Why are we trying to be the opposite of Alabama?

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Orange and white have been Tennessee's official colors since 1891. Tennessee's orange and white colors were selected by Charles Moore, a member of the university's first football team, in 1891. They were later approved by a student body vote.

That’s far enough back for me. Tennessee is in the group of earliest football teams, and I am proud of that fact, and proud of our colors. The Volunteers is a name to be proud of because of how we got that name. Our stadium is one of the largest in college football, and it’s beautiful. Want to add a light show, fine. If a high school recruit wants to wear a black color, go to Vanderbilt. I don’t care whether the helmet is orange or white, I like the orange and white checkerboard end zones and crowd, but win or lose, stay true to our colors.

GO BIG ORANGE!
 
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Jeeze Louise everyone, he was trolling and you either keep feeding it or you are blind to the fact.
 
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Vollifer1949 said:
Alabama hired 4 coaches that couldn't cut it post stallings-pre saban. Maybe Tennessee is doing the same thing?[/QUOTE You forget the NCAA rocked Bama with sanctions after Stallings. I think they did a good job of keeping the program moving forward. Bama was hit almost to the magnitude of SMU but they survived and kinda stuck the middle finger at the NCAA. Like scheduling Hawaii there when they weren’t bowl eligible.
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Vollifer1949 said:
Alabama hired 4 coaches that couldn't cut it post stallings-pre saban. Maybe Tennessee is doing the same thing?
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Maybe they didn't fit in at Bama, but Shula was the only one that couldn't cut it by Bama standards. Perkins was maybe on the bubble, but did well after his first two years. He was a goner no matter what, being the first to follow Bear. Bama was a tough place to go post-Bear until Saban came along. Stallings kept the sharks at bay, but he had his fill and retired.

Saban, 14 years, .878 win %
Bear, 28 years, .808
Stallings, 7 years, .805
Curry, 3 years, .722
Perkins, 4 years, .667
Shula, 4 years, .531

They were never truly down and out except under Shula, and Perkins first 2 (Then he got it together). We beat them 9 in a row because we were better in most cases. Those that followed Stallings also had to deal with reduced scholarships due to infractions in '95 before Gene retired.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
I love tradition. Love it in sports, love it in the military, love it in society.

But blindly following tradition is how you die.

Tradition can be a cavalry charge against tanks. It can be a Sopwith Camel against an F-22. It can be the single wing against more modern formations. It can be refusing to incorporate a passing game because the forward pass is just a gimmick.

Tradition when it makes sense is great. Innovation and adjusting to the circumstances when those make more sense are also great.

Forget about following Bama. Screw Bama.

Let's give Coach Heupel and AD White some room to work, shall we? They might just find a new path, a Tennessee path, that leads to championships.

Go Vols!
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The only tradition we should care about is winning. Win and everything else takes care of itself.
 
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GVF said:
Maybe they didn't fit in at Bama, but Shula was the only one that couldn't cut it by Bama standards. Perkins was maybe on the bubble, but did well after his first two years. He was a goner no matter what, being the first to follow Bear. Bama was a tough place to go post-Bear until Saban came along. Stallings kept the sharks at bay, but he had his fill and retired.

Saban, 14 years, .878 win %
Bear, 28 years, .808
Stallings, 7 years, .805
Curry, 3 years, .722
Perkins, 4 years, .667
Shula, 4 years, .531

They were never truly down and out except under Shula, and Perkins first 2 (Then he got it together). We beat them 9 in a row because we were better in most cases. Those that followed Stallings also had to deal with reduced scholarships due to infractions in '95 before Gene retired.
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There are some coaches missing from this list that would say otherwise Dubose and Franchonie
 
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GVF said:
Maybe they didn't fit in at Bama, but Shula was the only one that couldn't cut it by Bama standards. Perkins was maybe on the bubble, but did well after his first two years. He was a goner no matter what, being the first to follow Bear. Bama was a tough place to go post-Bear until Saban came along. Stallings kept the sharks at bay, but he had his fill and retired.

Saban, 14 years, .878 win %
Bear, 28 years, .808
Stallings, 7 years, .805
Curry, 3 years, .722
Perkins, 4 years, .667
Shula, 4 years, .531

They were never truly down and out except under Shula, and Perkins first 2 (Then he got it together). We beat them 9 in a row because we were better in most cases. Those that followed Stallings also had to deal with reduced scholarships due to infractions in '95 before Gene retired.
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That's fine. I wouldn't put Fulmer in Bryant's catagory. I used Stallings because he was the coach that won Alabama's last NC prior to Saban. They had four coaches in between Stallings and Saban. Tennessee has had for coaches between Fulmer and Heuple. I was mostly being a smart@$$ to the original rant.
 
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KnoxvilleVol13 said:
Tennessee used to be a traditional SEC power in college football. We wore our historic home and away uniforms. We never thought gimmicks and alternate uniforms were cool. When Alabama went through their bad years in the 90s/early 2000s, they didn't start checkering the stadium and wearing corny alternate uniforms. They stayed true to their tradition and never felt the need to try to do the lame stuff everybody else in cfb did to try to be relevant. UT today seems to think wearing smokey grey uniforms and black uniforms this year isn't a slap in the face of what real Tennessee football is and stands for. We hire coaches who cant recruit in the SEC and play the opposite brand of football that wins in the SEC. I hate Alabama and hope they lose every game they play but UT throwing away all tradition to be the opposite of Alabama doesnt seem like a way to not get the breaks beat off of you year in and year out. Why Tennessee fans continue to embrace being a corny football program is mind boggling. Pretending hiring coaches that get SMOKED in recruiting and play a gimmicky brand of football translating into catching the big boys in the SEC looks stupid and we pretend it doesnt every year. Its embarrassing to the tradition of the program on all levels.
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Alt uniforms weren't a thing anywhere in this universe when bammer was down. It got started at Oregon circa 2004, and was spreading to other schools about the time Saban took the bammer job in 2007, but hadn't touched the SEC yet.

Your rant is way off target. UT's issues are not that we occasionally wear other uniforms, as 95% of D1 teams do.

If you really think thats what our problem is, you are beyond redemption and should never be allowed to post again. (smh)
 
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Teezy said:
Uniforms aren’t the reason we lost.. just wanted to point that out there. We’ve made some bad hires and had bad leadership for a long time. But blaming uniforms and “ruining tradition” doesn’t have anything to do with the sh*t show we’ve put on the field these past several years. Just my two cents.
We wore Smokey grey uniforms how many times? Like 2.. maybe 3? And we’re still hearing about it till this day. Sheesh.
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We beat Florida and Georgia in the Smokies and 1-0 in black jersey. It's a recruiting tool that's all just another tool in the old tool bag.
 
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KnoxvilleVol13 said:
Tennessee used to be a traditional SEC power in college football. We wore our historic home and away uniforms. We never thought gimmicks and alternate uniforms were cool. When Alabama went through their bad years in the 90s/early 2000s, they didn't start checkering the stadium and wearing corny alternate uniforms. They stayed true to their tradition and never felt the need to try to do the lame stuff everybody else in cfb did to try to be relevant. UT today seems to think wearing smokey grey uniforms and black uniforms this year isn't a slap in the face of what real Tennessee football is and stands for. We hire coaches who cant recruit in the SEC and play the opposite brand of football that wins in the SEC. I hate Alabama and hope they lose every game they play but UT throwing away all tradition to be the opposite of Alabama doesnt seem like a way to not get the breaks beat off of you year in and year out. Why Tennessee fans continue to embrace being a corny football program is mind boggling. Pretending hiring coaches that get SMOKED in recruiting and play a gimmicky brand of football translating into catching the big boys in the SEC looks stupid and we pretend it doesnt every year. Its embarrassing to the tradition of the program on all levels.
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I see the word "cerebral" used frequently in some of our forums,, but believe me, you are not.
 
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