Why are we trying to be the opposite of Alabama?

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Bama's worn white helmets off and on. Sometimes a stripe and sometimes no. And had some houndstooth on their jerseys.

Idk as long as it's player driven.
 
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KnoxvilleVol13 said:
Tennessee used to be a traditional SEC power in college football. We wore our historic home and away uniforms. We never thought gimmicks and alternate uniforms were cool. When Alabama went through their bad years in the 90s/early 2000s, they didn't start checkering the stadium and wearing corny alternate uniforms. They stayed true to their tradition and never felt the need to try to do the lame stuff everybody else in cfb did to try to be relevant. UT today seems to think wearing smokey grey uniforms and black uniforms this year isn't a slap in the face of what real Tennessee football is and stands for. We hire coaches who cant recruit in the SEC and play the opposite brand of football that wins in the SEC. I hate Alabama and hope they lose every game they play but UT throwing away all tradition to be the opposite of Alabama doesnt seem like a way to not get the breaks beat off of you year in and year out. Why Tennessee fans continue to embrace being a corny football program is mind boggling. Pretending hiring coaches that get SMOKED in recruiting and play a gimmicky brand of football translating into catching the big boys in the SEC looks stupid and we pretend it doesnt every year. Its embarrassing to the tradition of the program on all levels.
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Urban Meyer have wasn’t Alabama and he dominated them often.
 
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CaliVol2009 said:
Lol, we are not firing Heupal after the season. Why don’t you calm down and see how we actually do first.
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If UGA, Bama, Florida all have better coaching staffs and drag us in recruiting. Whats there to be hopeful about. Fulmer won bc he had a great sec staff and out recruited everybody. That power T means nothing if the teams in your conference out recruit you and out coach you. Its pretty simple. Our fans seem to think having orange jerseys make our players better than they are and coaches better than they are. I dont get the logic. And didn't get the logic with the last 4 coaches either. Im obviously missing something magical or spiritual. The definition of insanity is our football program. But our fans play stupid everytime we hire/fire a new guy.
 
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KnoxvilleVol13 said:
Everybody thats good cheats. Fulmer was the king of cheating and hes my favorite coach of all time. Its how you win in this league. Pretending otherwise is pretty ignorant to say the least. Unless you think clemson, UGA, ohio state etc isn't cheating. Our fans would be dumb enough to believe that tho
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Saying everybody cheats is pretty ignorant. A common belief among the Gumps.
 
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Somewhere there is a person who became a fan 15-50 years before you and they hate the newer traditions that you love. Should the traditions have stayed the same for them, then, or should they just stay the same for you and what you like?

Where do you think the traditions came from that you saw in your very first Tennessee game? How are traditions formed? By doing new things and evolving. Sometimes things stick, sometimes they don't.

Tennessee Football has been around a lot longer than any of us. If UT stuck with the very same principles they had in there very first game, we would have basically 0 of the traditions that we all know today.

Traditions aren't going to stay exactly the same as when you first became a fan. They are going to continue to change and evolve how they have ALWAYS done, long before you and long after.
 
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Who care what bum **** bama does? Not me. UT Vols are the best, even if things have been down lately.
 
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sjt18 said:
What an incredibly stupid rant. There’s nothing gaudy about the gray uniforms or anything offensive to what UT football is all about. Bet this guy needed counsewhen they started outlining the numbers.
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Speaking of outlining numbers. Why did Tennessee go away from the classic white jerseys with the black outline and trade them for the big ugly numbers and ugly orange collar. We have to be the only school in America who's practice uniforms look better than the gameday unis.
 
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KnoxvilleVol13 said:
Speaking of outlining numbers. Why did Tennessee go away from the classic white jerseys with the black outline and trade them for the big ugly numbers and ugly orange collar. We have to be the only school in America who's practice uniforms look better than the gameday unis.
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If you really care about uniforms that much then be a fan of the band
 
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sjt18 said:
So insecure that they get upset over a uniform change?
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Im an old school vol fan. I dont think bama or TN should ever change uniforms. thats for programs with no tradition. Thats one reason to respect Alabama. When the whole football world starts doing the same stuff, they stayed true to tradition. I respect that. But im in the minority I know.
 
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I will concur that I miss the black outlines on the white jerseys. Just my two cents. I don't love the orange collar, but it's whatever.

If they added those black outlines, though. Oh man, I'd be happy.

Then again, I wouldn't mind if the numbers were big enough to read from the moon again. Some of those 90's uniforms were magnificent.
 
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RhodesVol said:
I will concur that I miss the black outlines on the white jerseys. Just my two cents. I don't love the orange collar, but it's whatever.

If they added those black outlines, though. Oh man, I'd be happy.

Then again, I wouldn't mind if the numbers were big enough to read from the moon again. Some of those 90's uniforms were magnificent.
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They were indeed iconic. Those white uniforms were the best in CFB IMO
 
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Yeah because trying to be Alabama light really worked for Pruitt. No one else is Nick Saben. Uniforms and traditions matter very little compared to actually hiring a good football coach. That's all we need to do and we will be alright.
 
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The only way to differentiate your program from Alabama is to start beating their butts on the field.

I’m looking in the mirror when I say this as my team has a chance on September 18th.

Somebody has to beat them off the front page. Somebody has to beat Saban into retirement. Somebody has to beat them back into the middle of the pack in the SEC.
 
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KnoxvilleVol13 said:
Yes. We fired a loaded SEC staff who could recruit their ass off and knew the SEC and its recruiting ground like the back of their hand. To hire a DC who coached on the worst defense in the history of the Penn State. To hire a HC who made UCF worse every year and has shown zero ability to recruit in even the top half of the SEC. Were battling Vandy/kentucky in Recruiting. Pruitt inherited a 4 win roster with the worst qb in the history of the program. If you say he had 2 years to find a qb thats fair, but we all knew that would take 5/6 years to turn around and when it didn't happen in 3 we reacted like children and hired a worse staff and have a worse roster/recruiters bc of it. Well be ready to fire JH by the end of this year and well do the whole stupid chirade again and set our program back another 10 years. But yes we fired the coach trying to be like bama. God forbid that ever happens lol. At least we can still checker the stadium and lose by 40 to real SEC schools.
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I think a problem is that the loaded SEC staff didn't appear to have the ability to coach or motivate their players very well. Pruitt is an anomaly to me, because I genuinely don't understand why he was so bad.

2019, I thought he had really turned a corner after a completely abysmal start losing to Georgia State (probably he worst loss in program history), and then a BYU team that we should have beaten.

2020 was a weird year, and I know that the wheels fell off, but the aspects of the season that bothered me the most was what appeared to be the staff's refusal to make a change at QB. Even if what was behind JG either (a) wasn't ready, or (b) wasn't very good, they doomed themselves by continuing to trot him out there week after week. Maybe it shouldn't be the case, but the fans are the ultimate decision makers. Once the fans have turned on you, there's not much you can do, and Pruitt and his staff just seemed adamant that they weren't going to try and appease the fansbase at all. I know we can be irrational, but not wanting to watch JG and getting irate when they seemed to have no answer for the QB situation was a pretty understandable response.

I don't know that this staff will be able to recruit or coach well enough to get us back. I don't love the thought of quick 3 and outs leading to a depleted defense, and I fully believe we will have significant growing pains this season. Still, I'm just going to choose to be optimistic until they prove to me that I ought not be. For now, we really don't know.
 
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RhodesVol said:
I think a problem is that the loaded SEC staff didn't appear to have the ability to coach or motivate their players very well. Pruitt is an anomaly to me, because I genuinely don't understand why he was so bad.

2019, I thought he had really turned a corner after a completely abysmal start losing to Georgia State (probably he worst loss in program history), and then a BYU team that we should have beaten.

2020 was a weird year, and I know that the wheels fell off, but the aspects of the season that bothered me the most was what appeared to be the staff's refusal to make a change at QB. Even if what was behind JG either (a) wasn't ready, or (b) wasn't very good, they doomed themselves by continuing to trot him out there week after week. Maybe it shouldn't be the case, but the fans are the ultimate decision makers. Once the fans have turned on you, there's not much you can do, and Pruitt and his staff just seemed adamant that they weren't going to try and appease the fansbase at all. I know we can be irrational, but not wanting to watch JG and getting irate when they seemed to have no answer for the QB situation was a pretty understandable response.

I don't know that this staff will be able to recruit or coach well enough to get us back. I don't love the thought of quick 3 and outs leading to a depleted defense, and I fully believe we will have significant growing pains this season. Still, I'm just going to choose to be optimistic until they prove to me that I ought not be. For now, we really don't know.
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I totally agree. I think having the worst qb in the history of the program made everybody look worse. But Pruitt had 2 years to fix that position. At the same time if finding a good qb was easy 95% of teams wouldn't be looking for one. I think he would have been a good coach with an average qb but you never know. I would have kept him a year or 2 more just to build my roster up to hand off to a new coach if we had to go that route. I dont think blowing up our roster to stick it to a coach we didn't like was the best strategy at all but well see.
 
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