Why are we trying to be the opposite of Alabama?

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KnoxvilleVol13 said:
I agree. Firing a hall of fame coach with the best winning % in college football the year after we won the east vs Tim Tebow/urban Meyer probably didn't turn out so great for us. Thats why were in this mess. Our fans doing the "fire fulmer" stuff look real smart rn dont they.
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I didn't see this post before my last reply........ Now I know you would want that idiot gump to still be Tennessee's coach. Really Smdh now!!!!!!
 
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RhodesVol said:
I think a problem is that the loaded SEC staff didn't appear to have the ability to coach or motivate their players very well. Pruitt is an anomaly to me, because I genuinely don't understand why he was so bad.

2019, I thought he had really turned a corner after a completely abysmal start losing to Georgia State (probably he worst loss in program history), and then a BYU team that we should have beaten.

2020 was a weird year, and I know that the wheels fell off, but the aspects of the season that bothered me the most was what appeared to be the staff's refusal to make a change at QB. Even if what was behind JG either (a) wasn't ready, or (b) wasn't very good, they doomed themselves by continuing to trot him out there week after week. Maybe it shouldn't be the case, but the fans are the ultimate decision makers. Once the fans have turned on you, there's not much you can do, and Pruitt and his staff just seemed adamant that they weren't going to try and appease the fansbase at all. I know we can be irrational, but not wanting to watch JG and getting irate when they seemed to have no answer for the QB situation was a pretty understandable response.

I don't know that this staff will be able to recruit or coach well enough to get us back. I don't love the thought of quick 3 and outs leading to a depleted defense, and I fully believe we will have significant growing pains this season. Still, I'm just going to choose to be optimistic until they prove to me that I ought not be. For now, we really don't know.
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That loaded SEC staff completely lost the team, from halftime of the Georgia game on. Someday there will be books written about what transpired within the program last season.
 
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mickeyvol said:
That loaded SEC staff completely lost the team, from halftime of the Georgia game on. Someday there will be books written about what transpired within the program last season.
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I think they quit when JG threw the pick coming out of half-time and quit when he threw 2 to start the Kentucky game too. To be fair you can put that on Pruitt but Somebody has to be honest on how bad JG really was. Pruitt had 2 years to fix that problem and didn't tho.
 
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I will say Pruitt lost his team , that was obvious. The guy has some kind of Nick Saban light complex that is nothing more than a fantasy.
 
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KnoxvilleVol13 said:
Yes. We fired a loaded SEC staff who could recruit their ass off and knew the SEC and its recruiting ground like the back of their hand. To hire a DC who coached on the worst defense in the history of the Penn State. To hire a HC who made UCF worse every year and has shown zero ability to recruit in even the top half of the SEC. Were battling Vandy/kentucky in Recruiting. Pruitt inherited a 4 win roster with the worst qb in the history of the program. If you say he had 2 years to find a qb thats fair, but we all knew that would take 5/6 years to turn around and when it didn't happen in 3 we reacted like children and hired a worse staff and have a worse roster/recruiters bc of it. Well be ready to fire JH by the end of this year and well do the whole stupid chirade again and set our program back another 10 years. But yes we fired the coach trying to be like bama. God forbid that ever happens lol. At least we can still checker the stadium and lose by 40 to real SEC schools.
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Yep, that previous staff really got the job done.👌
 
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Hell, we tried being like 'bama and hired the Gump. How'd that work out? At this point, I'll take being anything other than being like gump nation.
 
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TJSVOLS said:
Yep, that previous staff really got the job done.👌
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That staff not getting the job done with the worst qb in school history doesnt make our current staff world beaters. Pruitts staff didn't get the job done and we hired a worse staff with worse recruiters and now have an even worse roster bc of it. Both can be true. I know its hard to comprehend bc we hate Pruitt so much.
 
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KnoxvilleVol13 said:
That staff not getting the job done with the worst qb in school history doesnt make our current staff world beaters. Pruitts staff didn't get the job done and we hired a worse staff with worse recruiters and now have an even worse roster bc of it. Both can be true. I know its hard to comprehend bc we hate Pruitt so much.
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I don’t hate Pruitt but he was a terrible head coach, and he is the one who keep putting that terrible Qb back out there every Saturday.and you have absolutely no idea what is going to happen with the current staff. And in an earlier post you said they were great at recruiting then later criticized them and said they recruited big east players. As some other people have said you are either an idiot or a troll. Most likely both…
 
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TJSVOLS said:
I don’t hate Pruitt but he was a terrible head coach, and he is the one who keep putting that terrible Qb back out there every Saturday.and you have absolutely no idea what is going to happen with the current staff. And in an earlier post you said they were great at recruiting then later criticized them and said they recruited big east players. As some other people have said you are either an idiot or a troll. Most likely both…
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I said Pruitt and his staff are great recruiters. Jh and his staff are full of non sec big east recruiters. Nobody wanted JH and Nobody wanted the DC from penn state who plays a soft zone bend but dont break 7 yards off the reciever big east defense. I would have given Pruitt one more year to recruit and play without JG at qb. I also think Chaney was a past his time hire. I think we panicked, depleted our roster, hired a hc nobody else wanted and a dc nobody would even consider. None of that means I think Pruitt was a great coach. I think we got emotional and panicked. Thats how you end up with big buyout, bad rosters and a staff full of coaches who cant recruit in the sec. I dont get whats so hard to understand.
 
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KnoxvilleVol13 said:
Tennessee used to be a traditional SEC power in college football. We wore our historic home and away uniforms. We never thought gimmicks and alternate uniforms were cool. When Alabama went through their bad years in the 90s/early 2000s, they didn't start checkering the stadium and wearing corny alternate uniforms. They stayed true to their tradition and never felt the need to try to do the lame stuff everybody else in cfb did to try to be relevant. UT today seems to think wearing smokey grey uniforms and black uniforms this year isn't a slap in the face of what real Tennessee football is and stands for. We hire coaches who cant recruit in the SEC and play the opposite brand of football that wins in the SEC. I hate Alabama and hope they lose every game they play but UT throwing away all tradition to be the opposite of Alabama doesnt seem like a way to not get the breaks beat off of you year in and year out. Why Tennessee fans continue to embrace being a corny football program is mind boggling. Pretending hiring coaches that get SMOKED in recruiting and play a gimmicky brand of football translating into catching the big boys in the SEC looks stupid and we pretend it doesnt every year. Its embarrassing to the tradition of the program on all levels.
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I don’t mind Tennessee being state of the art which is their goal. I just want them to do it and not like like the developers of all the boring neighborhoods in the burbs of Knoxville built it. I think vision is coming to Knoxville and it is bleeding into what we are trying to do with football and now is the time for that. Back then, it made sense to stick.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
I love tradition. Love it in sports, love it in the military, love it in society.

But blindly following tradition is how you die.

Tradition can be a cavalry charge against tanks. It can be a Sopwith Camel against an F-22. It can be the single wing against more modern formations. It can be refusing to incorporate a passing game because the forward pass is just a gimmick.

Tradition when it makes sense is great. Innovation and adjusting to the circumstances when those make more sense are also great.

Forget about following Bama. Screw Bama.

Let's give Coach Heupel and AD White some room to work, shall we? They might just find a new path, a Tennessee path, that leads to championships.

Go Vols!
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I love tradition and pageantry as much as the next guy, but I can’t wrap my head around The fact that someone would legit get angry or upset because the athletic department installed lights in the stadium or the thought that the football team may wear an orange helmet.
GBO!!
 
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cobbwebb0710 said:
I love tradition and pageantry as much as the next guy, but I can’t wrap my head around The fact that someone would legit get angry or upset because the athletic department installed lights in the stadium or the thought that the football team may wear an orange helmet.
GBO!!
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I think the lights are cool even tho ours look like a knockoff version of Alabama's. We shoulda got the lights 2 years ago when the big boys in the sec got them or not at all imo. Why do it 2 years after uga/bama and pretend its exciting?
 
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mickeyvol said:
That loaded SEC staff completely lost the team, from halftime of the Georgia game on. Someday there will be books written about what transpired within the program last season.
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I’ve already started to hear some of it coming out. That Georgia game...
Halftime of the Georgia game is when Pruitt and his staff lost the team.
GBO!!
 
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KnoxvilleVol13 said:
I said Pruitt and his staff are great recruiters. Jh and his staff are full of non sec big east recruiters. Nobody wanted JH and Nobody wanted the DC from penn state who plays a soft zone bend but dont break 7 yards off the reciever big east defense. I would have given Pruitt one more year to recruit and play without JG at qb. I also think Chaney was a past his time hire. I think we panicked, depleted our roster, hired a hc nobody else wanted and a dc nobody would even consider. None of that means I think Pruitt was a great coach. I think we got emotional and panicked. Thats how you end up with big buyout, bad rosters and a staff full of coaches who cant recruit in the sec. I dont get whats so hard to understand.
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have you ever even watched football?
 
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Tennessee wore black an gray up until nearly 1930 at which point they went to orange, The gray was a part of the uniform up until the 70's . The numbers were trimmed in Smokey gray and the face masks were gray . Majors took a whopping and decided to do away with the gray. The gray is an official university color. So as far as history ...one might ask why we have not been wearing black and gray all along and how we adopted the untraditional color of the daisies on the hill? Its all about perspective
 
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kptvol1 said:
I don’t care if they trot out like the lingerie bowl as long as they’re winning. Winning is a Tennessee tradition and that tradition has been abandoned.
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I feel ya bud, but now you’ve got me trying to picture in my head, how Cade Mays or Elijah Simmons would look, taking the field in lingerie...😬
I’m not very happy with you for putting those images in my brain.
GBO!!
 
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OrangeTsar said:
By the way, the ACTUAL opposite of Bama would be „educated, well mannered, hygienic, cultured, and of sound mind.“. Just thought that needed clearing up
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Marrying someone who is not your uncles kid would be at the top of my list, just ahead of hygienic.😎
GBO!!
 
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We have the worst DC in the sec and our fans say "well our offense will be fun to watch" thats where were at rn. Just playing stupid as usual
 
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