Why Are Democrats Trying to Destroy Our Country?

[Obsessed]

Support for national popular vote is already over 50 percent and only heading in one direction.

And when Trump wins both the EC and popular vote, what will you be crying for then?

Going to a popular vote will only change the way the candidates campaign.

 

[Burger]

I actually see the appeal of people like Bernie Sanders. We live in a society where everybody is a number, and we have a culture that promotes selfishness. This extends to major corporations as well as the college education system. If you have seen college tuition lately, you'd see that the millennials are getting saddled with massive amounts of debt. They are trapped by the Federal Government and the Education system that are causing the jacking up of education prices. We have generations now that are losing its person to person humanity that is being lost because of modern technology and cell phone addiction. We are losing our decency because of the pungent loudness of the extremes of both sides that people are forgetting that the people on the internet are human also. It's showing itself by the emotional distance in society today.

This is all resulting in a rising suicide rate, mass shootings, and a perpetual emptiness in the lives of so many. This is causing the segmenting of different populations where we forget that we have commonalities as people. Bernie Sanders and the like are a product of the perpetual hopelessness of the younger generations.

 

[Septic]

And when Trump wins both the EC and popular vote, what will you be crying for then?

Going to a popular vote will only change the way the candidates campaign.

You mean they'd have to start paying attention to everyone? That doesn't sound terrible at all.

California Republican's (who get zero EC votes now) would by percentage of the CA population have more EC votes than more than half the states. They're completely ignored.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

I would never entertain 86ing the EC but it is worth noting that there are about 300,000,000 more people here than when it was established.

 

[McDad]

I would never entertain 86ing the EC but it is worth noting that there are about 300,000,000 more people here than when it was established.

would you mind expounding on why it is noteworthy?

 

[DinkinFlicka]

would you mind expounding on why it is noteworthy?

An exponential increase in numbers for anything should absolutely precipitate some degree of change and alteration.

 

[hog88]

An exponential increase in numbers for anything should absolutely precipitate some degree of change and alteration.

Or make it even more important that it’s left intact.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Or make it even more important that it’s left intact.

Would you run a company of 16 employees the same way you would run one of 1600?

 

[ETV]

Preventing grifting seems like a legit game plan. You really think turtle boy in the senate is going to even bring healthcare for all to the floor?

Sounds like a repeat out of Harry Reid's playbook when Republican measures were in play.

 

[luthervol]

would you mind expounding on why it is noteworthy?

The founding fathers were largely concerned with the unknown.....how would westward expansion play out, how many new states would be added, and how large would the new states be.
These are no longer unknowns.

 

[Fun coupon VOL]

 

[hog88]

Would you run a company of 16 employees the same way you would run one of 1600?

Mission statement wouldn't change.

 

[hog88]

The founding fathers were largely concerned with the unknown.....how would westward expansion play out, how many new states would be added, and how large would the new states be.
These are no longer unknowns.

That had absolutely nothing to do with their creation of the EC. They understood the tyranny of pure democracy and knew it wasn't sustainable.

 

[volfanhill]

There should be run off elections when we eventually do go to popular vote.

We will both be long dead before we go to a popular vote. Thank God.

 

[McDad]

Would you run a company of 16 employees the same way you would run one of 1600?

if the company of 16 was successful, yes. the administration and structure of the day to day operations may change, but the fundamentals would not.

 

[tvolsfan]

We will both be long dead before we go to a popular vote. Thank God.

You may be. I doubt I will be.

 

[tvolsfan]

That had absolutely nothing to do with their creation of the EC. They understood the tyranny of pure democracy and knew it wasn't sustainable.

Right, that’s why every other democracy and every state government has collapsed.

 

[hog88]

Right, that’s why every other democracy and every state government has collapsed.

Please point to a pure democracy.

 

[tvolsfan]

Please point to a pure democracy.

I was 100 percent sure this response was coming.

 

[hog88]

I was 100 percent sure this response was coming.

Then you should have had an answer.

 

[tvolsfan]

Then you should have had an answer.

Point to me the other countries that use a model like our electoral college, and you’ll have a point.

 

[hog88]

Point to me the other countries that use a model like our electoral college, and you’ll have a point.

France for one.

 

[tvolsfan]

France for one.

France elects their president by popular vote. Try again.

 

[tumscalcium]

Point to me the other countries that use a model like our electoral college, and you’ll have a point.

F other countries. Why do you want us to be like other countries?

 

[lawgator1]

The electoral college made sense 250 years ago. Now it is just an antiquated means for a minority of the country to hang onto power.