about college football is that if you’re at one of the major schools in a major conference (which we certainly are) you can get it right regardless of what program dominated you a couple of decades ago. Look at Clemson today. Pretty sure our history dwarfs theirs. But look at that program. A good coach and a few really special recruiting classes and they’re off. Once a program gets to the top like them it’s easy to stay there. Dabo could probably keep it rolling for years there if he chooses to like saban. Maybe we have the guy that’ll get us there. Maybe not
 
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DoyleMcOrange said:
ESPN is filled with idiots.

Consider their article about the 50 best programs in college football history:

"Since Neyland, the Volunteers have spent considerable time as a second fiddle behind Bryant at Alabama and Steve Spurrier at Florida, with the glorious exception of 1998."

1998?

Without mentioning to this idiot that Bryant wasn't coaching in 1998, I'd tell him that we won SEC titles in 1956, 1967, 1969, 1985, 1989, 1990, 1997, and also beat Alabama in 1953, 1955, 1957, 1958, 1959, 1960, 1965, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2004 and 2006.

So in summation to whichever imbecile wrote this 'article', we have beaten Alabama 31 times since Neyland was coach.

SO he can cram his "second fiddle since Neyland with the glorious exception of 1998" idiocy up his cramhole.

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Who is the idiot who wrote this article. He needs to be publicly shamed.
 
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It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, it's impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.
 
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VolunGator said:
Unfortunately the article is accurate.
Since 85 UT has won all of four conference titles. Of the four titles UT though crowned was not the best team. To the benefit of UT the Gators were on probation.

I wished it weren't true but UT has been mostly irrelevant in the modern era. I really don't see UT ever being consistently relevant again. I hope I'm wrong as I want UT to dominant for all the right reasons especially during my kids time on campus.

Basically the average college football fan sees UT in the same light as VaTech, NCState, Ole Miss, Purdue, etc.
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Good grief. You are making me miss Jaws, Gator 99, Larry Wight and Law Gator.

Are you including 85? If so it’s 5: 85, 89,90, 97 and 98. Not the best SEC team in those years? Who was? Who had a better SEC record that UT those years and who was better at the end of those years. Not your Gators. We beat the crap out of Florida in 1992 as well and you all slipped past us because of our meltdowns against USC and Ark
 
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VolunGator said:
Hate to break it to you but the average college football fan isn't 60 years old.
To the 20 to 45 year olds UT is positioned with the likes of the middle of the road P5 programs. Keep in mind a 45 year old only graduated college 22 years ago. To the average fan (age 20 to 45ish) UT falls squarely with KY, Purdue, NC State, etc.

Also UF football really launched in 1982 - 37 years ago. For those of working our way toward 60 the time frame feels most recent but to a 45 year-old, 37 years ago this fan was 8 years old. This person doesn't give a rats ass about football before this time frame.

I love UT and want nothing more than for UT to do well. But the average UT fan is just lost in the days past and just can't be objective.
Trying expressing an alternate opinion and you'll get your head chomped off.
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I didn't say the average college football fan was 60 years old. So, you aren't breaking anything to me.

I grew up loving college football and the history of college football, and I know many other fans with a sense of history. The ESPN series this thread references covers 150 years of college football. And my Vols have won dozens of SEC championships and bowl games, and multiple national championships.

Yet, here you are, a Gator fan on another team's board trying in vain to class the Vols "squarely with UK, Purdue, and NC State". None of those schools, and Florida neither, have the history and tradition of UT football. So, try selling that BS somewhere else. Let me break it to you. We don't care how many degrees you have from UT or how many checks you write there. (although I do wish I would have run across a Gator fan/UT student trying to spew Gator garbage while I was at UT!)
 
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VolunGator said:
You really don't want me to post the factual numbers do you?

UT's record against UF since 1976 is 7 - 27.
UT has no (0) Heisman winners -- UF has 3
UT has 1 NC -- UF has 3
UT has won the SEC 4 times since 85 -- and two of those 85 and 90 came when the team with the best record UF was on probation.
If not for the probation effect UT would have 2 -- let that sink in -- SEC titles
Even during UT's best years UT could not defeat UF even with Peyton.

Go ahead and call me names. Volume and threats never win debates.
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UF was completely irrelevant before Spurrier in the 90s. They were a historically crappy team that nobody cared about. Yes we lost to them a few times in the 70s and 80s but those games were flukes and upsets. I think our all time won lost record against FL was something like 15-5 before Spurrier and we still had an all time winning record after he retired. We have lost ground to Florida and everyone else over the past 15 years so it’s not just about Florida. We have lost a ton of games to Florida when we were clearly as talented or better than them due to horrible coaching. Florida has been on the map for 30 years and doesn’t have a long legacy. TN has been on the map for 100+ years. Florida was level off again when Florida State and Miami get back to normal.
 
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PhoenixAZVol said:
Good grief. You are making me miss Jaws, Gator 99, Larry Wight and Law Gator.

Are you including 85? If so it’s 5: 85, 89,90, 97 and 98. Not the best SEC team in those years? Who was? Who had a better SEC record that UT those years and who was better at the end of those years. Not your Gators. We beat the crap out of Florida in 1992 as well and you all slipped past us because of our meltdowns against USC and Ark
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He's trying to discredit our conference championship in 1990. We had a loss and a tie. Florida had one loss. However, Florida was on probation again in 1990, and their loss was to UT by the score of 45-3 in a game where we had a tight end throwing a TD pass.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
You’re trying too hard. No one thinks that at all.
That said...Congratulations on being uniquely qualified to offer your opinions and your multiple pieces of paper from each institution . I, for one, am very impressed.
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Serious college football fans, even youngsters, know that TN is a storied program. They can easily google historical records and I’m sure their parents and grandparents have passed on history to them. Florida has been pretty crappy the past 7-8 years as well with multiple losing seasons. You could make the same argument that 18 year olds think they are like Ole Miss and Kentucky.
 
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VolsSince78 said:
He's trying to discredit our conference championship in 1990. We had a loss and a tie. Florida had one loss. However, Florida was on probation again in 1990, and their loss was to UT by the score of 45-3 in a game where we had a tight end throwing a TD pass.
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Exactly. I guess he is wanting us to remind him of that 45-3 beatdown again.
 
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VolsSince78 said:
I didn't say the average college football fan was 60 years old. So, you aren't breaking anything to me.

I grew up loving college football and the history of college football, and I know many other fans with a sense of history. The ESPN series this thread references covers 150 years of college football. And my Vols have won dozens of SEC championships and bowl games, and multiple national championships.

Yet, here you are, a Gator fan on another team's board trying in vain to class the Vols "squarely with UK, Purdue, and NC State". None of those schools, and Florida neither, have the history and tradition of UT football. So, try selling that BS somewhere else. Let me break it to you. We don't care how many degrees you have from UT or how many checks you write there. (although I do wish I would have run across a Gator fan/UT student trying to spew Gator garbage while I was at UT!)
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Oh no not another dude spouting "I would have beat you up."
 
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VolunGator said:
You really don't want me to post the factual numbers do you?

UT's record against UF since 1976 is 7 - 27.
UT has no (0) Heisman winners -- UF has 3
UT has 1 NC -- UF has 3
UT has won the SEC 4 times since 85 -- and two of those 85 and 90 came when the team with the best record UF was on probation.
If not for the probation effect UT would have 2 -- let that sink in -- SEC titles
Even during UT's best years UT could not defeat UF even with Peyton.

Go ahead and call me names. Volume and threats never win debates.
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How many titles does FL have prior to 1976? Why are you using that year as your cut off?

What is Florida’s all time won lost record? How many bowls have they won all time? How many top 25 rankings do they have all time. How many Florida gators are in the college football hall of fame? You can’t just tear out a few pages you have to read the entire book. Who are Florida’s most well know NFL players outside of Emmitt Smith? Spurrier, weurful, and Tebow sucked in the NFL. How did ole Peyton do? Who replaced an incompetent Tebow in Denver after an 8-8 season and won 12 games the next year and a SB appearance the next year. Take that.
 
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PhoenixAZVol said:
Serious college football fans, even youngsters, know that TN is a storied program. They can easily google historical records and I’m sure their parents and grandparents have passed on history to them. Florida has been pretty crappy the past 7-8 years as well with multiple losing seasons. You could make the same argument that 18 year olds think they are like Ole Miss and Kentucky.
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Agreed "serious" college football fans. The average fan today doesn't give a crap about times past almost twice their age.
 
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PhoenixAZVol said:
How many titles does FL have prior to 1976? Why are you using that year as your cut off?

What is Florida’s all time won lost record? How many bowls have they won all time? How many top 25 rankings do they have all time. How many Florida gators are in the college football hall of fame? You can’t just tear out a few pages you have to read the entire book. Who are Florida’s most well know NFL players outside of Emmitt Smith? Spurrier, weurful, and Tebow sucked in the NFL. How did ole Peyton do? Who replaced an incompetent Tebow in Denver after an 8-8 season and won 12 games the next year and a SB appearance the next year. Take that.
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I'm going to bed soon. I'll statistically humiliate you tomorrow after golf.
 
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Tenn's 50 year record (not counting ties) is 400 wins and 206 loses. Argue away.............
I am in my 60s and I don't even think about TENN in Neyland's years anymore than I think about Battle's years. Is Army or Yale great programs because they were in the early and mid 1900s? Richard Petty won 200 races, but he raced 50-60 races a year in the early years of his career. Is he the greatest? Football is not the same since the early 90s. Tenn is a great program, not because of what they did, but because of who they are and the amount of fans they have. Wins are nice, they help recruit, but that doesn't tell the whole story.
 
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VolunGator said:
You guys are gluten for statical punishment. Shall I remind you of the pounding UF imposed?
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Outside of 94-97, every single game was close in the Spurrier era with a few TN beat downs in 90 and 92 and coming into your house and beating you as 17 point favorites in your house resulting in Spurrier quitting. Again for the last 10 years we have had horrible coaches and everyone had beaten us including Florida. You know as well as I do that it takes a pretty special coach to lose to the same team two times in three years on Hail Marys.
 
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